Lane splitting is perfectly fine and legal, not the same at ALL ESPECIALLY in bumper to bumper traffic.
Lane splitting is perfectly fine and legal, not the same at ALL ESPECIALLY in bumper to bumper traffic.
slightlyhuman
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Wow, hmm I guess california is the only state that allows this! http://thekneeslider.com/archi...lowing-lane-splitting/
Though it seems like Texas is interested in making this legal!
PlasmaBomb
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The same applies when you are driving on the Interstate Jules. Fuck up and you could kill yourself and possibly someone else...
PlasmaBomb
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The current push for limiting the speed is based on environmental concerns. Driving at very high speed produces too much CO2 for the environmentalists to be happy...
Fail argument is fail.
DivideBYZero
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Wow. That's some bitter shit right there. Why not allow a motorbike to pass? It's entirely his responsibility to do it safely and when he feels it is safe to do so. In the UK it's called 'Filtering' and is perfectly legal. This doesn't mean you don't get total douchebags doing it at 100Mph between cars doing 80Mph, but that's only 5% as douchey as scaring a motorcyclist because he's passing you.
StageLeft
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Can't we just all agree on the fact that the corvette was driving dangerously? Are some of you here really pretending he wasn't? This shouldn't have to be spelled out for you.
Regarding lane splitting I have no idea what the numbers are but I've seen it happen at highway speeds (insane) and at bumper to bumper traffic speeds (not insane, but not safe, IMO). I think it's risky.
Exactly, this is grade school math and grade school common sense.
Regarding lane splitting I have no idea what the numbers are but I've seen it happen at highway speeds (insane) and at bumper to bumper traffic speeds (not insane, but not safe, IMO). I think it's risky.
How many of you have actually driven on the Autobahn in Germany? How many of you have or currently have a license to drive in Germany?
Speaking as someone who lived there for two years and had a license for those years and drove on the Autobahn, you're all right and wrong.
Of course it's dangerous, no one would deny that...but the laws, driver training, and experience of the Germans is radically different than that the US. There are speed limits on most of the parts of the Autobahn; it isn't all unregulated speed-wise, only certain stretches.
Germans don't drive like Americans. You will get ticketed for driving there like you do in the US (eg: sitting in the left lane). Getting a license in Germany is really expensive and requires substantial training/courses.
You cannot correlate what you know about driving in the US and think it's the same in Germany because it isn't at all. Driving fast on the highways here is not at all the same as there - end of story.
I'm not saying it's "safe" or without risk, but most of you don't know what you don't know regarding driving in Germany.
Speaking as someone who lived there for two years and had a license for those years and drove on the Autobahn, you're all right and wrong.
Of course it's dangerous, no one would deny that...but the laws, driver training, and experience of the Germans is radically different than that the US. There are speed limits on most of the parts of the Autobahn; it isn't all unregulated speed-wise, only certain stretches.
Germans don't drive like Americans. You will get ticketed for driving there like you do in the US (eg: sitting in the left lane). Getting a license in Germany is really expensive and requires substantial training/courses.
You cannot correlate what you know about driving in the US and think it's the same in Germany because it isn't at all. Driving fast on the highways here is not at all the same as there - end of story.
I'm not saying it's "safe" or without risk, but most of you don't know what you don't know regarding driving in Germany.
thescreensavers
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JulesMaximus
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Actually, I've seen studies that indicate it is safer than sitting in stop and go traffic because you are less likely to get rear ended. CHP actually is one of the biggest proponents of lane splitting.
I don't agree. It was clearly nascars fault:roll:
"The wall had been placed closer to the track than its original position, in order to enlarge the area behind it for use as a children?s play area during an earlier NASCAR race.
he was definitely booking; close to or exceeding 200mph. i've driven from strasbourg to stuttgart in under 45 minutes in my m3. most of it was spent bouncing off my rev limiter at 155-156mph. somebody in an AMG CLK55 passed me :shifty
when you're driving that fast on the autobahn, usually you have your left turn signal on and are flashing the shit out of your headlights to warn drivers ahead to gtfo. They also equip high performance cars with very high performance brakes; that said when there is a crash on the autobahn, a lot of people usually end up dying. I'm required to carry 7.5 million euros in liability insurance on my M3 in germany. compare to 300K in the US.
when you're driving that fast on the autobahn, usually you have your left turn signal on and are flashing the shit out of your headlights to warn drivers ahead to gtfo. They also equip high performance cars with very high performance brakes; that said when there is a crash on the autobahn, a lot of people usually end up dying. I'm required to carry 7.5 million euros in liability insurance on my M3 in germany. compare to 300K in the US.
us spec e36, ins company was usaa @ 3600/yr aig wanted 4400! f that mess. I pay less than 900 in the US.
Malak
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So this is where we start our post to talk about stuff we have personally experienced with a lot of blah blah blah blah...
That's all you had to say. That's the whole arguement right there. Skill, training, insurance, legalities, and the size of your brakes doesn't mean squat at 200mph. Period.
DVad3r
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I lived in Germany for 3 years and have been back there several times over the years. Germans, and Europeans in general have a much higher driver education program than in the US, and especially Canada where driving is a joke.
My aunt who lives there retook the test 3 times because she failed, and not only that, she had to paid thousands of marks just to get it.
A lot of German cars are highway mega monsters, even a diesel Jetta there travels at 200-220 km/h if it desires. When you move up a class and get into the Audi's, BMW's, Mercedes, all those cars are easily capable of 240 km/h + travel.
Sure it's dangerous, but that's how you drive up there. In fact I would not even consider that dangerous compared to how cars or motorcycle drive in Italy let's say, or even Poland, a country with a high population, limited space, and non developed road ways. I was in Poland and my cousin drove me from Lodz to the Baltic on a two lane road most of the way. I almost shit my pants and how he was driving, passing cars, flashing lights, 24/7.
It all comes down to education and intelligence at the end. Germans are a highly educated people compared to most countries, especially North Americans. Of course if that happened on our highways it would be dangerous, it's dangerous to just drive the speed limit and people cut you off or don't move out of the way because they are asleep at the wheel or don't even see you.
In the end it all boils down to checking your mirror. You check your mirror, you see a pair of headlights approaching you, maybe even flashing, you gtfo of the way, it's that simple. To get the same effect in North America you need to use the horn, flash your lights, possibly pass them from the right, or install a train horn kit like I'm planning to.
My aunt who lives there retook the test 3 times because she failed, and not only that, she had to paid thousands of marks just to get it.
A lot of German cars are highway mega monsters, even a diesel Jetta there travels at 200-220 km/h if it desires. When you move up a class and get into the Audi's, BMW's, Mercedes, all those cars are easily capable of 240 km/h + travel.
Sure it's dangerous, but that's how you drive up there. In fact I would not even consider that dangerous compared to how cars or motorcycle drive in Italy let's say, or even Poland, a country with a high population, limited space, and non developed road ways. I was in Poland and my cousin drove me from Lodz to the Baltic on a two lane road most of the way. I almost shit my pants and how he was driving, passing cars, flashing lights, 24/7.
It all comes down to education and intelligence at the end. Germans are a highly educated people compared to most countries, especially North Americans. Of course if that happened on our highways it would be dangerous, it's dangerous to just drive the speed limit and people cut you off or don't move out of the way because they are asleep at the wheel or don't even see you.
In the end it all boils down to checking your mirror. You check your mirror, you see a pair of headlights approaching you, maybe even flashing, you gtfo of the way, it's that simple. To get the same effect in North America you need to use the horn, flash your lights, possibly pass them from the right, or install a train horn kit like I'm planning to.
This
and this.
Ive had a number of people who have lived in Germany tell me the exact same things.
JulesMaximus
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You couldn't get drivers to be that courteous here in North America. Bunch of self-righteous assholes who sit in the left lane policing everyone else.
Well I'd fully support ticketing by the highway patrol - with points for such behavior.
People need to realize how dangerous it is for everyone in the vicinity.
exar333
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Definitely. Kind of like people policing threads and telling others that certain legal behavior is irresponsible.
Seriously though, there is onbious risk to traveling that fast. If you are up to the task, accept the risks, and understand that others' safety is important, more power to you. People buy fast cars to drive fast; I would much sooner see this rather than someone buying a Bugatti and letting it sit forever in a garage.
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