How high will ivy bridge overclock

[d4a2n0k]

These are all valid points . If the story of intel replacing 3770K 1 tme for free if you destroy it is true . I don't care what the debated safe voltage is . I will run mine @ 5.3ghz or 5.5 ghz or higher . I will not go above 1.45 v . If its true that intel will give us 1 replacement it just doesn't matter to myself . Others may have a differant thouughts on this . But as long as intel gives me a replacement no questions asked the Voltage question just doesn't matter on the first 3770k I purchase

They should do this for the IB as well. I coughed up the $35 for my 3960x, well worth it.

http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/

 

[psolord]

They should do this for the IB as well. I coughed up the $35 for my 3960x, well worth it.

http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/

Wait a minute, let me get this straight.

If I overclock my cpu and it breaks down, and then I take it back to the shop I bought it from and tell them that it broke down for no reason, how on earth are they going to tell if I did something to damage it or it broke down by itself?

I don't know what is the legislation in other parts of the world, but in EU, there is a mandatory two year warranty for ALL electronics. If it breaks down the shop must replace it. End of story.

There's no way they are going to send it back to Intel or whomever and wait an X prolonged amount of time, for Intel to come to a verdict if the chip malfunctioned by itself or by user misuse.

It has happened to me, in more than one occasion, that some parts broke down and I received instant replacement (instant being the next day).

 

[Idontcare]

Wait a minute, let me get this straight.

If I overclock my cpu and it breaks down, and then I take it back to the shop I bought it from and tell them that it broke down for no reason, how on earth are they going to tell if I did something to damage it or it broke down by itself?

I don't know what is the legislation in other parts of the world, but in EU, there is a mandatory two year warranty for ALL electronics. If it breaks down the shop must replace it. End of story.

There's no way they are going to send it back to Intel or whomever and wait an X prolonged amount of time, for Intel to come to a verdict if the chip malfunctioned by itself or by user misuse.

It has happened to me, in more than one occasion, that some parts broke down and I received instant replacement (instant being the next day).

The difference is in terms of the individual's sense of ethics.

If an individual has no qualms regarding fraud then there is no reason for them to be concerned with the performance warranty extension that Intel is offering.

But that is true in all aspects of law and ethics, be it registering your hand gun to not stealing from the penny tray at the gas station.

Getting caught, or the threat of such, is not what is supposed to define for you whether or not you do the right thing. Your own sense of right and wrong, and adherence to law, is supposed to guide your moral compass north.

The OC'ing warranty does that for the enthusiast, it also enables a whole class of viable reseller activity in the OC marketspace.

 

[Nemesis 1]

The link other user gave explains it. That free replacement your talking about is for intended use only . If it broke when out of spec. The only way you get free replacement is if YOU LIE. The intel performance replacement . Gives you a free cpu if you run out of spec . The differance is you don't have to LIE. Pretty big deal.

 

[psolord]

Oh I see. I was worried there for a moment.

Thankfully my damaged products really did broke down by themselves, but even if they didn't, I am really sorry (no I am not) but there is no way in God's good hell, I'd admit to my misuse even if I did it.

Take it as you may, but regarding ethics towards corporations, I'll make sure I'll shape mine, according to how corporations shape their ethics towards me.

Thankfully I hold no grudge against Intel, since they are quite fair in all honesty, but hey, look how other IT companies treat their customers. The price tag on the 7970 for example, Nvidia branding and pricing their GTX 660 as a GTX 680 and so on and so forth. Sorry but it's not my ethics I have to worry about. Corps look after their own interests, so will I.

 

[Smoblikat]

Think about it, you have more transistors in a smaller space which means the cores will need to have more cooling.

Would they not also be smaller, and have less surface area to generate heat on. So remain cooler?

 

[Edgemeal]

They should do this for the IB as well. I coughed up the $35 for my 3960x, well worth it.

http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/

Rather then paying for an extended warranty I'd rather Intel sell me a chip with only a 30/90-day warranty at a 30+ percent discount.

 

[Jman13]

Well, no...they have less surface area to DISSIPATE heat off of, which is the main issue.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Thankfully my damaged products really did broke down by themselves, but even if they didn't, I am really sorry (no I am not) but there is no way in God's good hell, I'd admit to my misuse even if I did it.

This right here is more than I wanted to know about you . It says alot. But than again this is america were this is now common place . Truely sad

 

[d4a2n0k]

Rather then paying for an extended warranty I'd rather Intel sell me a chip with only a 30/90-day warranty at a 30+ percent discount.

I would take that as well but that wont happen because we all know how reliable these CPU's are, and Intel knows as well. You have to try to burn one up these days!

 

[psolord]

This right here is more than I wanted to know about you . It says alot. But than again this is america were this is now common place . Truely sad

Being IT enthusiasts, means that we have been robbed more than once from IT corps. Paying them with the same coin is only natural. Sorry but I am not Jesus.

You are welcome to pole vault to conclusions all you want btw.

 

[gramboh]

Thankfully I hold no grudge against Intel, since they are quite fair in all honesty, but hey, look how other IT companies treat their customers. The price tag on the 7970 for example, Nvidia branding and pricing their GTX 660 as a GTX 680 and so on and so forth. Sorry but it's not my ethics I have to worry about. Corps look after their own interests, so will I.

How are the prices charged by AMD and NVIDIA on the 7970/680 ethically unfair for consumers? The vendors offer the products for a price, and some customers are willing to pay for them. What is the issue? These are luxury products too (halo cards, at the top of the product spectrum) that were just introduced. The pricing is not far off previous generations.

The "evil corporations" are offering a fair trade, you either buy it or you don't. It's pretty sad to rationalize warranty fraud in your mind by somehow thinking you are owed something.

 

[Smartazz]

How are the prices charged by AMD and NVIDIA on the 7970/680 ethically unfair for consumers? The vendors offer the products for a price, and some customers are willing to pay for them. What is the issue? These are luxury products too (halo cards, at the top of the product spectrum) that were just introduced. The pricing is not far off previous generations.

The "evil corporations" are offering a fair trade, you either buy it or you don't. It's pretty sad to rationalize warranty fraud in your mind by somehow thinking you are owed something.

Agreed. Warranty fraud, like shoplifting serves to hurt other consumers since companies will pass that cost off to us.

 

[Imouto]

105C is very hot. Perhaps it will overclock well then. I don't mind if it runs hot; I think my HSF can handle it and it's quiet with the fans at full blast.

I really think these chips are going to bring on some new innovations in terms of cooling. I really think that watercooling especially should be able to generate less noise.

Tweaktown review was done with a H100 and the real problem is the chip running very hot while the cooling solution is just lukewarm. As for me there's no HFS out there able to do the work properly.

Is it just me, that sees VERY VERY low voltages, and seems like they just didn't push the ES samples very hard?

I can't seem to navigate they're wording saying:
"We simply couldn't get stable in 4,9 or 5,0! Sorry guys!"

They just stopped at X Overclock.

If you read the whole OC part it says that the CPU was throttling. As for me the tweaktown review guy went as far as the chip allowed.

 

[Smartazz]

Tweaktown review was done with a H100 and the real problem is the chip running very hot while the cooling solution is just lukewarm. As for me there's no HFS out there able to do the work properly.



If you read the whole OC part it says that the CPU was throttling. As for me the tweaktown review guy went as far as the chip allowed.

Could this be a sign that the heatspreader isn't up for the task?

 

[Imouto]

Could this be a sign that the heatspreader isn't up for the task?

As for me there's no other answer. Maybe processes under 22 nm will need on-package active aid for cooling or weaker cores.

 

[SickBeast]

It seems as though Ivy Bridge's one advantage over Sandy Bridge is that it requires less power. It also seems to have a 5-10% performance advantage in several benchmarks. It's not really a compelling upgrade at all for people who have a 2500k.

 

[Fjodor2001]

It seems as though Ivy Bridge's one advantage over Sandy Bridge is that it requires less power. It also seems to have a 5-10% performance advantage in several benchmarks. It's not really a compelling upgrade at all for people who have a 2500k.

A lot of people forget there's more to CPU upgrades than the CPU performance increase.

Going from SB->IB you also get:

* Native USB 3.0
* PCI-E 3.0
* ~50% IGP performance increase
* DirectX11, OpenGL 3.1, and OpenCL 1.1 support
* Multiple 4K video playback
* Lower TDP
* DDR3L support
* and more...

 

[grimpr]

Sandy Bridge is fine, i'll wait for Intels 14mm Haswell successor.

 

[frozentundra123456]

How are the prices charged by AMD and NVIDIA on the 7970/680 ethically unfair for consumers? The vendors offer the products for a price, and some customers are willing to pay for them. What is the issue? These are luxury products too (halo cards, at the top of the product spectrum) that were just introduced. The pricing is not far off previous generations.

The "evil corporations" are offering a fair trade, you either buy it or you don't. It's pretty sad to rationalize warranty fraud in your mind by somehow thinking you are owed something.

I am not rationalizing lying to get a replacement, and in pricing a new product, I would agree that AMD/nVidia are not unethical in selling a product at a given price: buy it or not depending on if you think the price is acceptable. However, I do think AMD and nVidia are unethical in the way they re-brand their products and put out gimped versions of a card with the same number. However, even assuming a company is unethical, that still does not excuse the individual from acting ethically.

 

[Idontcare]

Sandy Bridge is fine, i'll wait for Intels 14mm Haswell successor.

Is that Rockwell?

 

[Don Karnage]

Is that Rockwell?

Broadwell I believe

 

[tweakboy]

Lets ask the magic genie !


It will OC similar to 2600k ,,,,,,,, it will do 5.5Ghz where a 2600k cant really do that without burning your cpu .. hmmm.

 

[rgallant]

A lot of people forget there's more to CPU upgrades than the CPU performance increase.

Going from SB->IB you also get:

* Native USB 3.0
* PCI-E 3.0->>>>>>>32 lanes with the right mb
* ~50% IGP performance increase
* DirectX11, OpenGL 3.1, and OpenCL 1.1 support
* Multiple 4K video playback
* Lower TDP
* DDR3L support
* and more...

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z77_WS/#specifications

 

[grimpr]

Is that Rockwell?

Something that ends in well most propably. I'll wait to buy the whole cake with 3D stacked memory/interposers etc and not the half baked one in Haswell.