How to become Gluten Free

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Stopsignhank

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In ONE generation, the combined food allergies and intolerance has risen from 7% of the population to the current level of 17% according to the CDC. Now, do you think it might have SOMETHING to do with all the over processed 'convenience' foods or, dare I say it, growth in GMO foods? To borrow your question, how many people have to die before we start caring about what we eat again?


Sorry, the CDC says different.
The prevalence of food and skin allergies increased in children aged 0–17 years from 1997–2011.

Among children aged 0–17 years, the prevalence of food allergies increased from 3.4% in 1997–1999 to 5.1% in 2009–2011. The prevalence of skin allergies increased from 7.4% in 1997–1999 to 12.5% in 2009–2011. There was no significant trend in respiratory allergies from 1997–1999 to 2009–2011, yet respiratory allergy remained the most common type of allergy among children throughout this period (17.0% in 2009–2011). Skin allergy prevalence was also higher than food allergy prevalence for each period from 1997–2011 (Figure 1).
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db121.htm
 
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Skel

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I've been on a restricted diet to include no gluten for a month or two now. I had a blockage in my intestine that the surgery ended up causing another blockage which turned into a few infections before finally getting itself in a better place after four months of complete hell. I haven't a clue why someone would subject themselves to such a diet. It's like being punished at every meal. If I wasn't so desperate for a little bit of relief from the pain in my gut I'd never subject myself to this.
 

EliteRetard

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I've been on a restricted diet to include no gluten for a month or two now. I had a blockage in my intestine that the surgery ended up causing another blockage which turned into a few infections before finally getting itself in a better place after four months of complete hell. I haven't a clue why someone would subject themselves to such a diet. It's like being punished at every meal. If I wasn't so desperate for a little bit of relief from the pain in my gut I'd never subject myself to this.

Remember, you have to pretend to love it. ;)
 

Skel

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Remember, you have to pretend to love it. ;)

After a couple of weeks you get excited when you find a gluten free product that tastes less like ass than the others. It's like a dietary version of stockholm syndrome
 

Kaido

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I've been on a restricted diet to include no gluten for a month or two now. I had a blockage in my intestine that the surgery ended up causing another blockage which turned into a few infections before finally getting itself in a better place after four months of complete hell. I haven't a clue why someone would subject themselves to such a diet. It's like being punished at every meal. If I wasn't so desperate for a little bit of relief from the pain in my gut I'd never subject myself to this.

Are you still on that diet, and can you have starches? If so I have a good option for you.
 

DrPizza

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I don't think that will achieve the scale of industrial farming. And, they're targeting a very easy vegetable to produce that way. Try corn in such a setting; probably not going to happen since you can't stack it 7 tiers high. Lettuce works great for aquaponics or hydroponics. Lettuce is not very calorie dense though. Calories = energy. Lights provide energy. Conservation of energy. I'm pretty skeptical that you'll see the bulk of our required daily calories provided by such a system.
 
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Kaido

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I don't think that will achieve the scale of industrial farming. And, they're targeting a very easy vegetable to produce that way. Try corn in such a setting; probably not going to happen since you can't stack it 7 tiers high. Lettuce works great for aquaponics or hydroponics. Lettuce is not very calorie dense though. Calories = energy. Lights provide energy. Conservation of energy. I'm pretty skeptical that you'll see the bulk of our required daily calories provided by such a system.

That, and the sun is free, so...yeah :D

I would be really interested to see Soylent go global - air-drop that into places the are starving, along with Bill Gates' poo-water system :thumbsup:
 

JEDIYoda

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In ONE generation, the combined food allergies and intolerance has risen from 7% of the population to the current level of 17% according to the CDC. Now, do you think it might have SOMETHING to do with all the over processed 'convenience' foods or, dare I say it, growth in GMO foods? To borrow your question, how many people have to die before we start caring about what we eat again?
Sorry, the CDC says different.
 

Carson Dyle

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I just read maybe the most idiotic article that I've ever read. About foods that nobody should EVER eat. Among them: Peanuts. Because some people are allergic to them.

That's the sort of logic the foodphobes use every miserable day of their miserable lives.
 

BoberFett

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I don't think that will achieve the scale of industrial farming. And, they're targeting a very easy vegetable to produce that way. Try corn in such a setting; probably not going to happen since you can't stack it 7 tiers high. Lettuce works great for aquaponics or hydroponics. Lettuce is not very calorie dense though. Calories = energy. Lights provide energy. Conservation of energy. I'm pretty skeptical that you'll see the bulk of our required daily calories provided by such a system.

There are fascinating videos on Youtube of experiments in sustainable farming. We're talking about massive greenhouses with entire food chains in them, from fish to vegetables, using fish waste as fertilizer, etc. Of course none of that natural in the way hipsters like to think of natural, where a fish is only considered natural if it's caught in a mountain stream by a poor Argentinian child using a stick and string. But I think it's very cool. If the numbers that have been used are correct, you can generate a very large amount of food per acre.
 

BoberFett

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I just read maybe the most idiotic article that I've ever read. About foods that nobody should EVER eat. Among them: Peanuts. Because some people are allergic to them.

That's the sort of logic the foodphobes use every miserable day of their miserable lives.

Food is one area where the left wing is incredibly anti-science compared to the right.
 

Dr. Zaus

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It is clearly a function of The death of God:

"God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?
— Nietzsche, The Gay Science, "


Because we have no God to cleanse us, we return to the first religions of man: Avoid Unclean Food.

Unclean can be meat, or GMOs, or wheat, or non-fair-trade coffee... but without religion to cleanse us of our perceived evils, we need some other 'thing' that tells us that we are 'good'.


Your god is dead and no one cares
If there is a hell I'll see you there
 

Skel

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It is clearly a function of The death of God:

"God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?
— Nietzsche, The Gay Science, "


Because we have no God to cleanse us, we return to the first religions of man: Avoid Unclean Food.

Unclean can be meat, or GMOs, or wheat, or non-fair-trade coffee... but without religion to cleanse us of our perceived evils, we need some other 'thing' that tells us that we are 'good'.


Your god is dead and no one cares
If there is a hell I'll see you there


This is the first time I've ever witnessed the moment where a thread jumped the shark.
 

LegendKiller

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Is this like a big city trend? I'm a bit out in the boonies & haven't ever met anyone who is willingly foregoing gluten. That just sounds crazy. Gluten-free food is horrible; I've largely given up baked goods since I went off because it's just not worth it because they're so bad.

I was sitting in a midwestern old school pizza joint and some hipsters came in looking for "gluten free" pizza. The owner, who I know, laughed his ass off and told them to go over to Whole Foods.
 

Stopsignhank

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Since when did one generation equal 14 years? Try going back to when I was a kid in the 50's.

The definition of a generation.

: the average span of time between the birth of parents and that of their offspring

Link to dictionary

Going back 60 years is just slightly more than a generation. Unless you are related to John Tyler.

Anyway, where is your CDC proof that the food allergy rate in today's kids is 17%?
 

Dr. Zaus

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You might want to read the definition yourself. None of the variations equal 14 years.

Magnus: Comparing a cultural and scientific/medical capabilities between the 50s and the 20teens doesn't make sense, here are 4 examples:

1) We are better at detecting allergies
2) We are have more doctors to do the detecting with
3) We are much more affluent, and can afford to go to said doctors
4) We are more tolerant of allergies: we don't just say "tough it out kid"

I'm sure you can come up with your own examples. Might we be seeing the "silent spring" effect, particularly when it comes to autism, but we need to account for the above factors before we jump to blaming GMOs, wheat, vaccines, or the like
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Magnus: Comparing a cultural and scientific/medical capabilities between the 50s and the 20teens doesn't make sense, here are 4 examples:

1) We are better at detecting allergies
2) We are have more doctors to do the detecting with
3) We are much more affluent, and can afford to go to said doctors
4) We are more tolerant of allergies: we don't just say "tough it out kid"

I'm sure you can come up with your own examples. Might we be seeing the "silent spring" effect, particularly when it comes to autism, but we need to account for the above factors before we jump to blaming GMOs, wheat, vaccines, or the like

Your saying that greater awareness and better reporting account for the huge increase. Well, I can't prove otherwise. I only have my own observations to go on. I just think waiting on definitive proof before caring more about what we eat is even more foolish than making possibly erroneous assumptions regarding over processed foods and gmo's. If I'm wrong, who would be hurt, corporations?
 

Ichinisan

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Your saying that greater awareness and better reporting account for the huge increase. Well, I can't prove otherwise. I only have my own observations to go on. I just think waiting on definitive proof before caring more about what we eat is even more foolish than making possibly erroneous assumptions regarding over processed foods and gmo's. If I'm wrong, who would be hurt, corporations?

Starving people around the world with less access to affordable GMO food because we discourage its production.
 

Stopsignhank

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You might want to read the definition yourself. None of the variations equal 14 years.

Really?? Most people in their 20s have kids, so yeah 14 is closer to 20 than it is to the 60 years that you recommended as a generation.

Once again, You state that currently the CDC says the food allergy rate is 17%. Where does the CDC state that?

Your words, not mine.