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20/20 for English, may decide to do others later

EDIT: But when did they make "ostentatious" the same as "pretentious"?
 
19/20 on Math. The physics questions were pretty bad IMO. Color of the wires? I'm not an electrician so wtf would I know that? They certainly didn't teach me that in my physics classes, much more interesting things to learn about.
 
Originally posted by: Howard
20/20 for English, may decide to do others later

EDIT: But when did they make "ostentatious" the same as "pretentious"?

???????

Ostentation is pretention. To be ostentatious is to be pretentious. I'm not understanding the basis of your disagreement here.

Edit: Yup:

os·ten·ta·tious
?adjective 1. characterized by or given to pretentious or conspicuous show in an attempt to impress others: an ostentatious dresser.

Of course, you can be pretentious without being ostentatious, which is, I guess, where you made your mistake. But you can never be ostentatious without being pretentious. You simply can't. 😉


 
english - 17/20
math - 20/20
biology - 8/12

i haven't learned some some of those bio things in my american high school.
i can't do the history ones, french ones, or the geography ones since i'm not british'
 
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Howard
20/20 for English, may decide to do others later

EDIT: But when did they make "ostentatious" the same as "pretentious"?

???????

Ostentation is pretention. To be ostentatious is to be pretentious. I'm not understanding the basis of your disagreement here.

Edit: Yup:

os·ten·ta·tious
?adjective 1. characterized by or given to pretentious or conspicuous show in an attempt to impress others: an ostentatious dresser.

Of course, you can be pretentious without being ostentatious, which is, I guess, where you made your mistake. But you can never be ostentatious without being pretentious. You simply can't. 😉
ostentatious


Main Entry:
os·ten·ta·tious
Pronunciation:
\-sh?s\
Function:
adjective
Date:
1673
: marked by or fond of conspicuous or vainglorious and sometimes pretentious display
 
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Howard
20/20 for English, may decide to do others later

EDIT: But when did they make "ostentatious" the same as "pretentious"?

???????

Ostentation is pretention. To be ostentatious is to be pretentious. I'm not understanding the basis of your disagreement here.

Edit: Yup:

os·ten·ta·tious
?adjective 1. characterized by or given to pretentious or conspicuous show in an attempt to impress others: an ostentatious dresser.

Of course, you can be pretentious without being ostentatious, which is, I guess, where you made your mistake. But you can never be ostentatious without being pretentious. You simply can't. 😉
ostentatious


Main Entry:
os·ten·ta·tious
Pronunciation:
\-sh?s\
Function:
adjective
Date:
1673
: marked by or fond of conspicuous or vainglorious and sometimes pretentious display

Oooookay. I challenge you to show us one example of a conspicuous or a vainglorious display that is NOT pretentious.

Just one will do.

 
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Howard
20/20 for English, may decide to do others later

EDIT: But when did they make "ostentatious" the same as "pretentious"?

???????

Ostentation is pretention. To be ostentatious is to be pretentious. I'm not understanding the basis of your disagreement here.

Edit: Yup:

os·ten·ta·tious
?adjective 1. characterized by or given to pretentious or conspicuous show in an attempt to impress others: an ostentatious dresser.

Of course, you can be pretentious without being ostentatious, which is, I guess, where you made your mistake. But you can never be ostentatious without being pretentious. You simply can't. 😉
ostentatious


Main Entry:
os·ten·ta·tious
Pronunciation:
\-sh?s\
Function:
adjective
Date:
1673
: marked by or fond of conspicuous or vainglorious and sometimes pretentious display

Oooookay. I challenge you to show us one example of a conspicuous or a vainglorious display that is NOT pretentious.

Just one will do.
A rich man with a gaudy house with tons of blingy shit inside. Ostentatious yet not pretentious (at least by this definition 1a: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pretentious)
 
19/20 on math...stupid trick question....read the tennis ball one wrong and was thinking something else.
 
10/12 in History

Didn't know 2 of the more British-oriented ones.

I don't think I'm even going to try French.
 
Originally posted by: Howard
A rich man with a gaudy house with tons of blingy shit inside. Ostentatious yet not pretentious (at least by this definition 1a: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pretentious)

Well, ok, well played enough, sir! I continue to disagree, though, and I will state why, but the differences in our opinions matter little.

To me, the underlying concept inherent in your example, "A rich man with a gaudy house with tons of blingy shit inside" is the concept of the nouveau riche, those newcomers to wealth still insecure enough in their status to retain the pretentious need to display and affirm it ostentatiously.

They, the nouveau riche, are the ones who build hideous McMansions on 1/4 acre lots in neighborhoods they aspire to pretentiously.

Their ostentation is inextricably bound up in their pretention, such that they are virtually one and the same.

Old money, otoh, is secure in their status. They have no need for pretention; they feel they have nothing to pretend to. They feel they are already there, and have been their whole life, you know?

As such, they look down severly on the pretention inherent in ostentation.

I had a gf who was blueblood social register, a Wharton and a Lippincott. Her parents had a couple hundred million dollars, and lived on an estate, BUT, their two vehicles were a Dodge Dart sedan and a stripper Chevy pickup.

Old money SO sees ostentation as bound up in nouveau riche pretention that they flee to the opposite extreme!

Think NBA power forward's crib, you know. The ostentation displayed is deeply bound up in the insecurtiy of the pretention.

That rich man in you example, with his "gaudy house" and "tons of blingy shit inside"? His ostentation is a direct result of his lingering insecure pretention, to me.





 
20/20 English.

Too tired to do the others right now, but I can imagine I won't do anywhere near as well.

KT
 
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Howard
A rich man with a gaudy house with tons of blingy shit inside. Ostentatious yet not pretentious (at least by this definition 1a: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pretentious)

Well, ok, well played enough, sir! I continue to disagree, though, and I will state why, but the differences in our opinions matter little.

To me, the underlying concept inherent in your example, "A rich man with a gaudy house with tons of blingy shit inside" is the concept of the nouveau riche, those newcomers to wealth still insecure enough in their status to retain the pretentious need to display and affirm it ostentatiously.

They, the nouveau riche, are the ones who build hideous McMansions on 1/4 acre lots in neighborhoods they aspire to pretentiously.

Their ostentation is inextricably bound up in their pretention, such that they are virtually one and the same.

Old money, otoh, is secure in their status. They have no need for pretention; they feel they have nothing to pretend to. They feel they are already there, and have been their whole life, you know?

As such, they look down severly on the pretention inherent in ostentation.

I had a gf who was blueblood social register, a Wharton and a Lippincott. Her parents had a couple hundred million dollars, and lived on an estate, BUT, their two vehicles were a Dodge Dart sedan and a stripper Chevy pickup.

Old money SO sees ostentation as bound up in nouveau riche pretention that they flee to the opposite extreme!

Think NBA power forward's crib, you know. The ostentation displayed is deeply bound up in the insecurtiy of the pretention.

That rich man in you example, with his "gaudy house" and "tons of blingy shit inside"? His ostentation is a direct result of his lingering insecure pretention, to me.
I have to disagree. An "old money" man may simply have bad taste.
 
Originally posted by: Howard
I have to disagree. An "old money" man may simply have bad taste.

Huh? I simply don't understand what point you're making re: ostentation and pretention here. What point are you making?

 
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Howard
I have to disagree. An "old money" man may simply have bad taste.

Huh? I simply don't understand what point you're making re: ostentation and pretention here. What point are you making?
That ostentatious and pretention don't have to mean the same thing.
 
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Howard
I have to disagree. An "old money" man may simply have bad taste.

Huh? I simply don't understand what point you're making re: ostentation and pretention here. What point are you making?
That ostentatious and pretention don't have to mean the same thing.

And . . . how does saying "An 'old money' man may simply have bad taste" make that point?

Please explain.

 
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