How to become Gluten Free

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I just want to point out that without GMO, that Monsanto will starve to death.

FTFY
Seriously, that's the same argument that was used to bail out the banks, "they're too big to fail." What needs to happen is the government to stop giving preferential treatment to large corporations who grow the food. More and more, food is viewed as something that is manufactured rather than grown. Sadly, America doesn't care because of those same corporations creating a work and living environment that is unsupportable in the long run.

 

[LegendKiller]

In ONE generation, the combined food allergies and intolerance has risen from 7% of the population to the current level of 17% according to the CDC. Now, do you think it might have SOMETHING to do with all the over processed 'convenience' foods or, dare I say it, growth in GMO foods? To borrow your question, how many people have to die before we start caring about what we eat again?

They are finding direct links between people freaking out about allergies, bacteria, dirt, and our immune systems developing allergies to those same things. Look at the recent peanut study, those who consumed them are less likely to develop allergies.

The amount of shitty medical advice that came out of the 50s-90s is astounding. Red mead + heart disease, fat + heart disease, cholesterol + heart disease. All fat = bad. All of this is being roundly dismissed as shit science. Our whole food pyramid is shit.

And yet we blame this on GMO rather than where it belongs, our own stupidity.

Go outside, get dirty, eat peanuts, don't use anti-bacterial anything.

 

[LegendKiller]

San Francisco Chronicle's online website has a never ending parade of gluten-free articles and recipes. I've posted several times that only 1% of the population has any sensitivity to gluten/Celiac disease and that the other 99% can eat wheat to their heart's desire. All hell broke loose. You'd think half the Bay Area's women were gluten intolerant (and they're damn well going to make sure you know it).

Liberal education + special snowflake + money + internet = idiocy.

 

[LegendKiller]

FTFY
Seriously, that's the same argument that was used to bail out the banks, "they're too big to fail." What needs to happen is the government to stop giving preferential treatment to large corporations who grow the food. More and more, food is viewed as something that is manufactured rather than grown. Sadly, America doesn't care because of those same corporations creating a work and living environment that is unsupportable in the long run.

So what if it is viewed as manufactured, does that make it bad? Despite Americans being fatter, which can be blamed far more on how much we eat, and not what we eat. Overall nutrition is *far* better than what it was 100 years ago when food wasn't considered "manufactured".

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

They are finding direct links between people freaking out about allergies, bacteria, dirt, and our immune systems developing allergies to those same things. Look at the recent peanut study, those who consumed them are less likely to develop allergies.

The amount of shitty medical advice that came out of the 50s-90s is astounding. Red mead + heart disease, fat + heart disease, cholesterol + heart disease. All fat = bad. All of this is being roundly dismissed as shit science. Our whole food pyramid is shit.

And yet we blame this on GMO rather than where it belongs, our own stupidity.

Go outside, get dirty, eat peanuts, don't use anti-bacterial anything.

I agree, it's not a simple causal relationship and, I'm not singling out GMO's. I'm saying the obsession with 'convenience' with regards to food in the U.S. is fueling a host of poor decision making on behalf of the consumer, the government and, corporate America. There IS solid evidence that the growth in food allergies and intolerance cannot all be explained by poor personal eating habits. I simply encourage people to learn more about what they eat and stop defining 'good food' as convenient, filling and, cheap. Realistically, I don't see it happening because corporate America has succeeded all too well in training the latest generation of consumers.

Go outside, get dirty, eat peanuts, don't use anti-bacterial anything.

Works for me but, get off my lawn!

 

[Kaido]

I like blaming the fast rise yeast in commercial breads:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/healthyeating/10430422/The-great-gluten-free-scam.html

It wasn't that story, but there have been some reports of "gluten intolerant" people eating quality breads from real bakeries while on a trip to Europe....and no problems.

My thoughts:

1. Types of allergies: There are basically 3 types of gluten allergies:

1) Celiac
2) Gluten intolerance
3) Trendy/placebo

Celiacs just about die if they eat gluten. People with a gluten intolerance, such as myself, feel like crap, but given a few days I feel better, no hospital trip required. Then there are people who jump on the bandwagon for dieting or other purposes, which is fine, but according to online sources, they tend to be quite vocal about it in the same vein as crossfit/paleo/vegan/etc. But like I've said before, I appreciate those people, especially celebrities, because then manufacturers are incentivized to create more delicious gluten-free products that I can eat, so more power to 'em :awe:

2. Cause of allergies: Don't know. However, I have a theory for those of us who are gluten intolerant: I've been following gut health news for some time now. The latest stuff says that your digestive system has good gut flora that can get killed off in a variety of ways, especially if you're on antibiotics for a long time. I had major surgery as a kid, and ever since then, I was sick all the time & couldn't focus on anything - with that theory, the antibiotics from the surgery killed off a lot of my good gut flora & wiped out my ability to absorb gluten.

Fast forward to 3 years ago...discover I'm allergic to gluten & all those problems go away when I remove it from my diet. I've heard similar things from other people who are gluten intolerant - they suddenly can't handle it after a major illness, invasive surgery, being on antibiotics for awhile, etc. There are some interesting studies going on with fecal matter transplants (depositing good bacteria into the stomach manually, sounds gross but apparently it's worked for a lot of people), prebiotic & probiotic treatments to encourage growth of good gut flora, etc. Nothing is solidified just yet, however, and I'm sure there are a lot of other causes for food allergies.

I'm not 100% set that GMO's are bad. I think some GMO's are bad, but some of the techniques are no different than cross-pollination & other ancient styles of breading - but some involve DNA injection & other more hardcore scientific methods. So it's not really possible to put a blanket statement over it and says ALL GMO's are good or ALL GMO's are bad. One thing I've seen however is that in my toddler's school, there are like 8 other kids in his class alone that have food allergies - not trendy ones but the kind where you swell up & quit breathing after ingestion. The schools have to take food pretty seriously these days. That wasn't the case when I was growing up...I only remember one kid in the entire place having a nut allergy, out of like 400 kids.

3. Speaking of foreign bread, I've read a couple of accounts from food bloggers that they are able to tolerate dairy & wheat from South America & other places because their farming procedures are different - the refining, the pesticides, growth hormones, animal antibiotics, etc. sometimes don't exist in those cultures. I have a coworker who has a dairy allergy, but buys raw milk from a special farm & is able to tolerate that, so something in the pasteurization process bothers his body. So I don't know if it's GMO's, or pesticides, or what. I've thought about finding sources to try them, but if they do affect me, I'll be out of work for 3 days throwing up nonstop, so it's not a particularly attractive incentive for me. And it seems like if it WAS GMO's, then we'd have a much higher percentage of people with food allergies, since nearly 100% of corn & soy are GMO in the U.S., and they throw derivatives of both products in pretty much every boxed food at the supermarket.

Anyway, as a person with a gluten allergy, I thought the video was hilarious. Whoever wrote the script obviously has first-hand experience with it because they pretty much covered all of the bases

 

[Kaido]

So what if it is viewed as manufactured, does that make it bad? Despite Americans being fatter, which can be blamed far more on how much we eat, and not what we eat. Overall nutrition is *far* better than what it was 100 years ago when food wasn't considered "manufactured".

Yup, that's it exactly. Just look at this guy:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/

For a longer discussion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evcNPfZlrZs

 

[EliteRetard]

http://devour.com/video/how-to-become-gluten-intolerant/

I'm dying :biggrin:

100% true.

I know a family who had some relative that was actually medically diagnosed with celiac recently...and now suddenly the entire family (cousins, aunts, grandparents, EVERYONE) is massively gluten intolerant. Doesn't matter that they used to chug gluten powder during exercise or their favorite meals were gluten, gluten, and gluten. All the foods that they loved and ate frequently with no issue before suddenly became painful life threatening poison.

Since then I've cooked a few meals for them, and loaded up on the gluten. Of course I didn't tell them such, and they still sing praises about my fantastic tasting gluten free cooking.

And whenever they do get sick, have a stomach ache, or any other issue, it's "ugghh, I must have eaten gluten..." Just like they guy with the chips. Doesn't matter that they are eating trash, no the issue is "gluten".

LAWLz

I do feel sorry for the one who is actually celiac though, their diet truly does suck. Worse than the rotten expired food I eat most of the time.

 

[Kaido]

I agree, it's not a simple causal relationship and, I'm not singling out GMO's. I'm saying the obsession with 'convenience' with regards to food in the U.S. is fueling a host of poor decision making on behalf of the consumer, the government and, corporate America. There IS solid evidence that the growth in food allergies and intolerance cannot all be explained by poor personal eating habits. I simply encourage people to learn more about what they eat and stop defining 'good food' as convenient, filling and, cheap. Realistically, I don't see it happening because corporate America has succeeded all too well in training the latest generation of consumers.

I suspect we'll start seeing more correlations between manufactured food & diseases through long-term studies, much in the same way we did with tobacco. The cigarette companies would always trot out the 95-year-old guys who have been smoking since they were 12, but now we know exactly what happens to your body over the course of smoking throughout your life - lung disease, emphysema, cancer, etc. For example, GMO's were only introduced to the U.S. in 1994, so we don't have a huge historical record to base our results on yet.

Part of the problem is capitalism & part of the problem is people being lazy, largely due to human nature. With capitalism, you can sell anything that is legal under the system, no matter how screwed up it is. We sell cigarettes, vapes, alcohol, energy drinks, and all kinds of other addictive stuff, and we like it & will defend it to the death, haha. So you offer the consumer the combination of a delicious & convenient food item, and it's like shooting fish in a barrel - how can you say no when you brain instantly turns off & makes you say "I don't care what's in it, it tastes good & I can eat it right now!" Especially hot & tasty fast food, where you don't even have to get out of your car! :awe: And part of the problem is that a lot of production information is hidden from the consumer, like meat glue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXXrB3rz-xU

Or orange juice:

http://gizmodo.com/5825909/orange-juice-is-artificially-flavored-to-taste-like-oranges

http://civileats.com/2009/05/06/freshly-squeezed-the-truth-about-orange-juice-in-boxes/

It's basically just a combination of old OJ from vacuum storage, ethyl butyrate (flavor packs), and corn (extracted into Vitamin C, ascorbic acid, and citric acid). But it tastes good, it's convenient (you don't have to juice it yourself, just buy a bottle & drink!), and it's affordable, so why bother thinking more about it? I would say even further, it's no big deal if it doesn't bother you, either. I know manufactured food gets demonized a lot by healthfood advocates, but unless you have a food allergy, it's not like half the population is magically dying off. I happen to have a corn allergy, which is why I have to be careful about what I eat, otherwise I risk getting a reaction. I can handle OJ I juice myself, but not any of the store-bought kind, despite the "100% juice" labels.

So there's a lot of weird stuff going on with food that people simply don't know about, and once educated, decide they don't really care about. We don't know the long-term consequences of GMO's & other processing techniques just yet. We do know that a lot of pesticides, fungicides, and herbicides are super bad for us, which is why a lot of them eventually got banned once we figured out what they do to humans. But big companies like Monsanto have strong teams of lawyers, goverment backing, and goverment integrating, making it difficult to get real studies done & make any kind of visible headway. And our labeling laws are super lax, stuff like "organic" is complete baloney & is simply a marketing gimmick. As long as they can sell a product that doesn't kill you immediately, they're good to go under current regulations. And if the majority of the population doesn't care (which they don't), change won't happen. These problems happen in all areas of the food industry too - if you are ever bored, watched the documentary "Tapped" on Netflix, about how the bottled water industry is ruining towns by taking the water & ruining health with the plastics involved in production & consumption:

http://www.tappedthemovie.com/

Crazy stuff. But, you're going to die at some point anyway, so if it's not killing you right now, who cares? :biggrin:

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

So what if it is viewed as manufactured, does that make it bad? Despite Americans being fatter, which can be blamed far more on how much we eat, and not what we eat. Overall nutrition is *far* better than what it was 100 years ago when food wasn't considered "manufactured".

"Overall nutrition is better than 100 years ago" in terms of fewer people starving ( pardon me, a lower percentage of the population). It is not better in terms of the quality of the foods we eat (again pardon me, current foods have more vitamins than those of 100 years ago.). You and, the rest of the country, are making two separate arguments;
The first is, 'we're feeding more people with less than ever before in history.'
I agree.
The second is, 'the food being fed us is higher in vitamins, lower in fat and, more resistant to disease.'
I agree.

What I do NOT agree with is that those are the the sole definitions of nutrition and quality. The trade offs are huge. Corporate America decides what we will eat and how we will eat it. They decide what is "good" quality. They decide not only what is "nutritious" but, how it is communicated. They are responsible for an entire generation believing that seasonality doesn't exist and looks are more important than flavor. They are responsible for convincing multiple generations that "convenience" is not only the most important factor in food selection but, the only one.

Take the blue pill and strap your helmet on. Corporate America and, the government pandering to lobbyists have sold the country a bill of goods and convinced 'youts' everywhere that your 'half caff, half skim, mocha latte grande with whip cream for $7' is the elixir of life.

 

[Kaido]

100% true.

I know a family who had some relative that was actually medically diagnosed with celiac recently...and now suddenly the entire family (cousins, aunts, grandparents, EVERYONE) is massively gluten intolerant. Doesn't matter that they used to chug gluten powder during exercise or their favorite meals were gluten, gluten, and gluten. All the foods that they loved and ate frequently with no issue before suddenly became painful life threatening poison.

As a person with a severe gluten intolerance, I have no idea why people would willingly go off it - no more pizza, hotdog & hamburger buns, breads, cinnamon buns, rolls, pastries, the list is endless. Just to get skinny? I mean sure, technically, you can get in-shape by cutting out gluten, because then you're cutting out most junk food & processed products & have to eat more whole foods like meat, veggies, and fruits.

And like you said, with the bandwagon mentality, the idea that you can stuff your face with garbage food, get a stomachache, and then blame gluten is pretty silly. I'm fortunate that I've never actually met anyone like that...I suspect very few people have the willpower to keep it up willingly But it's the same with groups like vegans, which the media stereotypes quite a bit - I have yet to personally meet a super pushy vegan who tries to sell it to everyone like it's religion.

 

[Kaido]

Take the blue pill and strap your helmet on. Corporate America and, the government pandering to lobbyists have sold the country a bill of goods and convinced 'youts' everywhere that your 'half caff, half skim, mocha latte grande with whip cream for $7' is the elixir of life.

Funny that you mention that...I like to follow a fairly healthy bodybuilding-esqe diet & tend to eat a lot of salmon, which is perceived to be a pricey meat. People at work are always like "how can you afford to eat salmon 2 or 3 times a week, isn't it expensive?" Well, I buy the boneless, skinless frozen salmon filets at Sam's Club in a big bag, which works out to roughly $2 per filet, then grill it up with some yummy sauce along with some veggies & whatnot...they typically ask me this question while holding their $7 latte or frozen coffee. That one drink covers 3 whole salmon meals for me

Convenience is king. We hate thinking & we hate doing work, and food is a decision that you have to make at least 3 times a day. You can pick up a donut & $6 hot drink in the morning for a few bucks & be good to go until noon. You don't have to think beyond the Dunkin Donuts or Starbucks menu about what to eat for breakfast, and all you have to do is pull into the drive-thru...no cooking required. Not that that's a bad thing...I don't like to cook all the time either, and I enjoy stuff like Soylent (powdered meal replacement), so there's a niche for everyone...but then we make up excuses about how we don't have the time or money to eat healthy. It's just an excuse for being lazy, which is understandable because you have to make a lot of food decisions every week & it gets old if you're not into cooking at home.

My viewpoints on food has changed a lot of over the years. Like back in college, I realized I was spending a horrendous amount of money eating out every month, so I decided not to eat out anymore. I did save a lot of money, which helped fund my computer projects, but it's also nice to experience new cuisines, to be served by someone else, to not have to cook, to go on a nice date somewhere & focus on the other person instead of the meal prep, and so on.

There's so many factors to the food game; it mostly boils down to how much money you have available in your food budget (whether you can go out to eat or not, buy quality food, buy cheap food, etc.) & what your personal goals are, if you even have any regarding your health & diet. And that's what makes our society truck along...most people aren't too concerned about what they are eating, which is how the big commercial companies have gotten away with putting garbage in food for so long. If no one cares, then it's hard to make real change, you know?

 

[Paratus]

With our bread maker we use extra gluten flour & real sugar.

No one has died and it tastes good.

 

[lxskllr]

With our bread maker we use extra gluten flour & real sugar.

No one has died and it tastes good.

Yet! You just wait. I bet someone ends up dying.

 

[destrekor]

Yup, that's it exactly. Just look at this guy:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/

For a longer discussion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evcNPfZlrZs

"Two-thirds of his total intake came from junk food. He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks."

Very important quote from the article.

 

[Kaido]

"Two-thirds of his total intake came from junk food. He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks."

Very important quote from the article.

That's still probably more healthy stuff than the average American eats throughout the course of a day

 

[Jeff7]

...
Or orange juice:

http://gizmodo.com/5825909/orange-juice-is-artificially-flavored-to-taste-like-oranges

http://civileats.com/2009/05/06/freshly-squeezed-the-truth-about-orange-juice-in-boxes/

It's basically just a combination of old OJ from vacuum storage, ethyl butyrate (flavor packs), and corn (extracted into Vitamin C, ascorbic acid, and citric acid). But it tastes good, it's convenient (you don't have to juice it yourself, just buy a bottle & drink!), and it's affordable, so why bother thinking more about it? I would say even further, it's no big deal if it doesn't bother you, either. I know manufactured food gets demonized a lot by healthfood advocates, but unless you have a food allergy, it's not like half the population is magically dying off. I happen to have a corn allergy, which is why I have to be careful about what I eat, otherwise I risk getting a reaction. I can handle OJ I juice myself, but not any of the store-bought kind, despite the "100% juice" labels.
...

I guess I'd be part of the problem. One of the things I don't like about fruit is how very variable it is.
Apples range from quite tasty and sweet to fairly soft and bland.
Grapes are the same way, with sourness included in their variability.
Oranges range from sweet to having a pH that's slightly higher than concentrated nitric acid.

Sweet, sour, pick a side.


But, you have to appreciate the political engineering that went into being able to add that stuff and still legally put "100% pure orange juice" on the label.

 

[DrPizza]

Do you get your food knowledge from the Food Bimbo

Fixed. Amazing how much false information she spreads - unequivocally false information that isn't subject to opinion. E.g., microwaving food is bad because of radiation.

There IS solid evidence that the growth in food allergies and intolerance cannot all be explained by poor personal eating habits.

And study after study find absolutely no link to GMO foods being the cause.

Celiacs just about die if they eat gluten. People with a gluten intolerance, such as myself, feel like crap, but given a few days I feel better, no hospital trip required. Then there are people who jump on the bandwagon for dieting or other purposes, which is fine, but according to online sources, they tend to be quite vocal about it in the same vein as crossfit/paleo/vegan/etc. But like I've said before, I appreciate those people, especially celebrities, because then manufacturers are incentivized to create more delicious gluten-free products that I can eat, so more power to 'em :awe:

I genuinely feel bad for people who really have celiac disease. However, while those vocal idiots create more choices for you, realize that they also result in people rolling their eyes when you tell them that you're gluten intolerant. I have a "gluten intolerant" relative - I have to spend a lot of extra money on special foods she requests. But, some how, she has no problem eating my pizza ("there's really not a lot of crust to pizza") that's made with high gluten flour. God forbid she realizes after the fact that she had one mouthful of some other food with gluten; we hear about her suffering for 2 days.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Fixed. Amazing how much false information she spreads - unequivocally false information that isn't subject to opinion. E.g., microwaving food is bad because of radiation.

And study after study find absolutely no link to GMO foods being the cause.



I genuinely feel bad for people who really have celiac disease. However, while those vocal idiots create more choices for you, realize that they also result in people rolling their eyes when you tell them that you're gluten intolerant. I have a "gluten intolerant" relative - I have to spend a lot of extra money on special foods she requests. But, some how, she has no problem eating my pizza ("there's really not a lot of crust to pizza") that's made with high gluten flour. God forbid she realizes after the fact that she had one mouthful of some other food with gluten; we hear about her suffering for 2 days.

And study after study proves no link to any other cause either. Yet, we're left with a huge rise in food allergies and intolerance. Are you suggesting it's something other than what we eat? Or. are you suggesting that there's no problem with a 10 percent increase in one generation? Perhaps, it's all statistical coincidence. If the only 'logical' approach to these issues is to wait for 'scientific proof,' why don't you make all your decisions based on risk analysis of scientific 'facts?'

 

[Kaido]

I genuinely feel bad for people who really have celiac disease. However, while those vocal idiots create more choices for you, realize that they also result in people rolling their eyes when you tell them that you're gluten intolerant. I have a "gluten intolerant" relative - I have to spend a lot of extra money on special foods she requests. But, some how, she has no problem eating my pizza ("there's really not a lot of crust to pizza") that's made with high gluten flour. God forbid she realizes after the fact that she had one mouthful of some other food with gluten; we hear about her suffering for 2 days.

Wow, that's ridiculous. For starters, specialty gluten-free foods are crazy expensive, so forcing someone else to pay for your special food is kind of ridiculous if you don't really have an allergy. "Not a lot of gluten in pizza crust" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard...I'm not Celiac, only intolerant, but if I so much as dip my sushi in soy sauce (soy sauce has wheat, I have to bring my own special GF soy sauce or make sure they have it there) or take a single bite of bread, I'm out of commission for the next 48 hours. And I even have to watch out for the hidden kind...fake crab meat at sushi places uses gluten for binding. I think the video is right tho...a lot of people do it for the attention. I try not to advertise my food allergies in public because it's kind of embarrassing, haha.

 

[LegendKiller]

And study after study proves no link to any other cause either. Yet, we're left with a huge rise in food allergies and intolerance. Are you suggesting it's something other than what we eat? Or. are you suggesting that there's no problem with a 10 percent increase in one generation? Perhaps, it's all statistical coincidence. If the only 'logical' approach to these issues is to wait for 'scientific proof,' why don't you make all your decisions based on risk analysis of scientific 'facts?'

I am suggesting it is something other than we eat. There are a lot of behaviors we have that could be causing it, such as what we don't eat, or how we sterilize ourselves and our surroundings.

 

[Brainonska511]

And study after study proves no link to any other cause either. Yet, we're left with a huge rise in food allergies and intolerance. Are you suggesting it's something other than what we eat? Or. are you suggesting that there's no problem with a 10 percent increase in one generation? Perhaps, it's all statistical coincidence. If the only 'logical' approach to these issues is to wait for 'scientific proof,' why don't you make all your decisions based on risk analysis of scientific 'facts?'

You're exhibiting the classic logical fallacy of argument from ignorance. Absence of evidence is not evidence of a causal relation between GMOs and food allergies. And correlations only get you so far. You might be surprised at what things are correlated together, but totally unrelated. The scientific evidence in support of GMO foods is already here (both from industry and a ton from publicly funded, independent researchers). See the GENERA database.

Plus, the few GMOs on the market (round-up ready corn, soy, and sugar beets, BT crops, and the RNAi-type foods, like Simplot's potato or the Arctic Apple) have to pass through years of testing for the EPA, the USDA, and the FDA to prove that they are not going to interfere with the environment, other crops, wildlife, test for known allergens, and be nutritionally equivalent to existing plants (breed through traditional hybridization or mutagenesis with chemicals and radiation; and it should be noted, that these methods don't require the levels of testing that are required from GMO plants, despite the swapping and changing of many more genes in an unknown fashion).

Sure, allergies appear to be increasing, along with other problems related to health, but lashing out at biotechnology or other fad issues isn't going to solve the problem. And an over-reliance on the precautionary principle, despite evidence and statements from leading scientific organizations to the contrary isn't healthy skepticism; it's only going to impede the further development of crops that will benefit mankind (instead of just crops that can be pesticide resistant, we could see drought-resistant crops, or more nutritious crops, longer shelf-life, less bruising produce (see Arctic apples and Simplot's potato), etc... but the current regulatory environment doesn't favor smaller companies bringing these to market, since it costs millions of dollars to run the gauntlet; labs have created many varieties of seeds with such traits, but failed to commercialize them due to this huge barrier).

Edit:
I should add, if you for some reason still want to avoid GMO foods in your own diet, there is a simple way to do it: buy foods labeled 'organic.' Under USDA regulations, organic foods cannot contain GMOs.

 

[Brainonska511]

I am suggesting it is something other than we eat. There are a lot of behaviors we have that could be causing it, such as what we don't eat, or how we sterilize ourselves and our surroundings.

Yeah. Somehow, it's gotten into people heads that 'if a little clean is good, then very clean is fantastic.' There is nothing wrong with bacteria on our skin. There is also nothing wrong with hand washing with some soap (in fact, some basic hygiene has played an important role in improving overall health). But I don't think we need to go overboard - bleaching surfaces of our houses, constantly disinfecting our hands, antibacterial whatever...

 

[LegendKiller]

Yeah. Somehow, it's gotten into people heads that 'if a little clean is good, then very clean is fantastic.' There is nothing wrong with bacteria on our skin. There is also nothing wrong with hand washing with some soap (in fact, some basic hygiene has played an important role in improving overall health). But I don't think we need to go overboard - bleaching surfaces of our houses, constantly disinfecting our hands, antibacterial whatever...

It's nothing more than the same anti-logic, anti-science, anti-intellectual, anti-progress BS that goes on with Anti-vaxxers. They both belong to the same idiotic groups. They latch on to some logical fallacy and run with it merely because it adheres to some half-baked thought they had.

 

[Paratus]

It's nothing more than the same anti-logic, anti-science, anti-intellectual, anti-progress BS that goes on with Anti-vaxxers. They both belong to the same idiotic groups. They latch on to some logical fallacy and run with it merely because it adheres to some half-baked thought they had.

This picture from the Onion sums it up nicely.