How to deal with tailgaters?

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Ultima

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Ultima


Wouldn't it be the fault of the guy who slammed on the brakes? I realize it's word against word but what if the tailgater has a friend in the car and the guy slamming the brakes doesn't? Then they tell the police the guy just slammed on the brakes for no reason at all and it's 2 vs 1.

? the way the law works is the person in front is allowed to stop as quickly as possible for whatever reason....at least here.

Thinking otherwise you end up in reasons why to go against that would be bad (hmm I think I see an old lady in the road with a walker and Jesus about 30' in front of me, should I stop NOW or not????)....*splat* opps, should of stopped.

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Hmm.. so that means if someone is driving a smaller car with good tires and brakes, and behind them is a ford excursion.. and even if the ford excursion is 20ft away, the small car and just STOP ON A DIME, and probably the ford will hit them, but it will be the ford's fault and the smaller car gets $$$? Hmm...
 

mikebb

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Originally posted by: Ultima
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Ultima


Wouldn't it be the fault of the guy who slammed on the brakes? I realize it's word against word but what if the tailgater has a friend in the car and the guy slamming the brakes doesn't? Then they tell the police the guy just slammed on the brakes for no reason at all and it's 2 vs 1.

? the way the law works is the person in front is allowed to stop as quickly as possible for whatever reason....at least here.

Thinking otherwise you end up in reasons why to go against that would be bad (hmm I think I see an old lady in the road with a walker and Jesus about 30' in front of me, should I stop NOW or not????)....*splat* opps, should of stopped.

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Hmm.. so that means if someone is driving a smaller car with good tires and brakes, and behind them is a ford excursion.. and even if the ford excursion is 20ft away, the small car and just STOP ON A DIME, and probably the ford will hit them, but it will be the ford's fault and the smaller car gets $$$? Hmm...

Yes, if you own an SUV you are expected to know safe stopping distances for your particular car and follow other cars at that distance. Driving a land barge and not knowing that the Ferrari you're tailgating has greater stopping power than you is NOT an excuse when you end up ramming him.

And btw, you say 20ft like it is an appropriate following distance. 20ft is something like 2 car lengths? This might be okay if you are going 25mph, but not so smart at highway speeds, especially if you're driving an 7000lb SUV.








 
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Originally posted by: Ultima
Originally posted by: GeneralDisarray
Originally posted by: NeoPTLD Stop rolling up to stop lights at 1mph! What is the point of this? Slow down consistantly and come to a complete stop when you're at the line or behind another car. And if you're on the parkway, and there is nothing but road in front of you, drive, just please drive, I have places to go.
Does this mean people who let off the gas when they see the light turn red? Because when I see a light turn red, I don't stay at 40mph and suddenly brake at the light. I take my foot off the gas and coast. Often enough the light will turn green again without me having to brake.

No, the way you do it is exactly the right way. I'm talking about people who essentially stop a block away from the light and then let their car inch all the way up.
 
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: GeneralDisarray I hope you take some small joy from correcting a common language mistake on the internet and feeling superior, because chances are you live on it. And please draw the line of logic between my comments and my "partner" cheating? Please, draw that line for me, and show how childish you are. Or maybe just try to make one point about my post instead of reverting to a 13 year old and talking about me (and my mysterious partner) personally.
oh I stand corrected....you and your SUV are uber kewl....like leet and stuff. sorry for any misunderstanding. Å

I'm sorry, did my logic scare you? You are the one being elitist and acting superior. I merely posted about the topic with my experiences, and you decided to make comments about me and make up some bizarre story in your mind. "uber kewl" and "leet", how do these apply? Was I the one typing like a 13 year old? No, again that was you. Since your for sale link says you (or the real owner, maybe your dad?) are 32, try acting your age instead of starting fights on the internet.
 

zCypher

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The two single most annoying type of drivers are tailgaters (#1) and people who drive slow in the left lane or people who pass EXTREMELY SLOW. Staying very close to any other cars especially at higher velocities is NEVER SAFE. Period. In any emergency situation you're pretty much fvcked if you're too close to another car. So keep your distance. There is NO EXCUSE for being too close to another vehicle. Traffic, construction, condition of vehicle, being late, really crazy situation etc.. no such thing as any fvcking excuse for tailgaiting or whatever. Being close to other cars gives you ABSOLUTELY NO GAIN.

this doesn't mean it's wrong to temporarily pass close by to other cars, but meaning if you keep yourself at close proximity to others for extended periods of time

The limits are 100kph here so most people drive 110kph and slower in the right or middle lane and 115kph and up in the passing lane. However, if you are going 115kph and there is nobody preventing you from moving into the middle or right lane - why stay in the left lane? You're just going to create potential hazardous situations and make it a pain in the ass for people going faster than you are in the left lane. It's annoying as hell when someone is going 115 and they think they're going so fast and that nobody should be allowed to pass them.

grr... oh well. never had a collision and hope never to have one.
 

Spencer278

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Originally posted by: Ultima
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: Cyberian
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Tailgaters suck. So many times I will be driving in the left lane and some dick comes up with his highbeam on and is about 5 feet off my damn bumper and for some reason he thinks I should get out of his way? Why would I want to your being a dick when I can have some fun by trying to get the guy to pass on the right and then blocking them with another car.
Asshole.


So you must be one of those people that tailgate and pass on the right? To do anything but be an Asshole to tailgaters just encourages them to do it somemore. If ever messed around with them and never let them pass they might learn that there is no benfit and therefor would stop.

So you must be one of those people that stay in the left lane and hold up traffic? To do anything but be an asshole just encourages them to do it some more. If more people cut them off and ran them off the road maybe they might learn that there is no benefit and therefore they would stop.
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It is kind of difficult to cut someone off when they are in front of you and you can't pass on the right because another car is there now isn't it. Who said anything about holding up traffic I only hold up the tailgater that failed at passing on the right because they don't have a pair to speed up when they try and pass and hope that I would just let them in infornt of me. What gives you the asshole tailgater the right to my spot on the highway? Just get your ass in line and wait for everyone else and you won't have any problems.
 

Ultima

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Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: Ultima
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: Cyberian
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Tailgaters suck. So many times I will be driving in the left lane and some dick comes up with his highbeam on and is about 5 feet off my damn bumper and for some reason he thinks I should get out of his way? Why would I want to your being a dick when I can have some fun by trying to get the guy to pass on the right and then blocking them with another car.
Asshole.


So you must be one of those people that tailgate and pass on the right? To do anything but be an Asshole to tailgaters just encourages them to do it somemore. If ever messed around with them and never let them pass they might learn that there is no benfit and therefor would stop.

So you must be one of those people that stay in the left lane and hold up traffic? To do anything but be an asshole just encourages them to do it some more. If more people cut them off and ran them off the road maybe they might learn that there is no benefit and therefore they would stop.
rolleye.gif


It is kind of difficult to cut someone off when they are in front of you and you can't pass on the right because another car is there now isn't it. Who said anything about holding up traffic I only hold up the tailgater that failed at passing on the right because they don't have a pair to speed up when they try and pass and hope that I would just let them in infornt of me. What gives you the asshole tailgater the right to my spot on the highway? Just get your ass in line and wait for everyone else and you won't have any problems.

You ARE holding up traffic by preventing cars from passing you. What gives you the asshole blocker the right to prevent cars from going by? Just get your ass in the right lane and let the faster drivers pass you and you won't have any problems.

 

Spencer278

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Originally posted by: Ultima
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: Ultima
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: Cyberian
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Tailgaters suck. So many times I will be driving in the left lane and some dick comes up with his highbeam on and is about 5 feet off my damn bumper and for some reason he thinks I should get out of his way? Why would I want to your being a dick when I can have some fun by trying to get the guy to pass on the right and then blocking them with another car.
Asshole.


So you must be one of those people that tailgate and pass on the right? To do anything but be an Asshole to tailgaters just encourages them to do it somemore. If ever messed around with them and never let them pass they might learn that there is no benfit and therefor would stop.

So you must be one of those people that stay in the left lane and hold up traffic? To do anything but be an asshole just encourages them to do it some more. If more people cut them off and ran them off the road maybe they might learn that there is no benefit and therefore they would stop.
rolleye.gif


It is kind of difficult to cut someone off when they are in front of you and you can't pass on the right because another car is there now isn't it. Who said anything about holding up traffic I only hold up the tailgater that failed at passing on the right because they don't have a pair to speed up when they try and pass and hope that I would just let them in infornt of me. What gives you the asshole tailgater the right to my spot on the highway? Just get your ass in line and wait for everyone else and you won't have any problems.

You ARE holding up traffic by preventing cars from passing you. What gives you the asshole blocker the right to prevent cars from going by? Just get your ass in the right lane and let the faster drivers pass you and you won't have any problems.


If I'm flowing another car then I'm not the one holding up traffic. Like I said the only person getting held up is the asshole tailgater who gets stuck in the righthand lane while everyone else passes him.
 

It is kind of difficult to cut someone off when they are in front of you and you can't pass on the right because another car is there now isn't it. Who said anything about holding up traffic I only hold up the tailgater that failed at passing on the right because they don't have a pair to speed up when they try and pass and hope that I would just let them in infornt of me. What gives you the asshole tailgater the right to my spot on the highway? Just get your ass in line and wait for everyone else and you won't have any problems.
We drivers call you a "left lane sitter". In my opinion, the worst person on the interstate.
The world doen't revolve around people who like to go their pokey pace.
 

glugglug

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On most roads the speed limit is ridiculously slow, but if it's one lane each direction as you described then 55 is reasonable (hell most like that are 45 I think....)

To those saying to slow down, you DO realise that there is a minimum speed of 40 on highways right? (God I wish that was enforced more often).
<- witnessed the left lane being held up by a riding lawnmower during rush hour last week.

The tailgaters are idiots. If someone really wants to go faster and you are slowing them down, they have two lanes to pass -- they can either wait until the oncoming lane is clear to pass or can pass on the shoulder. (probably, maybe that's a bad assumption)

Of course, as I am pretty much always either at or above the speed of traffic, the only people who have ever tailgated me are cops. Usually at night with the headlights off tailgating so close I can see clearly out their rear windshield. They must be hoping that since their car is basically too close to see I will forget they are there. One tailed me for over 30 minutes this way once before I exited the highway.
 

Spencer278

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Originally posted by: SammySon
It is kind of difficult to cut someone off when they are in front of you and you can't pass on the right because another car is there now isn't it. Who said anything about holding up traffic I only hold up the tailgater that failed at passing on the right because they don't have a pair to speed up when they try and pass and hope that I would just let them in infornt of me. What gives you the asshole tailgater the right to my spot on the highway? Just get your ass in line and wait for everyone else and you won't have any problems.
We drivers call you a "left lane sitter". In my opinion, the worst person on the interstate.
The world doen't revolve around people who like to go their pokey pace.


You can call it what ever makes you sleep at night. I call it following the car infront of me at a safe distance and pissing off tailgaters and other aggresive drivers who as soon as they pass me will cut me off anyways.
 

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One time... this girl was tailgaiting me and my friend on a one lane road... when the road became two lanes, she cut us off hard when she got the chance and my friend had to really slam the breaks...

so now...we made a game plan within SECONDS:

first, we horned her for about 10 seconds... continuously* off and on. Then, we went 10 miles out of our way to stalk her... while continuously* blowing our horn.

She was so damn scared, and I felt a little sorry for her thinking that we're gonna kill her or something... but dammit... we woulda rear ended her if my friend didn't break in time!
 

ai42

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You know what I've considered for quite a while.... And Remember I'm a nerd like half of this board.

You know those stupid parking helpers that have red/yellow/green lights that show how far away you are from the wall. Well I was considering ripping one of those apart, and putting the sensor in my trunk or bumper. Then activate the whole thing by the brake lights with a relay. Then wire the red/yellow (depending how far the sensor is stupposed to work) light into the reverse lights. Hehe I would like to see people's reaction on the highway :)
 

Ultima

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Originally posted by: ai42
You know what I've considered for quite a while.... And Remember I'm a nerd like half of this board.

You know those stupid parking helpers that have red/yellow/green lights that show how far away you are from the wall. Well I was considering ripping one of those apart, and putting the sensor in my trunk or bumper. Then activate the whole thing by the brake lights with a relay. Then wire the red/yellow (depending how far the sensor is stupposed to work) light into the reverse lights. Hehe I would like to see people's reaction on the highway :)

I've never, ever seen those. Are your driving skills that bad down there? ;)
 

Abhi

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When i am driving a car i dont particularly care about/one with strong bumpers...

I just give a warning brake tap once and then brake *HARD*.

But thats just me....

 

Abhi

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Oh... and i forgot to mention ...

I live in Calcutta, India.

Speeds are low and the driving rules are non existant..... so.....
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: GeneralDisarray

I'm sorry, did my logic scare you? You are the one being elitist and acting superior. I merely posted about the topic with my experiences, and you decided to make comments about me and make up some bizarre story in your mind. "uber kewl" and "leet", how do these apply? Was I the one typing like a 13 year old? No, again that was you. Since your for sale link says you (or the real owner, maybe your dad?) are 32, try acting your age instead of starting fights on the internet.

Go back to your original post here about your super cool SUV and how the small cars have to learn to deal with it. Here is is below this you must have forgotten:

Originally posted by: GeneralDisarray


You're my new hero.

Why is it that people assume an SUV is slow? Sorry, your stock Civic isnt the race car you think it is. Another thing that annoys the hell out of me is sudden EXTREME breaking by small girl cars. Ok, your car is made of plastic and recycled paper or whatever, you can come to a stand still in 2 seconds, thats awesome. My truck can't, and unless you want me to drive over you, stay in motion while I break. Or just stop over-reacting to conditions. Just because someone in front of you touches their break doesnt mean you need to stop and put a 200 foot buffer between yourself and them. Stop rolling up to stop lights at 1mph! What is the point of this? Slow down consistantly and come to a complete stop when you're at the line or behind another car.

And if you're on the parkway, and there is nothing but road in front of you, drive, just please drive, I have places to go.

So who was being the 'elitest'? We should just kowtow when we see you and your badass pickup truck coming down the road out of control and late for the 3rd shift at McDonalds?

I don't start fights on the internet, the fights I start IMO are in real life...I am only behind a keyboard and screen due to the logistics here...btw do you have a thing about 13 year olds? you keep bringing them up? maybe that's why you need a truck, you can get a 6 pack of teeny boppers let them ride around in the bed.

don't cry, dry that eye

&Aring;
 

Calin

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: nan0bug
Originally posted by: tranceport
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Reliant
Tap the breaks enough to have the lights come on but not slow you down. That usually gets them off my tail.

I tried it but most people don't back off. I think they are learning or something.

SLAM on your breaks. You will always have a new car. And no more tailgaters.

This advice is best. When someone slams into the back of your car it is nearly ALWAYS their fault, unless it is a no-fault accident (act of god type stuff). Their insurance will have to pay for repairs to your car, and I guarantee you he/she will think twice about tailgating ever again.
This is the stupidest "advice" yet.

The person who gets HIT FROM BEHIND is the one that gets - possibly seriously - INJURIED. No amount of money the cheapass insurance companies will pay ($35K is where most policys tap out - and your lawyer gets 1/3rd AFTER you pay medical bills) is worth the possibly permanent pain and suffering. :p

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The collision is made with both cars at close speed - even if the speed is 50. Assuming the rear wheels remains at their place, nothing else will happen until the car stops. The problem is when one car is motionless and the other come athigh speed - but even in this case, the one hit from behind protects better the passangers.

Calin
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: ai42
You know what I've considered for quite a while.... And Remember I'm a nerd like half of this board.

You know those stupid parking helpers that have red/yellow/green lights that show how far away you are from the wall. Well I was considering ripping one of those apart, and putting the sensor in my trunk or bumper. Then activate the whole thing by the brake lights with a relay. Then wire the red/yellow (depending how far the sensor is stupposed to work) light into the reverse lights. Hehe I would like to see people's reaction on the highway :)

I've never seen them. Where do you live?
 
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: GeneralDisarray I'm sorry, did my logic scare you? You are the one being elitist and acting superior. I merely posted about the topic with my experiences, and you decided to make comments about me and make up some bizarre story in your mind. "uber kewl" and "leet", how do these apply? Was I the one typing like a 13 year old? No, again that was you. Since your for sale link says you (or the real owner, maybe your dad?) are 32, try acting your age instead of starting fights on the internet.
Go back to your original post here about your super cool SUV and how the small cars have to learn to deal with it. Here is is below this you must have forgotten:
Originally posted by: GeneralDisarray You're my new hero. Why is it that people assume an SUV is slow? Sorry, your stock Civic isnt the race car you think it is. Another thing that annoys the hell out of me is sudden EXTREME breaking by small girl cars. Ok, your car is made of plastic and recycled paper or whatever, you can come to a stand still in 2 seconds, thats awesome. My truck can't, and unless you want me to drive over you, stay in motion while I break. Or just stop over-reacting to conditions. Just because someone in front of you touches their break doesnt mean you need to stop and put a 200 foot buffer between yourself and them. Stop rolling up to stop lights at 1mph! What is the point of this? Slow down consistantly and come to a complete stop when you're at the line or behind another car. And if you're on the parkway, and there is nothing but road in front of you, drive, just please drive, I have places to go.
So who was being the 'elitest'? We should just kowtow when we see you and your badass pickup truck coming down the road out of control and late for the 3rd shift at McDonalds? I don't start fights on the internet, the fights I start IMO are in real life...I am only behind a keyboard and screen due to the logistics here...btw do you have a thing about 13 year olds? you keep bringing them up? maybe that's why you need a truck, you can get a 6 pack of teeny boppers let them ride around in the bed. don't cry, dry that eye &Aring;

No, I'm afraid my point was that people are horrible drivers. Where did I say driving an SUV made me special? I outlined annoying driver habits and reasons why they cause problems. Check the definition of elitist.
Pickup truck? Where did you pull this one from? Probably next to the place you pulled "3rd shift at McDonalds" from.
And you are starting fights on the internet, no matter how you try to rationalize it, you're sitting at a computer acting like a snob for no good reason.
That's the second time you've accused me of being a pedophile, a completely baseless claim. You see, when someone makes baseless childish claims about another person, they're acting immature. It seems to be all you can do, and your level of insults is that of an adolescent, so I compare you to a typical 13 year old. You somehow turn that into something sexual.
I really like how you avoided my comment about your age, so are you the 32 year old or not? Is it too embarrassing to admit you're 32 and being this immature?
 

andy2812

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This will only work on an old car that has a carburator:

Put something like transmission fluid in the windshield washer reservoir. Disconnect the hose that goes to the jets where the washer fluid normally comes out and put the hose into the top of the carbuerator. When someone tailgates, simply press the washer fluid button inside your car. It will cause the transmission fluid to go into the carbuerator and will a black cloud will come out of your tailpipe, which will cause the car behind you to drop back.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: GeneralDisarray

No, I'm afraid my point was that people are horrible drivers. Where did I say driving an SUV made me special? I outlined annoying driver habits and reasons why they cause problems. Check the definition of elitist.
Pickup truck? Where did you pull this one from? Probably next to the place you pulled "3rd shift at McDonalds" from.
And you are starting fights on the internet, no matter how you try to rationalize it, you're sitting at a computer acting like a snob for no good reason.
That's the second time you've accused me of being a pedophile, a completely baseless claim. You see, when someone makes baseless childish claims about another person, they're acting immature. It seems to be all you can do, and your level of insults is that of an adolescent, so I compare you to a typical 13 year old. You somehow turn that into something sexual.
I really like how you avoided my comment about your age, so are you the 32 year old or not? Is it too embarrassing to admit you're 32 and being this immature?

Ok dad
 

Ultima

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Well, I just want to put everything in one concise post:

If you're being tailgated and you slam on the brakes or do anything else to cause an accident, you're a dumbass and worse than the tailgater. The proper way to handle this situation is to MOVE RIGHT if you're in the left lane, and if you're not, take your foot off the gas until he passes you. He WILL pass you sooner or later, believe me.
If you think you're going to "teach him a lesson" or something like that, then you're worse than the tailgater and deserve to get arrested.