How do we feel about papa joe this far into his presidency, would you vote for him in reelection?

[K1052]

You also cant have a single family housing development in the middle of a downtown area as it is impracticable to have a your home adjacent to a 90 story high rise and the infrastructure can be optimized for one or the other type of development.

I do sometimes wonder if some of you people have ever actually set foot in some of America's largest cities.

 

[brycejones]

LOL

I do sometimes wonder if some of you people have ever actually set foot in some of America's largest cities.

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@FelixDeCat really?

 

[blackangst1]

I do sometimes wonder if some of you people have ever actually set foot in some of America's largest cities.

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I have

 

[K1052]

I have

from your computer doesn't count

https://azbigmedia.com/business/the...essness-crime-surge-goldwater-demands-action/

 

[fskimospy]

from your computer doesn't count

https://azbigmedia.com/business/the...essness-crime-surge-goldwater-demands-action/

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Lol.

 

[fskimospy]

It is funny how people who live in rural areas or suburbs try to tell people like me who actually live in cities how horrible it is to live in a city.

 

[pmv]

Maybe my perspective is based on limited experience but then my question would be what your perspective is based on.

Well, on a _different_ collection of limited experiences! Not least, living through Thatcherism and witnessing the destruction of the trade union movement and the effects that has had.

It's true, though, that some of the pre-Thatcher stories I heard suggest this isn't far from the truth of how it worked in the good-old-days.

On the other hand, now we have this

Deadlock over NHS pay putting patients in danger, chief nurses warn

Unions say government making no moves to resolve dispute as staff in England prepare for biggest strikes in service’s history

www.theguardian.com

 

[fskimospy]

Well, on a _different_ collection of limited experiences! Not least, living through Thatcherism and witnessing the destruction of the trade union movement and the effects that has had.

It's true, though, that some of the pre-Thatcher stories I heard suggest this isn't far from the truth of how it worked in the good-old-days.

On the other hand, now we have this

Deadlock over NHS pay putting patients in danger, chief nurses warn

Unions say government making no moves to resolve dispute as staff in England prepare for biggest strikes in service’s history

www.theguardian.com

Think what you want, I’m fine with that, but don’t impugn actual experience while you don’t have any of your own.

 

[brycejones]

I have

And you wonder why some here dare to call you dishonest. Lol

 

[brycejones]

It is funny how people who live in rural areas or suburbs try to tell people like me who actually live in cities how horrible it is to live in a city.

A completely overlapping ven diagram of those who believe rural areas subsidize urban areas.

 

[NWRMidnight]

WUT

Border policies have nothing to do with Biden policies?

PASS THE PIPE BRO!

Actually, not really, as Biden's boarder policies are following the law... Biden does not make the laws.. talk to your representative in Congress, as they are the ones you need to be bitching about/too.,

Correct. But his response to fsk was correct. The illegal immigration proposal to putting illegal immigrants in motels is a Biden issue. The rest, in other words the other issues regarding homelessness, were 100% correct.


Neither party cartes about that particular issue. But that wasnt Felix's point overall.

No, it's a Congress issue. You don't like it, then you need to get Congress to change the laws. The problem is you have been fine with the previous boarder policies because many of them failed to actually follow the law as it is written. Well, hell, some of them actually violated the constitution, as everyone under the constitution has the right to due process, this includes immigrants.

 

[MrSquished]

I have

This is why you are still pretty ignorant, and the most ignorant people in America come from x urban and rural places. They vote with evil.

 

[FelixDeCat]

I do sometimes wonder if some of you people have ever actually set foot in some of America's largest cities.

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You need to use some logic. In your example, you will notice the brownstone building appears to be much older than the high rise next to it. That would indicate it was once a residential neighborhood that is now mixed use.

In the example I was citing in order to show proper zoning for new residential development, building single family homes in the middle of a downtown area this is what I was envisioning:




Im not sure anyone can disagree this is inappropriate.

 

[Meghan54]

You need to use some logic. In your example, you will notice the brownstone building appears to be much older than the high rise next to it. That would indicate it was once a residential neighborhood that is now mixed use.

In the example I was citing in order to show proper zoning for new residential development, building single family homes in the middle of a downtown area this is what I was envisioning:

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Im not sure anyone can disagree this is inappropriate.

Why? Be precise with the rationale why it’s “wrong.”

 

[fskimospy]

You need to use some logic. In your example, you will notice the brownstone building appears to be much older than the high rise next to it. That would indicate it was once a residential neighborhood that is now mixed use.

In the example I was citing in order to show proper zoning for new residential development, building single family homes in the middle of a downtown area this is what I was envisioning:

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Im not sure anyone can disagree this is inappropriate.

Why would it be inappropriate? Do you know what a city is?

 

[pmv]

Think what you want, I’m fine with that, but don’t impugn actual experience while you don’t have any of your own.

Not impugning anything, just suggesting that if your experiences have lead you to to conclude that the British Medical Association or the Royal College of Nursing, or, even, back in the '80s, the National Union of Mineworkers, should all be/have been declared illegal (something even Thatcher never tried) you are maybe jumping to an extreme position.

 

[pmv]

You need to use some logic. In your example, you will notice the brownstone building appears to be much older than the high rise next to it. That would indicate it was once a residential neighborhood that is now mixed use.

In the example I was citing in order to show proper zoning for new residential development, building single family homes in the middle of a downtown area this is what I was envisioning:

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Im not sure anyone can disagree this is inappropriate.

You seem to be mistaking a cultural judgement with an objective and universal one.
Rigid zoning with regard to density is a particularly American tradition. That sort of juxtaposition is not uncommon elsewhere in the world.

I mean, I'm really struggling to understand what this argument is about, because development rules are wildly different in different countries, and the US seems to be on the extreme end, as far as I can make out, with all this rigid 'zoning' stuff. The UK seems to be at the other extreme, insofar as we don't really have 'zoning' at all, it's all just a hotch-potch of local-authorities arguing over each development on a case-by-case basis.

But even countries like Germany and France, that have some elements of US-style 'zoning' don't seem to make a fetish out of residential density. That seems a peculiarly-American concern.

 

[fskimospy]

Not impugning anything, just suggesting that if your experiences have lead you to to conclude that the British Medical Association or the Royal College of Nursing, or, even, back in the '80s, the National Union of Mineworkers, should all be/have been declared illegal (something even Thatcher never tried) you are maybe jumping to an extreme position.

What about my position do you think is wrong on the merits, specifically?

 

[MrSquished]

What about my position do you think is wrong on the merits, specifically?

I already explained how you could reform public unions, and your only response was - total ban. my experience. total ban. that's it. black or white.

 

[fskimospy]

I already explained how you could reform public unions, and your only response was - total ban. my experience. total ban. that's it. black or white.

My response was that your reform did not address the problem that I identified, which it didn’t.

 

[K1052]

You need to use some logic. In your example, you will notice the brownstone building appears to be much older than the high rise next to it. That would indicate it was once a residential neighborhood that is now mixed use.

The uses of the two buildings are exactly the same.

 

[pmv]

What about my position do you think is wrong on the merits, specifically?

Well, for starters, that if you ban unions, a right-wing government is that much more able to destroy the entire public health or public education system, in order to allow its friends to make money out of it.

I mean, the interests of certain classes of worker can be different in different circumstances - teachers can ruthlessly look out for themselves at the expense of the community they serve, likewise doctors in a state healthcare system. But it's not always that way, often those unions are _defending_ those communities. To just say they are always negative and so should be banned is a one-sided extreme position.

 

[fskimospy]

You seem to be mistaking a cultural judgement with an objective and universal one.
Rigid zoning with regard to density is a particularly American tradition. That sort of juxtaposition is not uncommon elsewhere in the world.

I mean, I'm really struggling to understand what this argument is about, because development rules are wildly different in different countries, and the US seems to be on the extreme end, as far as I can make out, with all this rigid 'zoning' stuff. The UK seems to be at the other extreme, insofar as we don't really have 'zoning' at all, it's all just a hotch-potch of local-authorities arguing over each development on a case-by-case basis.

But even countries like Germany and France, that have some elements of US-style 'zoning' don't seem to make a fetish out of residential density. That seems a peculiarly-American concern.

It’s not an American tradition, the UK is being destroyed by exactly the same thing.

 

[fskimospy]

Well, for starters, that if you ban unions, a right-wing government is that much more able to destroy the entire public health or public education system, in order to allow its friends to make money out of it.

So the idea is we need public sector unions as political allies? That’s not much of an argument for them on the merits.

 

[fskimospy]

Well, for starters, that if you ban unions, a right-wing government is that much more able to destroy the entire public health or public education system, in order to allow its friends to make money out of it.

I mean, the interests of certain classes of worker can be different in different circumstances - teachers can ruthlessly look out for themselves at the expense of the community they serve, likewise doctors in a state healthcare system. But it's not always that way, often those unions are _defending_ those communities. To just say they are always negative and so should be banned is a one-sided extreme position.

My exact point is they aren’t defending those communities - they are hurting them. The UFT is not defending the most marginalized communities of New York, they are screwing them, all while pretending otherwise.