How to become Gluten Free

[Kaido]

It's like a dietary version of stockholm syndrome

LOL :thumbsup:

 

[DrPizza]

Your saying that greater awareness and better reporting account for the huge increase. Well, I can't prove otherwise. I only have my own observations to go on. I just think waiting on definitive proof before caring more about what we eat is even more foolish than making possibly erroneous assumptions regarding over processed foods and gmo's. If I'm wrong, who would be hurt, corporations?

But, the current data posted was still far less than the percentage you tossed out. And,

Oh look, a foodbimbo link. Totally makes you seem legit.

Fixed.

I'm curious exactly what the numbers are of both allergy detection rates & allergy affliction rates are. I remember in grade school, there was like one kid out of 400 of us who had a peanut allergy. Now there's a handful of kids in every class, and it seems pretty severe.

And, related to Magnus's post I quoted - perhaps 50 years ago, the first time these students went into anaphylactic shock, they didn't get life-saving treatment. They died. Now, with greater awareness, they're surviving.

Remember, epipens weren't around until the 1970s.
edit: I take that back. 1980. http://www.peanutallergy.com/articles/symptoms-and-treatment/the-history-of-the-epipen

 

[Kaido]

Exactly, my wife has had migraines her whole life. Finally her doctor suggested an allergy test. Turns out she is allergic to some common food items we used to eat everyday. She cut them out and no more migraines.

She could have gone her whole life without making the connection.

That was one of the biggest relief items for me...in my 20's I got to the point where I was having a migraine on nearly a daily basis. Nothing like having your head pound so much that sunlight makes you want to puke

And I never put 2 and 2 together myself...it was a series of events over many years that finally clued me into food = migraines because there was a time delay. I had no idea eating bread & other gluteny stuff was causing it. I have not had a single migraine in 3 years now. Life-changing :thumbsup:

 

[Vdubchaos]

First they put CRAP into your foods, then they tell you how great they are for taking it out, and charging you premium for doing so.

 

[mikeymikec]

First they put CRAP into your foods, then they tell you how great they are for taking it out, and charging you premium for doing so.

There was an interesting piece on BBC Radio 4 recently, talking about what goes into typical foods, and a pack of bakewell tarts were picked as an example. They started by listing the ingredients of a bakewell tart (if one followed a traditional recipe), then compared it to the ones bought from a shop. The latter had basically swapped out all the ingredients that cost more money, replaced them with cheaper ingredients that bear no relation to the original, then added some colourings and flavourings in order to make a vague approximation of the original recipe taste-wise.

So it's not so much about adding crap to your food AFAIK, it's more about substituting real food for something that people can be fooled into thinking is real food and yields a greater profit. Who cares if it causes health problems. I think a lot of people are fooled into the idea that gluten-free foods are probably more responsibly made, but from what I understand, the substitutes used in many gluten-free foods can cause more problems too, with weight gain for example.

 

[LegendKiller]

I'm curious exactly what the numbers are of both allergy detection rates & allergy affliction rates are. I remember in grade school, there was like one kid out of 400 of us who had a peanut allergy. Now there's a handful of kids in every class, and it seems pretty severe. A lot of kids quit breathing within a few minutes of ingesting an allergen, so it's not really something that is "all in your head" or a tough-it-out thing anymore. A lot of parents I talk to are saying there's at least half a dozen kids with severe medical food allergies in their kid's classes now, which is scary because of how careful everyone has to be now...it's not just that 'one weird kid' anymore. There was a kid with a dairy allergy who just died from eating pancakes recently...it was a simple family trip out for breakfast that ended with horrible results:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-sues-eatery-death-pancakes-article-1.2151905

There was a story last year about another guy who died after eating a cookie that was made with peanut oil, didn't even have actual peanuts in it:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Allerg...-allergy-dies-eating-cookie/story?id=18723777

There's a dozen other stories like that just in the past year. I don't remember hearing about this stuff growing up. We live in a complex environment, so GMO's & preservatives may not necessarily be the culprit or the sole culprit - could be pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, antiobiotics, growth hormones, microwaves, plastics, any number of things, we just don't know yet. All we know is like what you said...we are now more aware that people have allergies that affect their quality of life.

The problem with people like you is that you refuse to actually see anything but GMO GMO GMO GMO GMO GMO GMO GMO GMO GMO.

Take, for example, peanut allergies...

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/20...ods-with-peanuts-appears-to-prevent-allergies


This is a no-shit sherlock study. When my wife was pregnant with our 3 kids she was told repeatedly to *NOT* eat peanuts or have peanuts around. Why? Because if the featus had a "peanut allergy" then it could kill it. Same thing with a newborn, infants, and toddlers. We are told repeatedly that nuts = death. Yet, nobody assumes that nut exposure can PREVENT allergies.

What about antibiotics that we feed our kids. Now days kids need surgeries earlier for everything. Want to fix rough breathing? Surgery. Want to fix this or that? Surgery. What about the gut flora destroyed by the antibiotics after surgery? What about the parents who scream for antibiotics when their kids get the sniffles? Any care about that?

What about the lack of dirt and the fact that without something to attack, maybe the immune system is just attacking the body, creating auto-immune diseases? Can't be triclosan and OCD related to being "dirty". Can't be that we now take a shower a day, if not multiple, to scrub all of those "nasty" bacteria off. Can't be that we spray our kids down with anti-bacterial shit every time they go to the playground.


NO! IT MUST BE GMOs.

This is the problem with people like you, you are linear, to the detriment of society. If people like you weren't disproven so many times you'd still believe in Geocentrism

 

[LegendKiller]

There was an interesting piece on BBC Radio 4 recently, talking about what goes into typical foods, and a pack of bakewell tarts were picked as an example. They started by listing the ingredients of a bakewell tart (if one followed a traditional recipe), then compared it to the ones bought from a shop. The latter had basically swapped out all the ingredients that cost more money, replaced them with cheaper ingredients that bare no relation to the original, then added some colourings and flavourings in order to make a vague approximation of the original recipe taste-wise.

So it's not so much about adding crap to your food AFAIK, it's more about substituting real food for something that people can be fooled into thinking is real food and yields a greater profit. Who cares if it causes health problems. I think a lot of people are fooled into the idea that gluten-free foods are probably more responsibly made, but from what I understand, the substitutes used in many gluten-free foods can cause more problems too, with weight gain for example.

What's the profit margin of the company that makes the tarts?

 

[Kaido]

There was an interesting piece on BBC Radio 4 recently, talking about what goes into typical foods, and a pack of bakewell tarts were picked as an example. They started by listing the ingredients of a bakewell tart (if one followed a traditional recipe), then compared it to the ones bought from a shop. The latter had basically swapped out all the ingredients that cost more money, replaced them with cheaper ingredients that bare no relation to the original, then added some colourings and flavourings in order to make a vague approximation of the original recipe taste-wise.

So it's not so much about adding crap to your food AFAIK, it's more about substituting real food for something that people can be fooled into thinking is real food and yields a greater profit. Who cares if it causes health problems. I think a lot of people are fooled into the idea that gluten-free foods are probably more responsibly made, but from what I understand, the substitutes used in many gluten-free foods can cause more problems too, with weight gain for example.

Yeah, food has some weird ingredients these days. I'm not sure if Twinkies still use this recipe, but last time I checked it had 37 ingredients:

http://blog.fooducate.com/2010/06/11/a-visual-of-twinkies-37-ingredients/

Enriched Bleached Wheat Flour [Flour, Reduced Iron, B Vitamins (Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (B1), Riboflavin (B2), Folic Acid)], Corn Syrup, Sugar, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Water, Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable and/or Animal Shortening (Soybean, Cottonseed and/or Canola Oil, Beef Fat), Whole Eggs, Dextrose. Contains 2% or Less of: Modified Corn Starch, Glucose, Leavenings (Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Baking Soda, Monocalcium Phosphate), Sweet Dairy Whey, Soy Protein Isolate, Calcium and Sodium Caseinate, Salt, Mono and Diglycerides, Polysorbate 60, Soy Lecithin, Soy Flour, Cornstarch, Cellulose Gum, Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Sorbic Acid (to Retain Freshness), Yellow 5, Red 40.

I actually bought a Twinkie pan a couple of years ago & started making my own (I have mastered the Protein Twinkie and yes, it is amazing :awe; it's amazing how few ingredients you actually need. And I flavor mine up sometimes with whole foods like bananas for different flavors (banana-cream twinkies are actually pretty awesome), which adds a bit of goodness to the nutritional profile.

 

[Kaido]

First they put CRAP into your foods, then they tell you how great they are for taking it out, and charging you premium for doing so.

I mean, I understand economies of scale & all that, but it is really pretty funny that they charge you more for doing less. Check out this head of lettuce, we did NOTHING to it! $3 more. Haha!

 

[Kaido]

And, related to Magnus's post I quoted - perhaps 50 years ago, the first time these students went into anaphylactic shock, they didn't get life-saving treatment. They died. Now, with greater awareness, they're surviving.

Remember, epipens weren't around until the 1970s.
edit: I take that back. 1980. http://www.peanutallergy.com/articles/symptoms-and-treatment/the-history-of-the-epipen

Man, that's scary. I've seen people start going into a non-breathing state after eating something they're allergic to. What would you even do if you didn't have medicine handy like Epipens & Benodryl? D:

 

[mikeymikec]

What's the profit margin of the company that makes the tarts?

No idea.

 

[Ns1]

Man, that's scary. I've seen people start going into a non-breathing state after eating something they're allergic to. What would you even do if you didn't have medicine handy like Epipens & Benodryl? D:

Kiss your husband/wife/kids goodbye

 

[Ns1]

Actually, that was one of the most frustrating parts of growing up - my nose was always either running or stuffy, drove me BANANAS! Doctors just said it was just hayfever...every day, all day, year round, in the 'burbs

No sorry, I guess I wasn't clear - I meant the cookie didn't have peanuts in it (like a peanut you chew on), so it wasn't readily obvious to the guy who was eating it because it's not like he bit into a peanut - it was cooked with peanut oil, which isn't something that tastes like peanut butter when you eat it:



Note that some places like Five Guys cook exclusively with peanut oil, so places like that would be a deathtrap for people with severe peanut allergies, and if you were to bring them a hamburger from there, it's not like it has a peanut taste or anything.

There are two types of peanut oil, refined and unrefined. Unrefined will still kill people with peanut allergies.

So at five guys it's not the cooking that will kill someone with peanut allergies , it's the goddamn box of peanuts at the entrance and peanut shells all over that will kill.

 

[Kaido]

In the same vein: Coconut Oil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4ONcxkBlPQ

 

[Mixolydian]

In the same vein: Coconut Oil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4ONcxkBlPQ

Hahaha that was great

 

[disappoint]

In ONE generation, the combined food allergies and intolerance has risen from 7% of the population to the current level of 17% according to the CDC. Now, do you think it might have SOMETHING to do with all the over processed 'convenience' foods or, dare I say it, growth in GMO foods? To borrow your question, how many people have to die before we start caring about what we eat again?

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[Ichinisan]

In the same vein: Coconut Oil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4ONcxkBlPQ

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[EliteRetard]

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[Kaido]

What happens when you tell people you can't eat gluten:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMZIAlKFRY4

Apple? Yes! Pie? No

 

[EliteRetard]

What happens when you tell people you can't eat gluten:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMZIAlKFRY4

Apple? Yes! Pie? No

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