How long will it take for all of us to just get along?

[ivwshane]

I got a 50, a lot of those were very nonsensical though, and I think relies far too much on television as grounds for information. For instance, there wasn't a single question in any way, shape, or form related to the internet, where I get 99% of my information about goings-on in the world.

I got 40. Apparently I'm in a bubble that most people are in. Interesting. :eyeroll:

 

[highland145]

CNN already polices itself, fox has started. I'm not worried about a medium that has standards and competition. Social media has none of that.

Nothing to do with policing. It's spin.

@vi 58 I rode a Greyhound as a kid, once. I dug ditches for a brief stint 30 years ago. Those don't really have any effect on my life today.

 

[interchange]

Interesting quiz. I scored 44.

 

[vi edit]

More on bubble scores -
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/what-does-your-bubble-quiz-score-say-about-you/

It's more about upbringing and experiences you have as kids that temper you in different ways as an adult. It's not about who you are or how you function right now. The bubble is changing because many of us gen x/y/millennials that grew up in typical conservative areas are now moving away and rooting into zips that are more on the "elite" side of things based on the zip codes. Then our kids grow up in those areas and we shelter them more from how other parts of the country live. Rinse and repeat a generation or two and they lose even more touch on how others live. It's all part of the divide we are seeing grow.

 

[jmagg]

I scored 47. I'm a career Mason with little cartilage remaining.

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Both my children are white collar.

 

[vi edit]

I scored 47. I'm a career Mason with little cartilage remaining.

How big of a city did you live in?

I lived for 18 years in a town of 2000 people, and another 8 in the country where the next closest was 800 people. My graduating high school class was 48 people. My Dad is a career mason and I labored for for years for him. I'm sure those values really cranked up my score.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

More on bubble scores -
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/what-does-your-bubble-quiz-score-say-about-you/

It's more about upbringing and experiences you have as kids that temper you in different ways as an adult. It's not about who you are or how you function right now. The bubble is changing because many of us gen x/y/millennials that grew up in typical conservative areas are now moving away and rooting into zips that are more on the "elite" side of things based on the zip codes. Then our kids grow up in those areas and we shelter them more from how other parts of the country live. Rinse and repeat a generation or two and they lose even more touch on how others live. It's all part of the divide we are seeing grow.

Yeah, but the questionnaire asked questions such as 'have you ever walked a factory floor' which technically I had to answer to no, however I have worked a cattle farm for every Sunday for about 7 years of my life, and I've walked hangar floors both prior to, as well as in the military. I think this situation is too nuanced for 25 questions.

 

[jmagg]

How big of a city did you live in?

I'm guessing 80,000 at that time

 

[Ken g6]

Yeah, there were some weird questions on that quiz. I watch lots of network TV, but none of the particular shows they listed. Oddly, I did watch two of the movies they listed, even though I almost never go to the movies. And I lettered in a ton of activities in high school; just because health made it hard for me to do outside sports doesn't mean they shouldn't count.

 

[Commodus]

Why not? Why can't we cooperate when everyday Republicans have learned to support a healthier interaction?

Osiris did a good job illustrating how unsafe it is for someone to be open minded and admit their mistakes along the way 'lest they be viewed as wishy washy.

Your proposal seems a continuation of that. You can't recognize you got in over your head. You must repent and accept that you are illogical and self interested prior to engaging in political discourse.

That is the problem itself. Trump is a symptom of partisanship not the root cause.

I believe we must be welcoming. And that we can do this by collaborating on values instead of facts or policies.

After all, your average Trump supporter just wants to feel that their personal beliefs are not constantly under attack. They don't want to feel made to give handouts to those that don't respect their hard work, culture, etc. They want freedom to express their beliefs even if they are wrong.

I know what you're getting at, but at the same time, cooperate on what? How do you work with someone who sees no problem with a President who tells blatant lies virtually every time he opens his mouth? Who doesn't mind if tens of millions of people lose health care so long as they, personally, don't see a downside? Who dismisses basic science simply because a talking head on Fox said they should?

That's the problem. Yeah, partisanship is a issue, but when one side largely rejects truth, accountability, and concern for anyone that isn't in their immediate social circle, you have to put your foot down -- I'm willing to help you rethink those positions, but you will not be a reasonable person until you do rethink those positions.

 

[woolfe9998]

A good start would be an acknowledgment of fact. If you trying to come to a consensus with someone who says 2+2=5, I don't know where to go from there.

Exactly this. It's hard to get along when you're on two different planets. The rift is just too wide for a handshake to span it. When we arrive at a point of shared reality, we can work out our differing opinions about and interpretations of that reality. Until then, we don't have any options for consensus.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Modern man has existed for about a million years more or less. In that time there has not been a single moment when we all got along. So don't hold your breath. If some global apocalypse knocked the population down to two people they'd probably still hate each other.

 

[Ajay]

41 - those 'have you ever' questions, really? Like all short tests, I think it missed allot

 

[Ajay]

Nothing to do with policing. It's spin.

@vi 58 I rode a Greyhound as a kid, once. I dug ditches for a brief stint 30 years ago. Those don't really have any effect on my life today.

Yeah, that kind of stuff. I worked construction a couple of times even though I'm college educated - I have a work ethic, sue me. I worked as an engineer at a manufacturing plant early in my career - I worked with guys on the line and PhDs - that made my world smaller? Heh, triggered a bit, lol

 

[trenchfoot]

Don't talk politics or religion.

Outside of this forum, this has always been my golden rule. What I've heard coming out of people's mouths on both subject matters are quite often alarming and well, so incredulous that discussing those matters where growth and understanding can occur on both sides is simply a waste of time.

Even if I just so happen to wholly agree with another person's opinion on the topics of religion and politics, I will refrain from commenting. Best not to jump in and regret it.

As I've previously mentioned, my comments are limited to my actions outside of this forum.

 

[skull]

Honestly, I think the reason why we're so opposed on things (and why angles seem so sharp) is because we've mostly come together on everything else. There aren't great rifts in fiscal policy, administrative policies, etc. Everything just seems like a big deal even though it isn't, and since we don't have big shit to fight about, we brew tempests in a teapot over every little thing. That leads to extreme views on those stupid little things (since extreme views on little things doesn't have an extreme effect, so it's passable to 50%) and you end up with Trump.

This is why I believe libs and repubs are all the same. You ignore the big stuff but blow the little stuff out of proportion. I think all the politicians do it on purpose to distract from the real issues. Saying we need no change to fiscal policy isn't right when you can watch the debt clock count ridiculous numbers in seconds. We don't just need change we need major change. Trump won by convincing people he'd bring that change. The problem is hes an obvious liar and is trying to bring major change in the wrong direction.

 

[skull]

Outside of this forum, this has always been my golden rule. What I've heard coming out of people's mouths on both subject matters are quite often alarming and well, so incredulous that discussing those matters where growth and understanding can occur on both sides is simply a waste of time.

Even if I just so happen to wholly agree with another person's opinion on the topics of religion and politics, I will refrain from commenting. Best not to jump in and regret it.

As I've previously mentioned, my comments are limited to my actions outside of this forum.

Yeah trying to have a reasonable conversation with all the conservatives in my area, is like trying to talk to you guys by pounding on my keyboard.

 

[JSt0rm]

 

[skull]

They say a picture says a thousand words. That ones saying a lot, didn't see it coming from you j. At least the way I'm interpreting it.

 

[JSt0rm]

good art has many interpretations

 

[HomerJS]

I think someone needs to run on the platform of "Political Respect" rather than "Politically Correct". It's just as you say. You don't berate someone for their ideas. Give it an honest understanding and try to respect why someone feels/thinks the way they do.

This was an interesting quiz.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/do-you-live-in-a-bubble-a-quiz-2/

I scored a 65 because of most of my childhood and early to late teenage life. I grew up in ground zero of many heavy "Trump" areas. I do get it. But I also understand that you just can't sit on your hands and think that electing an official will magically make that better.

I scored a 42

 

[skull]

I like it, I think about it at times wondering where my stuff comes from, who and what they went through for it to get to me. Thats why a lot of people with big houses, expensive clothes, cars and gadgets piss me off. They have way more than they need and still act like their victims or hard off because they don't have every single thing they want. I'm not even talking rich people I'm talking normal middle class folks that have plenty and don't even realize it. I'm low class to most, I feel like I'm rich, I still want more but thats human nature. I don't intend on riding on anyones back to get there.

 

[Will Thatcher]

Strong message and true in so many ways! I would like to hear your interpretation of it!
Scored 63 and interesting quiz!

 

[JSt0rm]

I like it, I think about it at times wondering where my stuff comes from, who and what they went through for it to get to me. Thats why a lot of people with big houses, expensive clothes, cars and gadgets piss me off. They have way more than they need and still act like their victims or hard off because they don't have every single thing they want. I'm not even talking rich people I'm talking normal middle class folks that have plenty and don't even realize it. I'm low class to most, I feel like I'm rich, I still want more but thats human nature. I don't intend on riding on anyones back to get there.

I try to buy as much as I can from artisans and true crafts people. All of my leather goods are made by real leather workers who work in the old ways. My denim is japanese made in the old ways with real indigo inks and sown either in japan or the usa by hand. My watch is hand made in sweden by real craftsmen. My leather boots were made in Massachusetts using leather from a company in chicago that has been making leather for hundreds of years. All of my furniture is made in the usa. From reclaimed wood tables to couches. I consider myself upper class and feel incredibly lucky to have that. But I dont take it for granted and I use my buying power to give my money to the real people. I still have an iphone. I still get some stuff from china. Its impossible in this modern world.

 

[skull]

I should of worded that different at the end. I won't do it intentionally. I still buy cheap clothes and gadgets that I'm sure are made in sweatshops and such. I have fancy gadgets and such I just realize that by having them I have a lot more than other people in this world. I respect it, I'm not going to go cry poor me because my car broke, I'm going to get greasy and fix the sob. Too many in the US today act like lifes is so tough even though they have it so easy. Not only because of where they are but modern times 100 years ago most people didn't have cars, electric, plumbing, central heating, etc.