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aidanjm

Lifer
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Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: southpawuni
Arrested me for stupid BS.. when I was trying to do the RIGHT thing.

I'm not even going to go over it because theres a bunch of self rightous people here (like bradruth) who will say "yup but you broke the law NARF NARF NARF"

basically i was minding my own business, NOT drinking and driving because I dont do that. It wasnt just public intox so dont even assume.

One of my old tenats is: "who is the criminal, the person starving stealing bread, or the officer arresting her?"

something to think about.
and no, it doesnt apply to my situation directly, I didnt steal bread.
But its the same basic concept.

The person stealing the bread.

incorrect. it's the arresting officer.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
How far can you go without being arrested?

Im guessing you cant outright call them Pigs. That would be sweet.

But I figured i can mock them like say "hey YEAH you guys are doing a good job!" or some sarcastic bullshit

as long as im sober, i'd never do it after a drink.

any one know the laws? I'm assuming "pig" is a threat or some BS, and telling them "FU" is prob the same.

If I get cancer someday there definitely will be alot of payback on the police coming from me.. :thumbsup:

This sounds like something Homer Simpson would do. I will let you decide if that is a good thing or not...

 

Injury

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Originally posted by: TallBill
You claim that you were picked on because you are poor. Well, these are campus police correct? That would mean that they patrol the campus, which is mainly composed of college students. When I was in school a few years back, 99% of college students were strapped for cash. That?s like fish complaining that fishermen catch them and not zebras. Your argument here is completely invalid.

Of course, this part is all assuming that the police officers did their rountine credit check and income tax record analysis before taking action. ;)
 

HomeAppraiser

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Originally posted by: Injury
Police work is the single most dangerous line of work in the country.

While I truly respect your service, that statement is cliché:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/

Originally posted by: TallBill
You claim that you were picked on because you are poor.

Profiling? You betcha! However, so much depends on the officer and his/her mindset towards the prep. My roommate and I were detained by the State Police when we were freshmen for pulling pranks, but not arrested even though we should have been.

My advice to the OP is to let it go or it will eat you up inside.
 

Sphexi

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Gotta be careful. Up here "University Police" are actually city police, just assigned to a different unit. They rotate around, so the same guys won't have to work it for more than a few months. They have guns, they have all the rights and authority of other cops, they're just patrolling the university area more than not.
 

huberm

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
How far can you go without being arrested?

Im guessing you cant outright call them Pigs. That would be sweet.

But I figured i can mock them like say "hey YEAH you guys are doing a good job!" or some sarcastic bullshit

as long as im sober, i'd never do it after a drink.

any one know the laws? I'm assuming "pig" is a threat or some BS, and telling them "FU" is prob the same.

If I get cancer someday there definitely will be alot of payback on the police coming from me.. :thumbsup:


excellent way to thank your local police force for giving up holidays, making their families a 2nd priority, oh yeah and risking their lives on a day to day basis, so that you might have a safer life.

maybe if you were to try their job for just one day you would have more respect for them.

 

Sphexi

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Anyway, nice attack on me. Move on with your "Call police names policy" God loves people that do that I hear. Hypocrite!

I highly doubt God cares if people question police authority.

God recognizes NO police authority.. contrary to alot of modern day christians who are total statists. God would rather you only recognize HIS authority if anything.
You dont agree?

1 Peter 2:13 "Submit yourself to every ordinance of man . . . to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors."

Matthew 22:21 "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's." See also Romans 13:1,7 and Titus 3:1.

I'm pretty sure God DOES care. Almost as much as he cares about your joy when people (cops) get beaten or shot. There is absolutely NO reason at all that you should enjoy hearing about something, or even have a total lack of compassion when something like that happens. All that shows is your total and utter lack of any kind of decent moral fibre in your being.

I agree that there are police officers who abuse their power, just as there's judges who abuse their power, and politicians who abuse their power, and teachers who abuse their power, and criminals who abuse their power. Power is simply something you have that allows you to control or influence others, that's it. In police officers' cases, it's laws and authority granted to them by our government. In a criminal's case, it's a gun, a knife, or some other threat of violence. When it's abused in any case, it's wrong.

Taking out your childish anger on an entire profession is just pathetic, and as I said earlier I'd be very careful how you go about it. All you'll do is put yourself on their radar, and give them all the more reason to stop you whenever they can and make your life even more miserable than it obviously is right now.

And please, leave God out of any of your future arguments. I wouldn't presume to know what he wants or feels about it, but I do know that it makes you look kind of stupid when you spout of things that you don't really know too much about, or contradict things you've said earlier.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
Originally posted by: Injury
Police work is the single most dangerous line of work in the country.

While I truly respect your service, that statement is cliché:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/

Originally posted by: TallBill
You claim that you were picked on because you are poor.

Profiling? You betcha! However, so much depends on the officer and his/her mindset towards the prep. My roommate and I were detained by the State Police when we were freshmen for pulling pranks, but not arrested even though we should have been.

My advice to the OP is to let it go or it will eat you up inside.



Well in response to the "most dangerous" job thing, its tough to factor fights, altercations, and car chases, etc into the equation.

And you really missed the point I was making on profiling. All college students are poor, and even if they werren't its not like police check people's bank accounts.

And if you are gonna use the word "perp", dont spell it prep.
 

Flash1969

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
The truth is that the police pick on those that are easy targets.

Which is why for such a long time they abused black people. They also like to pickup young kids, and college students who dont know what to do, and have no money to fight anything.

The beating on black people got shut down though. And theres more to come to limit policy authority.

As much as people will dog on you for this statement, you are correct. When I was a teenager cops harassed me all the time. Now that I am older they always address me as "sir". Bottom line is for every one good cop there are at least 10 that abuse their power and can't wait to harass a teen.

And how many of them abandoned their job when the $hit hit the fan in New Orleans???



And, the couple of times I have needed them either they can't do anything or won't do anything. Worthless.
 

czech09

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: mwtgg
I am?

I assumed so from your sig.
But if not.. most christians would see it a greater crime to let someone starve than to steal.


"Thou shall not steal"

8th commandment...

You know your stuff don't you?

Or starving people to death is ok?

So the concentration camps where people were starved by the nazis, thats ok because theres no commandment stating "dont starve people"

and for them to steal food while starving is a grevious sin :disgust:
There are very bad christians out there who look at things your way.. and its totally wrong, a christian is a humanitarian.

I would question my faith if I were you. You seem quite confused. To be Christian does not imply being humanitarian, being Christian involves following the way of Christ and believing in the Holy Trinity to help guide you. There's quite a fine line between being humanitarian and being Christian. If you're Chrisitan, everything you do is for Christ and the Lord. Talk with a priest about this if you wish, I'm sure he'll confirm what I just said.

All in all, I think you are very confused at the moment. I have a few questions for you, why aren't you going to contest the charges against you if you say you're innocent? Police officers have cameras installed in their cars and if there were twelve as you stated one would have to have the whole situation on camera (maybe you could prove your innocence that way). What actions have you or your friend taken to contest these charges? Have you talked to anyone else about this? Were there any witnesses that might help your case?

I wish the best of luck to you but visit your priest, you seem to need some help - everyone does once in a while.
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
Originally posted by: Injury
Police work is the single most dangerous line of work in the country.

While I truly respect your service, that statement is cliché:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/

It's not cliche. The article you linked to says "The 10 most dangerous jobs by fatality rate are:"

Fatility rate really isn't the most accurate way to measure this. In police work, you have the factor of randomness because you really can't tell what a person is going to do. In most of the jobs listed, the fatalities are often the cause of running against procedure and not using proper safety equipment. Yeah, you can't blame all the deaths on that, but you can at least prevent it by following procedures. Like I said before, I don't care if a cop bangs you up a bit. I don't care if they have to cuff you or restrain you to feel safe. I care about the cop. Taking the risks out of their jobs protects their lives. Even if their work ISN'T the most dangerous, is it fair to say that they should be putting their lives directly in harm's way by not taking away the possibility of an incident?

Like I've said... if it were that big of an issue, OP would be talking to a lawyer instead of bitching to an internet forum.

(PS: My avatar is coicidental. I'm not a cop.)
 

Proletariat

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Wow there are a lot of people here that are 100 percent for the cops. Thats sorta wierd. Either you all have lived a very coddled life in bumfvck nowhere or there are very few police around where you live. Around here, there isn't much crime so the cops just spend all their time hassling kids about minor sh!t. You don't need 6 cop cars to deal with pot smokers, I'm sorry.

Thats not to say there aren't plenty of good cops who want to do their job and are doing a very good service to the community, but there are also many who like to abuse their power and like to see people squirm.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: czech09
Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: mwtgg
I am?

I assumed so from your sig.
But if not.. most christians would see it a greater crime to let someone starve than to steal.


"Thou shall not steal"

8th commandment...

You know your stuff don't you?

Or starving people to death is ok?

So the concentration camps where people were starved by the nazis, thats ok because theres no commandment stating "dont starve people"

and for them to steal food while starving is a grevious sin :disgust:
There are very bad christians out there who look at things your way.. and its totally wrong, a christian is a humanitarian.

I would question my faith if I were you. You seem quite confused. To be Christian does not imply being humanitarian, being Christian involves following the way of Christ and believing in the Holy Trinity to help guide you. There's quite a fine line between being humanitarian and being Christian. If you're Chrisitan, everything you do is for Christ and the Lord. Talk with a priest about this if you wish, I'm sure he'll confirm what I just said.

All in all, I think you are very confused at the moment. I have a few questions for you, why aren't you going to contest the charges against you if you say you're innocent? Police officers have cameras installed in their cars and if there were twelve as you stated one would have to have the whole situation on camera (maybe you could prove your innocence that way). What actions have you or your friend taken to contest these charges? Have you talked to anyone else about this? Were there any witnesses that might help your case?

I wish the best of luck to you but visit your priest, you seem to need some help - everyone does once in a while.

Why don't you talk with a religious scholar about what Christ actually said? Christians are supposed to be humanitarian, unfortunately the vast majority are not. Maybe because some of the clergy are themselves confused about Christianity's true meaning.
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: southpawuni
Arrested me for stupid BS.. when I was trying to do the RIGHT thing.

I'm not even going to go over it because theres a bunch of self rightous people here (like bradruth) who will say "yup but you broke the law NARF NARF NARF"

basically i was minding my own business, NOT drinking and driving because I dont do that. It wasnt just public intox so dont even assume.

One of my old tenats is: "who is the criminal, the person starving stealing bread, or the officer arresting her?"

something to think about.
and no, it doesnt apply to my situation directly, I didnt steal bread.
But its the same basic concept.

The person stealing the bread.

So let her starve.

You ARE a Christian arent you?
If he arrests her, she might end up in prison. She can get fed regularly there.

If she doesn't go to prison, she can keep on stealing bread.

What's the problem?

There are plenty of charities out there that is willing to help a person who is truly starving enough to bring them to theft. Theft is theft, no matter the reason. There's also always someone who needs to hire an extra set of hands. Not every job is a person's ideal job, but even if you are poor and starving you can flip burgers or stock shelves... hey, it gets you out of the cold for a while, too.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: southpawuni
Arrested me for stupid BS.. when I was trying to do the RIGHT thing.

I'm not even going to go over it because theres a bunch of self rightous people here (like bradruth) who will say "yup but you broke the law NARF NARF NARF"

basically i was minding my own business, NOT drinking and driving because I dont do that. It wasnt just public intox so dont even assume.

One of my old tenats is: "who is the criminal, the person starving stealing bread, or the officer arresting her?"

something to think about.
and no, it doesnt apply to my situation directly, I didnt steal bread.
But its the same basic concept.

The person stealing the bread.

So let her starve.

You ARE a Christian arent you?
If he arrests her, she might end up in prison. She can get fed regularly there.

If she doesn't go to prison, she can keep on stealing bread.

What's the problem?

There are plenty of charities out there that is willing to help a person who is truly starving enough to bring them to theft. Theft is theft, no matter the reason. There's also always someone who needs to hire an extra set of hands. Not every job is a person's ideal job, but even if you are poor and starving you can flip burgers or stock shelves... hey, it gets you out of the cold for a while, too.

"They don't have bread? Let them eat cake!"
 

fbrdphreak

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
that said, it never made me sad to hear someone dodged the police, or beat a cops ass, or even when a cop gets shot. I fully support the ACLU, the cops do abuse their power and what comes around...
You sir, are a fvcking jackass. YOU are the reason college students have a bad image. All cops aren't bad, just like all college students aren't bad. Overall, cops do a sh!tload more good for society than you have a chance at doing. Right now, you're just another drag on humanity. I hope that before you leave college (after six or seven years it would appear at this point), that you have grown and matured SOME before you have the chance to get into society.
 

HomeAppraiser

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Originally posted by: TallBill
And you really missed the point I was making on profiling. All college students are poor, and even if they werren't its not like police check people's bank accounts.

And if you are gonna use the word "perp", dont spell it prep.

What college did you go to where all the college students are poor? Mine was a large university that had the full spectrum of student wealth levels from the mac & cheese crowd to the kids that always wore Ralph Lauren and drove fully paid BMW M3's!!! I drove a hand me down Plymouth Valiant, who do you think got pulled over more? No income check needed.

And I take it that you have never gotten pulled over by some 19 year old cracker deputy sheriff for DWH, Driving While Hispanic or had pistol pulled on you at a traffic stop only to be told "Sorry, thought you were someone else."

No I have never been arrested or even gotten a ticket. I have never been pulled over in any of my new vehicles, but we have been plenty of times in the past and recently while driving older cars.

The macho attitude of cops who view it as their duty to put the down the disenfranchised has to stop.

Ticket for spelling right back at ya

I don't mean to get in anyone's face, but get real. Unless you are one of the privileged the chips are stacked against you in this world.

OK, I am done with my rant.
 

HomeAppraiser

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DENNIS (Michael Palin): "What I object to is that you automatically treat me like an inferior."
ARTHUR (Graham Chapman): "Well, I am king."
DENNIS: "Oh, king, eh? And how'd you get that? By exploiting the workers! By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society."

ARTHUR: "Shut up, will you. Shut up!" <Kicking Dennis>
DENNIS: "Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
ARTHUR: "Shut up!"
DENNIS: "Help! Help! I'm being repressed! Come see the violence inherent in the system! Violence inherent in the system!"
ARTHUR: "Bloody peasant!"

Before your time I guess?
 

stnicralisk

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: southpawuni
Originally posted by: LoKe
You can't call them Pigs, that's like me calling you a ******, it's verbal harassment. You can pull a sarcastic tone, but...if it's your university, you're best just leaving them alone.

I was planning on waiting till after I graduate

i'll find one alone when im with a bunch of people and say something like

"ya you are doing a good job! im sure you are pretty tough behind that badge, why dont you get a real job"

something of that nature

i always wanted to find a cop, have him take off that badge and go man-to-man when he cant hide behind it or his gun. cowards, i hope the ACLU or some organization just rapes the police someday.

1) You would like like an utter imbecile if you said "that"
2) Most likely he would beat your ass gladly

Or I'd beat your ass gladly. Most likely. :)


You must be a freshman. Youll never amount to anything in your life. Good luck in making better decisions in the future. I hope you do try to take on a police officer. I think youll be surprised when they pummel you faster than a box of crispy creams.