How do we feel about papa joe this far into his presidency, would you vote for him in reelection?

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Pens1566

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Do you seriously believe pausing and trying to find the right wording is a short circuit? Holly shit dude! I really want to say you are grasping at straws.. but really, you are grasping at the air.
Yeah, I do this all the time as a highly functioning middle aged dude. It happens because what I say in those situations has ramifications, and needs to be precise, exact, and defensible. If it's not, losing my job is the least of my worries. I can imagine that's even more of an issue for the leader of the free world.

Maybe people that don't understand that simply haven't ever been in a position where what they say is important?
 

JD50

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Yeah, I do this all the time as a highly functioning middle aged dude. It happens because what I say in those situations has ramifications, and needs to be precise, exact, and defensible. If it's not, losing my job is the least of my worries. I can imagine that's even more of an issue for the leader of the free world.

Maybe people that don't understand that simply haven't ever been in a position where what they say is important?
Yep exactly, I've done this plenty of times at work in just one on one non fucking televised conversations and I'm no one important really.
 
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fskimospy

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Lol what? He took literally 5 seconds to gather his thoughts in the middle of an interview, this is what you're worried about? You know what happens when you don't stop to gather your thoughts and just ramble on endlessly making no sense? Person woman man camera tv.
At this point he and other conservatives have absolutely convinced themselves that Biden has dementia. Because of this they think every time he stumbles over words or pauses this is further evidence that others must accept. The idea that he and other conservatives are victims of confirmation bias is apparently not an option.

It would be funny if someone deepfaked up a video of Biden saying one of Trump’s speeches word for word. I bet the ‘Biden has dementia’ crew would be all over that. That Trump ‘nuclear uncle’ speech alone would get them howling for the 25th amendment.
 

eelw

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Okay let’s play along. Biden is indeed sleepy Joe. At least he surrounded himself with competent people that if they truly need to 25A him, they will. The orange monkey butt kissers rather let the country crumble rather that doing their duty to the country
 
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Pens1566

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At this point he and other conservatives have absolutely convinced themselves that Biden has dementia. Because of this they think every time he stumbles over words or pauses this is further evidence that others must accept. The idea that he and other conservatives are victims of confirmation bias is apparently not an option.

It would be funny if someone deepfaked up a video of Biden saying one of Trump’s speeches word for word. I bet the ‘Biden has dementia’ crew would be all over that. That Trump ‘nuclear uncle’ speech alone would get them howling for the 25th amendment.
And they ignore the "Biden w/dementia managed to get 7M+ more votes, and is more successful in his term than TFG so what does that say about TFG?" angle completely.
 
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fskimospy

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And they ignore the "Biden w/dementia managed to get 7M+ more votes, and is more successful in his term than TFG so what does that say about TFG?" angle completely.
Yes, I think I've mentioned before how 'Biden is demented' might not be the killer argument they think it is because then they have to explain why the demented guy has been kicking their ass up and down the field for the last 2+ years. If you can't beat a brain damaged guy it's hard to see why we should put you in charge of anything.
 

MrSquished

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Lol what? He took literally 5 seconds to gather his thoughts in the middle of an interview, this is what you're worried about? You know what happens when you don't stop to gather your thoughts and just ramble on endlessly making no sense? Person woman man camera tv.
And to make this even more sad, is he voted for Trump TWICE - and that motherfucker was a word salad dumb idea machine - but a 5 second pause has got his hypocritical panties in a bunch.
 
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nOOky

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Biden stutters and sometimes has to take time to craft his responses, or messes up from time to time. I consider myself to be somewhat educated and I have a decent command of the English language. Put me in front of a group, and I sound like an idiot, Biden makes me sound ridiculous by comparison.
 

blackangst1

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And to make this even more sad, is he voted for Trump TWICE - and that motherfucker was a word salad dumb idea machine - but a 5 second pause has got his hypocritical panties in a bunch.
For the record, I didnt vote for Trump once. He's a tool.
 
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mindless1

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At least his username is highly accurate.

Old people supporting the GOP who pledges to gut Medicare is an all-time self pwnage if it happens.
This is where the disparity lies, that it is idiotic to fully support what either party wants, because this has become a ridiculous game of extremism without consideration of the best interests of the majority.

It's just plain stupid to pick either party and blindly support whatever that party wants. In sad way this makes it fortunate that the party in control changes every now and then, so things don't get too lopsided.

At the same time, there are obviously many in this forum who want communism, because it works so well for countries that have it! They believe the lies, because unicorns.
 
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mindless1

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A vote for trump isn't necessarily endorsing that tool/fool, rather it is just a vote to not have this ridiculous liberal crap. I've wrote it before and now again, if i had to vote for a cardboard box vs liberal crap, I'd rather we had a cardboard box as president.

Biden is a senile idiot. He comes across as an angry (fearfull) dumbass who would threaten if he could get away with it. He was never capable and didn't get better as he aged. The only way he got elected was trump was also incompetent due to no social skills, and social media was blown up with tards who have no idea about reality because they spend their life watching social media crap.

I did not vote for trump last time, but given the checks and balances over what has transpired in the last year+, again I'd rather vote for a cardboard box as president rather than trump, but it beats Biden, all day long. Biden is a retarded idiot for trying to push the green agenda at the tail end of covid, when the last thing that america needs is extreme increase in food and energy/fuel/etc prices. We need a recovery period before that happens.

It takes a real dumbass to try to cripple a society like that.
 

Fenixgoon

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A vote for trump isn't necessarily endorsing that tool/fool, rather it is just a vote to not have this ridiculous liberal crap. I've wrote it before and now again, if i had to vote for a cardboard box vs liberal crap, I'd rather we had a cardboard box as president.

Biden is a senile idiot. He comes across as an angry (fearfull) dumbass who would threaten if he could get away with it. He was never capable and didn't get better as he aged. The only way he got elected was trump was also incompetent due to no social skills, and social media was blown up with tards who have no idea about reality because they spend their life watching social media crap.

I did not vote for trump last time, but given the checks and balances over what has transpired in the last year+, again I'd rather vote for a cardboard box as president rather than trump, but it beats Biden, all day long. Biden is a retarded idiot for trying to push the green agenda at the tail end of covid, when the last thing that america needs is extreme increase in food and energy/fuel/etc prices. We need a recovery period before that happens.

It takes a real dumbass to try to cripple a society like that.
define ridiculous liberal crap that's be dominating federal governance.

student debt relief?
support for ukraine?
women's rights to bodily autonomy? (which shouldn't even be a fucking thing but here we are)
clean energy initiatives?
investment in domestic infrastructure and manufacturing capability?
inflation performance that is far superior to other countries around the world?
 

NWRMidnight

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A vote for trump isn't necessarily endorsing that tool/fool, rather it is just a vote to not have this ridiculous liberal crap. I've wrote it before and now again, if i had to vote for a cardboard box vs liberal crap, I'd rather we had a cardboard box as president.

Biden is a senile idiot. He comes across as an angry (fearfull) dumbass who would threaten if he could get away with it. He was never capable and didn't get better as he aged. The only way he got elected was trump was also incompetent due to no social skills, and social media was blown up with tards who have no idea about reality because they spend their life watching social media crap.

I did not vote for trump last time, but given the checks and balances over what has transpired in the last year+, again I'd rather vote for a cardboard box as president rather than trump, but it beats Biden, all day long. Biden is a retarded idiot for trying to push the green agenda at the tail end of covid, when the last thing that america needs is extreme increase in food and energy/fuel/etc prices. We need a recovery period before that happens.

It takes a real dumbass to try to cripple a society like that.
To bad you don't have the first clue on why food, energy, fuel, etc has increased. If you did, you would understand that it has very little to do with the current administration. But once again, you prove your user name to be accurate, as you are as mindless as ever. Which is why you believe the liberals are bad no matter what, and also believe the only reason Trump lost is because of "social skills"..
 
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fskimospy

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A vote for trump isn't necessarily endorsing that tool/fool, rather it is just a vote to not have this ridiculous liberal crap. I've wrote it before and now again, if i had to vote for a cardboard box vs liberal crap, I'd rather we had a cardboard box as president.

Biden is a senile idiot. He comes across as an angry (fearfull) dumbass who would threaten if he could get away with it. He was never capable and didn't get better as he aged. The only way he got elected was trump was also incompetent due to no social skills, and social media was blown up with tards who have no idea about reality because they spend their life watching social media crap.

I did not vote for trump last time, but given the checks and balances over what has transpired in the last year+, again I'd rather vote for a cardboard box as president rather than trump, but it beats Biden, all day long. Biden is a retarded idiot for trying to push the green agenda at the tail end of covid, when the last thing that america needs is extreme increase in food and energy/fuel/etc prices. We need a recovery period before that happens.

It takes a real dumbass to try to cripple a society like that.
I would be interested to know what specific policies Biden has enacted that you disagree with.
 

MrSquished

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I thought Biden was a child molestor?

Republican Ralph Shortey, Donald Trump's Oklahoma campaign chair and former Oklahoma state senator, was indicted on four counts of human trafficking and child pornography. He plead guilty to child sex trafficking.

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-s-oklahoma-campaign-chair-plead-guilt-child-sex-trafficking-n822461?fbclid=IwAR142W77Q5Dan71BsxC_5uH8h1BBA4EGyqP_VMsrx7lSvoPX9Njjvt0oHK0

Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert was indicted on federal charges of structuring bank withdrawals after prosecutors alleged Hastert had molested at least four boys as young as 14 and attempted to compensate his victims and subsequently conceal the transactions. Hastert eventually admitted that he sexually abused the boys whom he had coached decades earlier, and was sentenced to fifteen months in prison.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/us/dennis-hastert-released.html

Republican Tim Nolan, chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in Kentucky, pled guilty to child sex trafficking and on February 11, 2018 he was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/05/03/former-judge-tim-nolan-could-sentenced-today-more-drama-could-get-way/577947002/

Republican congressman Mark Foley, in charge of the congressional caucus dealing with exploited children and predominant anti-gay politician, caught sexually harassing 16 year old page boys working under him.

https://www.cc.com/video/u1k1hb/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-headlines-foley-erect

Republican Pennsylvania State Senator, Mike Folmer, arrested and convicted of child pornography charges.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Folmer

Republican Minnesota State Representative Jim Knoblach Drops Out Of Race After Daughter Says He Molested Her For More Than Ten Years 22 Sep 2018

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/22/lawmaker-quits-race-after-daughter-says-he-molested-her-more-than-decade/?utm_term=.8ac8527c7f43

Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/sops/flyer.jsf?personId=28587

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

http://www.lanternproject.org.uk/library/child-abuse-arrests-and-court-cases/child-abuse-arrests-trials-and-proceedings/ex-county-commissioner-admits-sexual-abuse-of-girl/

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20120426/NEWS90/204260334

Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_Misla_Aldarondo

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Giordano

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

http://archive.easyreadernews.com/archives/news2001/0621/rb Shortridge.php

Republican Senator Strom Thurmond, a notable racist, had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond

Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/18/nyregion/embroiled-first-selectman-takes-leave.html

Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

https://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/25/us/teen-ager-in-ohio-testifies-to-sex-with-a-congressman.html

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2003/04/24/gop-activist-admits-to-child-porn/5af2adf0-bec8-4a10-b061-014de679422a/?utm_term=.d7ebcbf4f92b

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

http://www.thenewblackmagazine.com/view.aspx?index=437

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

https://www.westword.com/news/randy-ankeney-suit-that-could-free-thousands-of-prisoners-headed-to-state-supreme-court-6054115

Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Crane

Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

https://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/02/opinion/journal-beverly-russell-s-prayers.html

Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bauman

Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

http://www.njherald.com/article/20060510/ARTICLE/305109971

Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

https://www.arktimes.com/TheHoglawyer/archives/2007/08/28/the-latest-republican-sex-scandals-plural---more-of-the-same

Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/06/us/politics-the-senate-maine-candidate-again-faces-1990-child-sex-accusation.html

Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

http://www.thedp.com/article/2004/01/brother_stephen_convicted_of_soliciting_sex

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

https://www.houstonpress.com/news/jon-matthews-conservative-talk-show-host-and-sex-offender-pulled-from-kpfts-prison-show-6740755

Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

https://culteducation.com/group/1255-false-memories/6514-man-in-notorious-sex-case-finishes-term.html

Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

https://www.semissourian.com/story/57773.html

Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

https://www.arktimes.com/TheHoglawyer/archives/2007/08/28/the-latest-republican-sex-scandals-plural---more-of-the-same

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

http://www.chattanoogan.com/2002/6/21/23202/Tennessee-Legislator-Commits-Suicide.aspx

24 pages more here - https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/4/28/2028057/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-24
 

dphantom

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no, early unset demential is a sad thing to see. father in law went that way, very tough. :cry:

hoping for new blood, younger, enough of these 70-80 year olds. bring on fresh young faces with new ideas
 

Puffnstuff

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I'd vote for stuffed animal before I'd vote for any R for president but at the same time I refuse to vote for anyone who's way to far the left. My wallet is more important than gay rights or green energy.
 
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IronWing

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I'd vote for stuffed animal before I'd vote for any R for president but at the same time I refuse to vote for anyone who's way to far the left. My wallet is more important than gay rights or green energy.
Well then, you’re in luck as there are no leftists running. Bernie is as far left as they come in current politics and he’s a moderate new deal liberal.
 

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