How do you view President Bush?

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fredtam

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: fredtam
I see him as above average. I see him as having a master plan that I think will be better for this country (even if it is devised by others). Unfortunately like someone's sig here says he just can't come out and say it because the average person is clueless and can't see 50 years down the road although the sig represents this in a negative light. Another unfortunate thing is this puts him in a position that you have to spin stuff and use cover stories which are sometimes easily picked apart making him look stupid or like a liar. When I think about the world I don't think of the one I live in but the one my daughter will see.

:laugh:


What is so funny?
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: fredtam
I see him as above average. I see him as having a master plan that I think will be better for this country (even if it is devised by others). Unfortunately like someone's sig here says he just can't come out and say it because the average person is clueless and can't see 50 years down the road although the sig represents this in a negative light. Another unfortunate thing is this puts him in a position that you have to spin stuff and use cover stories which are sometimes easily picked apart making him look stupid or like a liar. When I think about the world I don't think of the one I live in but the one my daughter will see.

:laugh:


What is so funny?

oh nothing...
 

yhelothar

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I think he's below average for a president.. but compared to an average american? Definately above average.
 
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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
I think he's below average for a president.. but compared to an average american? Definately above average.

I would go with this. His SAT scores were pretty decent, especially when compared against the population. However, his school grades were lacking...
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: fredtam
I see him as above average. I see him as having a master plan that I think will be better for this country (even if it is devised by others). Unfortunately like someone's sig here says he just can't come out and say it because the average person is clueless and can't see 50 years down the road although the sig represents this in a negative light. Another unfortunate thing is this puts him in a position that you have to spin stuff and use cover stories which are sometimes easily picked apart making him look stupid or like a liar. When I think about the world I don't think of the one I live in but the one my daughter will see.
I can agree with this viewpoint, but would you please share what you believe Bush's master plan is?

What has he done or plan on doing to help the future? How do you even know such a thing?

While I understand that Bush's actions now will certainly effect things in 50 years, we will have gone through a dozen more presidents by then.. Will it really even matter?

Is Bush Jr. really going to go down in history as being good for us?
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: homestarmy
Why the hell are we posting this in off topic?

:thumbsup:

take political polls to P&N
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WHY?

God damnit, this "P&N" sh!t pisses me off.
 

cronos

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Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: saxguy
i'm sure he's not as stupid as he looks, so i'll say average.

Oh, I think he is...

i still think he's not stupid. ignorant and lazy, yes. but not stupid.

however, i don't think that a lazy and ignorant president with average intelligence should be re-elected (or even elected in the first place, for that matter).
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: saxguy
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: saxguy
i'm sure he's not as stupid as he looks, so i'll say average.

Oh, I think he is...

i still think he's not stupid. ignorant and lazy, yes. but not stupid.

however, i don't think that a lazy and ignorant president with average intelligence should be re-elected (or even elected in the first place, for that matter).

Uhhh, he WASN'T?
 

phreakah

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Originally posted by: saxguy
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: saxguy
i'm sure he's not as stupid as he looks, so i'll say average.

Oh, I think he is...

i still think he's not stupid. ignorant and lazy, yes. but not stupid.

however, i don't think that a lazy and ignorant president with average intelligence should be re-elected (or even elected in the first place, for that matter).

he wasnt


edit: damn you brutuskend :p
 

cronos

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: saxguy
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: saxguy
i'm sure he's not as stupid as he looks, so i'll say average.

Oh, I think he is...

i still think he's not stupid. ignorant and lazy, yes. but not stupid.

however, i don't think that a lazy and ignorant president with average intelligence should be re-elected (or even elected in the first place, for that matter).

Uhhh, he WASN'T?

:thumbsup:

:D
 

alphatarget1

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Bush is just like any other politican, and most politicians are lying scumbags.

He's slightly below average IMO because of his intelligence (or lack thereof). Just because I don't agree with him on some things doesn't necessarily make him a bad person.
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: fredtam
I see him as above average. I see him as having a master plan that I think will be better for this country (even if it is devised by others). Unfortunately like someone's sig here says he just can't come out and say it because the average person is clueless and can't see 50 years down the road although the sig represents this in a negative light. Another unfortunate thing is this puts him in a position that you have to spin stuff and use cover stories which are sometimes easily picked apart making him look stupid or like a liar. When I think about the world I don't think of the one I live in but the one my daughter will see.
I can agree with this viewpoint, but would you please share what you believe Bush's master plan is?

What has he done or plan on doing to help the future? How do you even know such a thing?

While I understand that Bush's actions now will certainly effect things in 50 years, we will have gone through a dozen more presidents by then.. Will it really even matter?

Is Bush Jr. really going to go down in history as being good for us?


No really I can't tell you what the plan is. However I do see the beginnings of it and no 4 years or 8 may not be enough time. I can tell you what I see in trends although not in too much deatail because it would take forever. I'll show just one. In the next few decades Europe will be majority Muslim if trends continue. Now we here in America generally don't give a fvck because of our "freedom of religion" and walk around thinking that it is just radical Muslims who are bad. Well the fact is our religous beliefs do influence our opinions although the whole "seperation of church and state" idea has kept it for the most part out of our politics. The same can not be said for Muslim based societies. They are after all following the direct
word of God. I would hate to see a Europe that was majority muslim. For one thing it is much easier for people with common "enemies" to ally together. I wouldn't want a world that was truly "east against west".
I like my lifestyle and the attitude of the world tipped in my favor. Is it the right lifestyle? Are they (muslims) wrong? I don't care. I would like to see my philosophy prevail.

There are two things that the next world war is likely to be fought over. Religion or Race. Race doesn't seem likely so I'll watch the religous scene. Most ATOTers will say I am a biggot but they are the same ones saying that the religous right is ruining the country.
 

Pers

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: fredtam
I see him as above average. I see him as having a master plan that I think will be better for this country (even if it is devised by others). Unfortunately like someone's sig here says he just can't come out and say it because the average person is clueless and can't see 50 years down the road although the sig represents this in a negative light. Another unfortunate thing is this puts him in a position that you have to spin stuff and use cover stories which are sometimes easily picked apart making him look stupid or like a liar. When I think about the world I don't think of the one I live in but the one my daughter will see.
I can agree with this viewpoint, but would you please share what you believe Bush's master plan is?

What has he done or plan on doing to help the future? How do you even know such a thing?

While I understand that Bush's actions now will certainly effect things in 50 years, we will have gone through a dozen more presidents by then.. Will it really even matter?

Is Bush Jr. really going to go down in history as being good for us?


No really I can't tell you what the plan is. However I do see the beginnings of it and no 4 years or 8 may not be enough time. I can tell you what I see in trends although not in too much deatail because it would take forever. I'll show just one. In the next few decades Europe will be majority Muslim if trends continue. Now we here in America generally don't give a fvck because of our "freedom of religion" and walk around thinking that it is just radical Muslims who are bad. Well the fact is our religous beliefs do influence our opinions although the whole "seperation of church and state" idea has kept it for the most part out of our politics. The same can not be said for Muslim based societies. They are after all following the direct
word of God. I would hate to see a Europe that was majority muslim. For one thing it is much easier for people with common "enemies" to ally together. I wouldn't want a world that was truly "east against west".
I like my lifestyle and the attitude of the world tipped in my favor. Is it the right lifestyle? Are they (muslims) wrong? I don't care. I would like to see my philosophy prevail.

There are two things that the next world war is likely to be fought over. Religion or Race. Race doesn't seem likely so I'll watch the religous scene. Most ATOTers will say I am a biggot but they are the same ones saying that the religous right is ruining the country.

haha...it's no longer a wonder why you think bush is smart.
 
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Average. Of cours,e I've been drining all night...sooooo, my opinion could be a bit sway ed by the fact that right now I don't care a damn. :)