How do people eat so much?

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ShawnD1

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It's a sad state of affairs that some people are too stupid to figure that out.
I thought people knew this and just pretended to be stupid, then I realized people really are that stupid.
Dog is overweight --> feed the dog less food --> dog loses weight.
Human is overweight --> "diets don't work!!"
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Thyroid disorders are very real. They say roughly 1/10 women will have a thyroid disorder in their lifetime. The cause is usually autoimmune (ie your body confuses thyroid cells with an infection and tries to destroy it), though there are other causes.
My gf's sister has this. They noticed something was wrong when she started eating more and more food but she was losing weight very quickly. That's a bad sign.


(in response to my saying lack of exercise is why their thyroid is fucked)
And you're a fucking retard. Do a little research before you post.
Your ignorance is painful. Please do not have children.

http://www.nel.edu/26-2005_6_pdf/NEL260605A14_Ciloglu.pdf
BACKGROUND: Physical activity influences energy metabolism in human subjects
by increasing activity-induced energy expenditure and resting metabolic rate for
several hours after exercise. Effects of exercise on circulating thyroid hormone
values remain controversial. We have investigated the effect of acute aerobic
exercise on thyroid hormone values.

MATERIALS/METHODS: The effect of different intensity levels of acute aerobic
exercise on thyroid hormones was investigated in 60 male well-trained athletes
by performing bicycle ergometer at 45% (low intensity), 70% (moderate intensity),
and 90% (high intensity). These intensities were selected according to their
maximum heart rate (MHR). At each intensity level, heart rate, blood lactic acid,
serum total thyroxine (T4), free thyroxine (fT4), total triiodothyronine (T3),
free triiodothyronine (fT3) and thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH) values were
measured.

RESULTS: The results of this study show that exercise performed at the anaerobic
threshold (70% of maximum heart rate, lactate level 4.59 ± 1.75 mmol/l) caused
the most prominent changes in the amount of any hormone values.
While the
rate of T4, fT4, and TSH continued to rise at 90% of maximum heart rate, the rate
of T3 and fT3 started to fall.
CONCLUSIONS: Maximal aerobic exercise greatly affects the level of circulating
thyroid hormones.

Well holy shit, it's almost like being a fat slob is directly responsible for things like hormone problems, depression, and diabetes. Try going for a jog before you post. It might makes your posts less retarded.
 

Capt Caveman

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I thought people knew this and just pretended to be stupid, then I realized people really are that stupid.
Dog is overweight --> feed the dog less food --> dog loses weight.
Human is overweight --> "diets don't work!!"

My gf's sister has this. They noticed something was wrong when she started eating more and more food but she was losing weight very quickly. That's a bad sign.



Your ignorance is painful. Please do not have children.

http://www.nel.edu/26-2005_6_pdf/NEL260605A14_Ciloglu.pdf


Well holy shit, it's almost like being a fat slob is directly responsible for things like hormone problems, depression, and diabetes. Try going for a jog before you post. It might makes your posts less retarded.

More retarded posting. And how does this mean that you will have a normally functioning thyroid? Exercise/diet helps but is not a reason nor a cure. Yes, please do not have children. Your posts here, in the Garage, L&R are some of the most ignorant/stupid posts I've read here.

So, retard. I run marathons, eat healthy and still have hypothyroidism(discovered it while training for a marathon). I know a girl who was a college athlete and now participates in fitness competitions and has hypothyroidism. My sister-in-law lives a healthy lifestyle exercises regularly and has hypothryoidism. Are you telling us that we can stop taking levothyroxine and our thyroid levels will be normal?

Again stop posting your crap in every forum here. Here learn something - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001393/
 
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ShawnD1

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More retarded posting. And how does this mean that you will have a normally functioning thyroid?

So, retard. I run marathons, eat healthy and still have hypothyroidism. I know a girl who was a college athlete and participates in fitness competitions and has hypothyroidism. Are you telling us that we can stop taking levothyroxine and our thyroid levels will be normal?

Again stop posting your crap in every forum here. Here learn something - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001393/

You totally nailed it. About 60% of Americans have Hashimotos or Graves disease. I'm sure that's a lot more accurate than saying Americans are just lazy.
 

Capt Caveman

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You totally nailed it. About 60% of Americans have Hashimotos or Graves disease. I'm sure that's a lot more accurate than saying Americans are just lazy.

From my link -

Prevention

There is no prevention for hypothyroidism.

Again, stop posting.

edit - And before treating my hypothyroidism, I was losing weight. I could tell you why but I'm sure you would be able to comprehend.
 
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ShawnD1

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Muscles tend to be alive
Things that are alive consume energy.
More things that are alive consume more energy
I've heard this is wrong since super skinny starving Africans are very weak due to a lack of muscle. :hmm:
Alright so let's look at the facts:
-weight is not affected by food (people say diets don't work)
-weight is not affected by muscle (starving Africans have no muscle but are still skinny)

I hate to admit it, but I think Capt Caveman is right. America's obesity epidemic is caused by hypothyroidism affecting more than half the population. As Capt Caveman has already stated, there is no way to prevent hypothyroidism, so what is causing it? God is causing it. This is what you get for making abortion legal in your country. You're all going straight to hell. Your first punishment in hell is that hell is at the top floor of the WTC and you'll be required to take the stairs to the top floor. Then air planes will fly into the building, you will die, and you will need to start over again. This will go on for eternity. May god have mercy on your fat soul.
 

janas19

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I've heard this is wrong since super skinny starving Africans are very weak due to a lack of muscle. :hmm:
Alright so let's look at the facts:
-weight is not affected by food (people say diets don't work)
-weight is not affected by muscle (starving Africans have no muscle but are still skinny)

I hate to admit it, but I think Capt Caveman is right. America's obesity epidemic is caused by hypothyroidism affecting more than half the population. As Capt Caveman has already stated, there is no way to prevent hypothyroidism, so what is causing it? God is causing it. This is what you get for making abortion legal in your country. You're all going straight to hell. Your first punishment in hell is that hell is at the top floor of the WTC and you'll be required to take the stairs to the top floor. Then air planes will fly into the building, you will die, and you will need to start over again. This will go on for eternity. May god have mercy on your fat soul.

WHATTT. :confused:
 

SlitheryDee

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How much more? I mean, I lift weights, dislike long cardio activities (running mostly, biking is fun). Is there a possible way to measure your metabolism?

I think there's a general rule of thumb regarding how much muscle mass is adding to your metabolism. Something like 50 calories per day per pound of muscle beyond a certain amount. Don't hold me to that though.
 

Sunburn74

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Is it really possible to get a higher metabolism by gaining muscle? I'd never heard this.

It is alledged that your calorie needs per day increases by 50 cal per lb of muscle mass you gain. I don't know if there is an upper cap. I would think not, when I consider how NFL players have to eat just to maintain their figures.

I personally hate cardio, but I find the stairmaster machine pretty cool and fun to use (i like the idea of knowing if I had to walk all 100+ floors of the empire state building, I could do it without having to stop) and occasionally will walk laps in a pool with the water being the resistance.
 

Thebobo

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I've heard this is wrong since super skinny starving Africans are very weak due to a lack of muscle. :hmm:
Alright so let's look at the facts:
-weight is not affected by food (people say diets don't work)
-weight is not affected by muscle (starving Africans have no muscle but are still skinny)

I hate to admit it, but I think Capt Caveman is right. America's obesity epidemic is caused by hypothyroidism affecting more than half the population. As Capt Caveman has already stated, there is no way to prevent hypothyroidism, so what is causing it? God is causing it. This is what you get for making abortion legal in your country. You're all going straight to hell. Your first punishment in hell is that hell is at the top floor of the WTC and you'll be required to take the stairs to the top floor. Then air planes will fly into the building, you will die, and you will need to start over again. This will go on for eternity. May god have mercy on your fat soul.

LOL
 

Mr. Pedantic

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From my link -



Again, stop posting.

edit - And before treating my hypothyroidism, I was losing weight. I could tell you why but I'm sure you would be able to comprehend.
Actually, worldwide, hypothyroidism is most commonly caused by iodine deficiency and it is in fact, one of if not the most common cause(s) of mental disability in the world. In the US, however, I doubt it would do much.
 

Svnla

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In my own personal experience: Calories in > calories usage = weight gain.

<<---is losing weight slowing by cutting back on soda < Coke..yummy> and walk more....and need to get back to the gym.
 

Sunburn74

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genetics do play a roll.

Also, OP is looking at calorie count, not actual food mass intake.
Most people eat until they feel full. That's not a quotient of how many caories are there, it's about how large the portion is.

I have to disagree strongly. The role of genetics is over-exaggerated. In the last 50 years we have had an explosion of obesity and diabetes pretty much across the world. How much of that do you attribute to actual tangible,evolutionary changes in the human genome?
 

crownjules

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I have to disagree strongly. The role of genetics is over-exaggerated. In the last 50 years we have had an explosion of obesity and diabetes pretty much across the world. How much of that do you attribute to actual tangible,evolutionary changes in the human genome?

Agreed. It's more about people eating shitting quality food - loaded with bad fats or carbohydrates. Carbs are processed by the body faster leading you to feel hungry again sooner than if you had eaten something higher in protein/fats. You can thank the "Low Fat" diet craze for a lot of this. Fat became synonymous with becoming fat. Most stuff that's marketed as no/low fat is loaded with sugars to make up for the flavor lost from having no fat.
 

hanoverphist

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i have no excuse. i dont eat much fast food anymore, ive changed over to higher fiber/ protein food and stuff like that. unfortunately, i cant get myself to use the smaller plates i bought to help control my portion sizes. thats my downfall every time. oh, and working out of town is killing me, i get bored and eat in the hotel room too much. im not nearly as active as i was when i loaded trucks for a living, nor when i was pulling electrical cabling/ wire. so, im to blame for my dunlop. ill deal with it tho.
 

BoberFett

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I have to disagree strongly. The role of genetics is over-exaggerated. In the last 50 years we have had an explosion of obesity and diabetes pretty much across the world. How much of that do you attribute to actual tangible,evolutionary changes in the human genome?

One's genetics does determine how fat one will get at any given food intake, so yes genetics is heavily involved. But it's also one's responsibility to determine that one's genetics is making oneself a fatass, and cut back on intake.

A person can blame genetics all they want, but it's their own damn fault for not maintaining a lifestyle compatible with their genetics. I can blame genetics all I want that I wasn't born 7' tall so I can play basketball, but that doesn't mean they're going to lower the hoop for me.
 

Muse

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Seriously. I ate what I thought was a considerable amount today (two bagels + cream cheese = ~700 calories, protein bar = ~250 calories, soda = ~300 calories, and Chipotle burrito = ~700 calories) but that still only touched the supposed normal 2000. Granted, I don't exercise so I won't judge athletes and construction workers and other physically active individuals, but HTF do others manage to eat so much? Do you people live on candy and frappuccinos and shit? Not that I'm saying more than 2000 is necessarily a lot either, but I am seriously confused as to how a physically inactive individual manages to eat 3000/4000+ calories every day. o_O

EDIT: Title changed from "How do people get fat?".
They stuff their mutherfucking faces. There's no other conclusion possible.
 

slayernine

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Do you think I eat too much? I find skipping meals just makes me over eat to a greater extent.

Breakfast:
Bacon McGriddle
Large Mocha

Lunch:
Apple Juice
Foot long pizza sub

Dinner:
Innis & Gunn edit: This is a beer
Honey Garlic Wings
 

janas19

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They stuff their mutherfucking faces. There's no other conclusion possible.

I feel like this thread is going in circles. I would like to re-iterate something: there are lots of skinny people who eat like pigs, yet do not gain weight. Storage of calories as body fat has just as much to do with genetics as eating habits.
 

momeNt

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Do you think I eat too much? I find skipping meals just makes me over eat to a greater extent.

Breakfast:
Bacon McGriddle
Large Mocha

Lunch:
Apple Juice
Foot long pizza sub

Dinner:
Innis & Gunn edit: This is a beer
Honey Garlic Wings

If you are fat then yes you eat too much. If you are fit, then no, you're doing alright. That's about average run of the mill health advice on AT.
 

Lash444

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My personal take on the whole bit...

Fat cells don't disappear with exercise, they simply shrink. I think as people push maximum density the body creates more cells. Well I think the larger you allow yourself to be, the more efficient (quicker) your body becomes at filling these cells.

Thats why I think people who are morbidly obese have an almost impossible time keeping it off. They created so many fat cells that now when they eat a 3000 calorie diet all 1 billion of their cells are right in line waiting to fill up at the pump.