Galego, I don't know what you want to prove here. Reading all this and the other threads, I get it: you like the PS4, even moreso because it is built around AMD parts. But your affliction for its success is blinding you from its potential to not meet expectations in reality.
If I was a casual gamer who wanted a no-fuss experience with gaming, I would drop money on the PS4. But I know the processing potential will still be below that of which a high-end computer can provide simply based on the fact that for say $400 so maybe actually $150-200 in the CPU+GPU department, I am not going to get a straight equivalent of a $2000 desktop and still fit within the power envelope of an average entertainment box. The other members will more or less agree that the PS4 is great in its own way but not the wonder machine marketing and enthusiastic individuals posit it to be. I'm looking forward to understanding how it works but it does no one any good to hype it beyond reason. If it does prove a hell lot of computational power, goodno one is worse off for having that. But as of now, no one is absolutely sure but as the wisdom of the crowd goes, the initial information is not absolutely supporting a PS4>PC claim.
Can developers really work and tweak future games to crank out great experiences due to the unchanging static nature of consoles? Yes, and that's the real benefit over time because one doesn't need to worry about upgrades and such. This essentially becomes a software development concern, not the hardware that is falsely seen as being almost limitless in power by the way you put it. I mentioned static because the PS4 will more or less be finalized now, going into production, and designed to last for several years; whereas I think rumors of the Nvidia 7-series are popping up and AMD certainly has things in the pipeline. What about all the improvements from Intel and AMD in the immediate future? DDR4, stacked ram, hUMA and those sort of conceptsthese make the PC quite dynamic and sure, people spend more but they are also paying for forward strides several times a year of desired. The PS4 meanwhile remains the same until a shrink like the PS3 > PS3 Slim in a few years time that again will have to endure longevity.
The PS4 will look fine for people who like consoles. It'll take time for developers to work out the new platform and best optimize games to run on its set of constraints and limits. But when future games adapt this multi-threaded x86-like platform, the PC industry is not stagnant and merely waiting to flex its strengths. 8-core Jaguars will be topped by 8-core Steamroller or whatever you want to pick out in a honest comparison; the GPU will be surpassed sooner or later. The very nature of these two different markets makes the whole better-or-worse argument a bit pointless, especially right now with a bunch of speculation and vague unsupported numbers and references.
Can it be better than a PC? Sure, if the code is poorly optimized or gimped for one platform and not the other, but from the articles I see, games should port over to the PC nicely. We will find out later on when more details arise. There's no shame being wrong or incorrect but you are distorting facts and presenting false information to lurkers like me. Plenty of posters have tried to be patient with you in this and other threads and you have got to find a way to either reconcile with the fact that 1) these are just companies and things made, not lives at stake and 2) that we could all be wrong, including you.
If I was a casual gamer who wanted a no-fuss experience with gaming, I would drop money on the PS4. But I know the processing potential will still be below that of which a high-end computer can provide simply based on the fact that for say $400 so maybe actually $150-200 in the CPU+GPU department, I am not going to get a straight equivalent of a $2000 desktop and still fit within the power envelope of an average entertainment box. The other members will more or less agree that the PS4 is great in its own way but not the wonder machine marketing and enthusiastic individuals posit it to be. I'm looking forward to understanding how it works but it does no one any good to hype it beyond reason. If it does prove a hell lot of computational power, goodno one is worse off for having that. But as of now, no one is absolutely sure but as the wisdom of the crowd goes, the initial information is not absolutely supporting a PS4>PC claim.
Can developers really work and tweak future games to crank out great experiences due to the unchanging static nature of consoles? Yes, and that's the real benefit over time because one doesn't need to worry about upgrades and such. This essentially becomes a software development concern, not the hardware that is falsely seen as being almost limitless in power by the way you put it. I mentioned static because the PS4 will more or less be finalized now, going into production, and designed to last for several years; whereas I think rumors of the Nvidia 7-series are popping up and AMD certainly has things in the pipeline. What about all the improvements from Intel and AMD in the immediate future? DDR4, stacked ram, hUMA and those sort of conceptsthese make the PC quite dynamic and sure, people spend more but they are also paying for forward strides several times a year of desired. The PS4 meanwhile remains the same until a shrink like the PS3 > PS3 Slim in a few years time that again will have to endure longevity.
The PS4 will look fine for people who like consoles. It'll take time for developers to work out the new platform and best optimize games to run on its set of constraints and limits. But when future games adapt this multi-threaded x86-like platform, the PC industry is not stagnant and merely waiting to flex its strengths. 8-core Jaguars will be topped by 8-core Steamroller or whatever you want to pick out in a honest comparison; the GPU will be surpassed sooner or later. The very nature of these two different markets makes the whole better-or-worse argument a bit pointless, especially right now with a bunch of speculation and vague unsupported numbers and references.
Can it be better than a PC? Sure, if the code is poorly optimized or gimped for one platform and not the other, but from the articles I see, games should port over to the PC nicely. We will find out later on when more details arise. There's no shame being wrong or incorrect but you are distorting facts and presenting false information to lurkers like me. Plenty of posters have tried to be patient with you in this and other threads and you have got to find a way to either reconcile with the fact that 1) these are just companies and things made, not lives at stake and 2) that we could all be wrong, including you.
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