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How Many Games Out There REALLY take Advantage of a GF3?

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...and I'm not talkin bout Q3 at 200+ fps. I think its a joke that we're gonna see a GF4, when theres not a lot of good games takin advantage of a GF3. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I've haven't been followin the scene as much anymore.
 
The GeForce4 isn't a legally required upgrade, in fact I don't think nVidia even comes over to your house threatening to "rough you up" if you don't purchase one.
 
I think Giants: Citizen Kabuto takes SOME advantage of the GF3. Supposedly, they make special versions of this game designed specifically for the GF3. My Elsa Gladiac 920 came with Giants and it's got some beautiful graphics. I never owned the retail version, so I don't know how it differs from the "special" version.
 
I too agree that games should utilize the GF3 but it's healthy for technology to advance. I mean this isn't a communistic world. Hell, I'm all for new technology.

However, even with the current crop of GF3 cards, games still run sluggish on some systems (CPU/System bottleneck comes to mind). Developers, when making their product, aim their target audience as the people who have these "not too old" systems. The last thing developers want is products not being able to run on the majority of available systems.
 
So far as I know Aquanox is the only game that really takes advantage of the GeForce3's feature set... naturally you certainly don't need a GF3 to play the game, but it at least takes advantage of the new features the GF3 offers.

 
Game devs. are currently targeting GeForce 1.0 class cards as "standard". Quite a few generations behind, no? With new games I'm sure they're looking at enchancements for GF 2.0 and even 3.0 cards but they'll always be a generation or two behind the hardware.

Of course there are always exceptions. The id guys come to mind.
 
I'll tell ya, my 32MB GF2 runs pretty smooth at 10x7 on every game I own. I used to be a "gotta have the latest and greatest" kinda guy, but I think I'm gonna be a "1 generation behind" guy from now on. GF3 Ti500 prices will come down as soon as GF4 comes out. So in that respect, bring on the GF4 😀
 
First off, if you don't play games over 1024x768@32, and don't care about FSAA then don't get a GF3 or GF4. The GF3 and GF4 REALLY show their power at 1280x1024@32 and higher, not to mention FSAA runs great on these cards. MOST of these people b*tching about nVidia moving to fast still have a 17" monitor. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAN, upgrade your monitor to at least a 19"!! Sh*t, the 19" Sony G400 is going for about $350 now, that's about the price of a shiny new GF3 TI500! Once you have a nice size monitor you'll like to play at higher resolutions, as the lower res (1024x768@32) looks worse now on a bigger monitor. At this point you'll see that you're current video card (<GF3) is not performing as great as you thought it was. Well, that's when you'll look toward a GF4. 😉 I have a GF2 Pro running at about Ultra speeds and MAxPayne and RTCW can use a speed increase. However, when I pay $300 for a video card I want to see a BIG speed increase so I'm skipping a generation and going straight to a GF4. 😀


Long story short, if you have a small monitor (17" or less) and are happy running at resolutions of 1024x768@32 and lower, you'll be fine with a GF2 or less. But for the HIGH res guys (1600x1200@32) with ALL the features maxed out, you can NEVER have TOO FAST of a video card, or PC for that matter. 😉
 
I dont get it with you guys.

ANY GAMES if you want to run it at 1280/32bit, you will NEED A GF3 or similar to get good fps. End of story.
People saying you dont need a gf3, yes you dont need a gf3 for 1024/32 or below, but you will neeed one with any modern games if you wana play 1280+

For RTCW, I am glad I got a GF3TI200. It might not use all its 'new features' but it CERTAINLY USED its fillrates properly. I had a GF2PRO before and at 1024/32bit there ARE major slowdown during ugly fightings. But then these problems are ALL GONE with a GF3ti200... 1280/32bit smooth even during heavy firing...
 
Nvidia likes releasing technology in a card that can't really use it to its full potential.

Geforce1--> we needed Geforce1 DDR for higher resolutions

Geforce2--> sped-up the fill-rate with no increase in memory bandwith, hence Pro and Ultra

Geforce3--> programmable vertex shading power is doubled to do the job right.
 


<< ANY GAMES if you want to run it at 1280/32bit, you will NEED A GF3 or similar to get good fps. End of story.
People saying you dont need a gf3, yes you dont need a gf3 for 1024/32 or below, but you will neeed one with any modern games if you wana play 1280+

For RTCW, I am glad I got a GF3TI200. It might not use all its 'new features' but it CERTAINLY USED its fillrates properly. I had a GF2PRO before and at 1024/32bit there ARE major slowdown during ugly fightings. But then these problems are ALL GONE with a GF3ti200... 1280/32bit smooth even during heavy firing... >>


Absolutely NOT true. I have a GeForce2 Ultra and run RTCW at 1280x1024x32 with all the eye candy cranked up to max and get no choppy frames regardless of what's on screen! See my sig for other specs.
 


<< ANY GAMES if you want to run it at 1280/32bit, you will NEED A GF3 or similar to get good fps. >>

Nah, that's not true. It all depends on your gaming habits and what "decent fps" means to you. My lowly GF2 GTS does a capable job in the res/color depth in many games.
 
I just wana clarify.

Single player games.... GF2 can handle at 1280/32
Simple Multipler .... GF2 can also handle upto 1280/32
but Huge multipler ... GF2 simply cant

Maybe it was my 32MB G2PRO not having enough memory for the RCTW that was why it showed HUGE performance gain at 1280/32 on my GF3TI200.

- GF2 Ultra/64 is a different story, you paid good money for it and it should be substantially better than a G2GTS/PRO32

 


<< GF2 Ultra/64 is a different story, you paid good money for it and it should be substantially better than a G2GTS/PRO32 >>


Yes, it was big bucks when I bought it back in April. I think it was about $300. 😱
 
When I can play the newest games in 1600x1200x32 with 4xFSAA and 64-tap anisotropic filtering enabled while breaking 80FPS, I will be happy with technology. Until then, make stuff faster! =)
 
How Many Games Out There REALLY take Advantage of a GF3?

Any game after Quake3 that you play at 1600 x 1200 x 32. Heck there are some games that I wouldn't play above 1152 x 864 x 32 on my Ti500.

Absolutely NOT true. I have a GeForce2 Ultra and run RTCW at 1280x1024x32 with all the eye candy cranked up to max and get no choppy frames regardless of what's on screen

There's no way your GF2 Ultra is smooth all the time at that setting. I run my GF3 Ti500 at 1152 x 864 x 32 x full details and it has noticeable slowdowns in some places (ie less than 60 FPS). Sometimes it even dips into the high 30s in the extremely detailed areas.
 


<< There's no way your GF2 Ultra is smooth all the time at that setting. I run my GF3 Ti500 at 1152 x 864 x 32 x full details and it has noticeable slowdowns in some places (ie less than 60 FPS). Sometimes it even dips into the high 30s in the extremely detailed areas. >>


Sorry you think I'm lieing. There's no way for me to prove it unfortunately. I should clearify that I do not have AA enabled, though. I'm not saying I never get frame rates under 60. I said I get no choppy frame rates. If it's over 35 to 40 or so, it won't be choppy. If you ever find yourself in Houston, come by the house. After I prove there's no choppy frames, we can play on my LAN.
 


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<< There's no way your GF2 Ultra is smooth all the time at that setting. I run my GF3 Ti500 at 1152 x 864 x 32 x full details and it has noticeable slowdowns in some places (ie less than 60 FPS). Sometimes it even dips into the high 30s in the extremely detailed areas. >>


Sorry you think I'm lieing. There's no way for me to prove it unfortunately. I should clearify that I do not have AA enabled, though. I'm not saying I never get frame rates under 60. I said I get no choppy frame rates. If it's over 35 to 40 or so, it won't be choppy. If you ever find yourself in Houston, come by the house. After I prove there's no choppy frames, we can play on my LAN. >>



go into CS, have 4x AA on, max resolution,use -32bpp in the shortcut, join a 32 player game, throw a Smoke grenade, and tell me if you still get 99fps.

if you do, then ill come fly to you in my magic carpet and pull an elephant out of my underwear and feed you with my 3rd hand that comes out of my middle ass-cheek.

booty
 
I think the lag you're talking about can also be related to a connection to the internet.

If you play diablo2 in a multiplayer game... just have an amazon activate slow missiles affecting another zon. That affected zon can then lag the entire game by throwing poison javelins and creating a 1fps (AND slower to even 1/2 fps) environment for everyone.

I just ordered a 19" Cornerstone P1460 that's capable of 1600x1200 at 85hz. I know I won't be able to run any games with a CL Geforce DDR at that resolution which is why I might have to get a TI200. The Ti200 seems to be bang per buck as is the Radeon 8500. Then after I get the GPU i'll probably have to upgrade my system form a p3 800 to a p4 1.7...

And so the vicious cycle continues.

I hope I'll like the monitor, I think it should be a jump from my 14" viewmate that has burnt out pixels....
 
Sorry you think I'm lieing.

I don't think you're lying, I just think you're mistaken. Your GF2 Ultra is not going to get higher framemrates than my Ti500.

There's no way for me to prove it unfortunately.

You don't have to prove anything. With your settings and your hardware I can almost guarantee that you'll get framerates in the low 20s in some places and possibly high teens in some places.

I should clearify that I do not have AA enabled, though.

Neither do I. I don't have anisotropic filtering enabled either.

I'm not saying I never get frame rates under 60. I said I get no choppy frame rates.

That's a contradiction. If it's less than 60 FPS I start to notice jerkiness.

If it's over 35 to 40 or so, it won't be choppy.

Anything below 50 FPS is choppy. Also you're definitely getting less than 35 FPS in a lot of places with your system and game setup.
 
BFG10k

what fps are you getting from the checkpoint demo?
I get about 90-95fps at 1280/32bit everything max. Bilinear + disabled Aniso
EVEN WITH THAT, there is a scene where the demoer was running into one of the airstrike, outcome 25fps...
 
what fps are you getting from the checkpoint demo?

I don't know as I haven't run it.

I check my framerates while I'm playing the game.

EDIT: what card do you have xtreme2k?
 
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