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How do people eat so much?

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RocksteadyDotNet said:
This is thread about fat people, not about people that cant keep weight on.

Stop eating and you will lose weight.
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Unless you have a thyroid problem like my nephew, there are millions of Americans with Thyroid problems. I've read that about 1/2 of them do have the condition due to a horrible diet on their part. So that leaves about 1/2 which cannot control it, if you took all the people like my nephew and put them together they could populate a large city like LA, and maybe then some. They might be a small portion of the population overall, but I don't consider a million plus of anything to be small enough that it should be ignored.

Or maybe you're a whole lot smarter than the numerous doctors and experts my nephew and people like him have consulted? I mean I'm sure you know shit his doctor who didn't do anything but go to UCLA and study for like 8 years doesn't, right?

Meanwhile I can eat 4,000 calories a day, and sit in a chair all day doing literally nothing at all and still won't put a pound on.
 
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RocksteadyDotNet said:
You guys seem to have a serious problem with reading comprehension. Yes, I know metabolism can cause people to lose weight.

But it's impossible to gain weight if you cease eating.

So if you're fat, stop eating. There's no excuse.
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Headline on all the tabloids; New "if you're fat, stop eating" diet!
 
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Heh, I made a post in H&F about Disney getting attacked for their edu-tainment exhibit that promoted healthy life styles, eating, and exercising. Fatty advocacy groups forced them to close it, saying it was discriminatory.

My stance was that Disney should have told to pound sand . . .and I got attacked by ATH&F 'experts' who blamed obesity on everything but poor diet and lack of exercise. 🙁 Its very sad that we blame genes, pesticides, genetically modified foods, society, your neighbor, etc for obesity and there's absolutely zero personal responsibility.
 
HamburgerBoy said:
I didn't include water.

I don't understand the three meal thing either. Why does one HAVE to eat three meals? Why can't a filling and non-junk food "snack" (protein bar) suffice?
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Because a protein bar will not satisfy your hunger. Hunger comes from your stomach trying to process food that isn't there, causing pain and discomfort. A protein bar isn't going to fill your stomach, and therefore, you will still have discomfort after eating one. Thats why we have meals generally spaced out throughout the day to keep food in our gut so we don't have hunger pangs/pains. You don't have to stuff yourself, a protein bar just doesn't cut it (been there, tried that).
 
I'm late to the game, but is this another one of those "I'm so much better than people that over-eat" threads?
 
Bateluer said:
Heh, I made a post in H&F about Disney getting attacked for their edu-tainment exhibit that promoted healthy life styles, eating, and exercising. Fatty advocacy groups forced them to close it, saying it was discriminatory.

My stance was that Disney should have told to pound sand . . .and I got attacked by ATH&F 'experts' who blamed obesity on everything but poor diet and lack of exercise. 🙁 Its very sad that we blame genes, pesticides, genetically modified foods, society, your neighbor, etc for obesity and there's absolutely zero personal responsibility.
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If you go into the thread and actually read their responses, they attribute a small portion to genetic disorders, and really only put you in your place because you have a history of being particularly obtuse about things concerning health and fitness. Given also that they are practicing health professionals, that puts them quite a bit above "ATH&F 'experts'".
 
I was a skinny kid up until I was around 9 years old. All of a sudden, food became fucking delicious and I ate roughly 4000 calories a day.
 
It's so easy to overeat in America. You really have to try hard not to overeat, especially with what we're used to portioning. It also doesn't help that as kids (unless you were a fat fatty) you could eat a lot more than you can as an adult.

When I diet to lose weight I'm eating a bowl of cereal (measured to 28g) or a fiber/morning bar. Lunch is strict sandwich, lowfat chips and an under 100 calorie snack, dinner is either something cooked (chicken, rice, beans, veggie common) or a combo of a low fat hotdog (45cal) or boca/veggie burger, throw in a Lean Cuisine/Smart Ones now and then. I'll snack on a sub 100 calorie snack and some sunflower seeds after dinner. If I go out it's a chicken salad with light dressing or some other form of chicken and no bun with a veggie side.

Even with so much watching and essentially VERY low calorie in comparison to what I'd "normally" eat I only lose a pound a week. Everything is constantly tempting, everywhere you go everything is so fucking stuffed with calories it's unbelievable. I regularly go to Flannigan's for lunch (seafood/bar grill style in sofla), they did a calorie test on their food and won't post it anywhere; one of their burgers is like 1800 calories, and one of their brownie deserts was tested at 14000, yes, THOUSAND, calories. They don't even want people to see that.

And of course the sugar drinks or diet drinks which may not have calories but aren't helping your body any. My coworkers are constantly snacking or eating unhealthy shit and thinking it's nothing, they go out for wings and wonder why I don't go with them "how bad can they be?" anywhere from 150-250 calories per fried wing x 10. Everything is so god damn fattening and so god damn delicious. Fuck.

Ever have a Japanese snack? Super light and low calorie, across the board.
 
Dude people are fucking gross, its not hard at all. Ladies at my work seriously eat a candy bar or TWO after their already gross huge fried lunch. Oh but they drink a diet soda so its all OK.

I only eat lunch and dinner myself so that helps a lot... I have zero appetite for the first few hours of being awake so I never eat breakfast.
 
momeNt said:
If you go into the thread and actually read their responses, they attribute a small portion to genetic disorders, and really only put you in your place because you have a history of being particularly obtuse about things concerning health and fitness. Given also that they are practicing health professionals, that puts them quite a bit above "ATH&F 'experts'".
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Uh, no. Read my statements in the thread. I very clearly stated that the majority of obese people were due to poor lifestyle and defended Disney's exhibit. They attacked Disney, saying that Disney's exhibit was not the right way to improve the health of obese children and proceeded to blame pretty much everything but personal responsibility for their obesity. I very effectively defeated their flimsy arguments. 🙂 Especially since they really didn't have any central argument other than 'Disney was wrong. Fat people aren't fat because they eat too much and exercise too little'.

Its really sad. When these obese children become hyper-obese adults, because every push to correct the root of the problem is met with whining about how its society's fault, we will be in a world of hurt.
 
Bateluer said:
Uh, no. Read my statements in the thread. I very clearly stated that the majority of obese people were due to poor lifestyle and defended Disney's exhibit. They attacked Disney, saying that Disney's exhibit was not the right way to improve the health of obese children and proceeded to blame pretty much everything but personal responsibility for their obesity. I very effectively defeated their flimsy arguments. 🙂 Especially since they really didn't have any central argument other than 'Disney was wrong. Fat people aren't fat because they eat too much and exercise too little'.

Its really sad. When these obese children become hyper-obese adults, because every push to correct the root of the problem is met with whining about how its society's fault, we will be in a world of hurt.
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ATOT theme alert! 😀
 
L M A O ... people automatically pointing to their thyroid if they are overweight :eyeroll:

Get with it people. If calories in > calories out, you will gain fat. If calories in < calories out you will stay lean.
 
Timorous said:
Firstly you should as much as possible stay moving, if you have a desk job then atleast fidgit in your seat because if you do nothing the body stores the fat you eat but if you are moving somewhat then the amount of fat in your blood will reduce and part of whats left will be sent to your muscles.
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Moving around will make you a better worker too. If I start to zone out, walking up 8 flights of stairs then walking back down 8 flights of stairs wakes me up and I can work again. Some of the older guys go outside for a smoke when they can no longer think clearly.


people automatically pointing to their thyroid if they are overweight :eyeroll:
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Their thyroid is fucked because they don't exercise 😉
Being a fat slob is remarkably hard on the body. Women can have menstrual problems just by being obese.
 
How does anybody eat less then about 3000-4000 calories a day without feeling like they are starving to death?

Yesterday, I had 2 bagels with cream cheese, 3 slices of rye toast with butter and Jam (Grape on 1, Lingonberry on 2), and 3 big plates at an Indian buffet, as well as some soup and some garlic bread.

Pretty sure I had about 3-4 pounds of food during lunch at India House.
 
ShawnD1 said:
Their thyroid is fucked because they don't exercise 😉
Being a fat slob is remarkably hard on the body. Women can have menstrual problems just by being obese.
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Thyroid disorders are very real. They say roughly 1/10 women will have a thyroid disorder in their lifetime. The cause is usually autoimmune (ie your body confuses thyroid cells with an infection and tries to destroy it), though there are other causes. Hypothyroidism (the thyroid disorder people associate with obesity) is not caused by obesity. However it is rarely responsible as the primary cause of obesity. Thus doctors are obligated to do a quick check when counseling about obesity just to ensure a treatable endocrine disorder (other than Diabetes) isn't an exarcerbating factor or even primary cause of the patients weight gain.

Overall I'm saying low thyroid function may contribute to obesity but is not caused by obesity. However most obese people have totally normal thyroid functions and are obese due to environmental reasons (poor diet, poor exercise, etc)

@burnitdown
Start by adding consistent vigorous exercise every day to offset some of those calories. Then start by making a commitment that "ok I can eat whatever I want as long as its an actual animal or an actual plant". IE I can eat all the apples I want, but no apple sauce (there is no apple sauce plant). I can eat all the chicken I want, but no chicken fingers (there is no chicken finger animal). Try and focus on eating foods as close to their natural state as possible and don't worry about the calories. Take it from there. Slowly increase the percentage of plantlife in your diet. See what happens then... I have like 1 bagel a year and honestly don't remember the last time I ever had any jam. What I do eat is a lot of sauteed chicken breasts/salmon/turkey breast which are extremely filling, but actually very calorie lean. Look up the calorie content of protein vs starch/sugar vs fat and you'll start to understand how diets like the atkin's diet works (which recommends all the meat and vegetables you want but avoid fat and starch). The atkin's is a little extreme but at least they understand the concept of calorie lean and calorie dense foods.
 
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BurnItDwn said:
How does anybody eat less then about 3000-4000 calories a day without feeling like they are starving to death?

Yesterday, I had 2 bagels with cream cheese, 3 slices of rye toast with butter and Jam (Grape on 1, Lingonberry on 2), and 3 big plates at an Indian buffet, as well as some soup and some garlic bread.

Pretty sure I had about 3-4 pounds of food during lunch at India House.
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This is my thought as well. If I try to limit myself to say, 3500 calories a day, I'll wake up in the middle of the night hungry. If I eat how I really want to, I sleep like a baby.

As an experiment, I ate everything I wanted to for a week and tracked the calories using thedailyplate.com (livestrong). I averaged between 5000-6000 calories per day that week. Some of these guys who say that they eat like horses and never gain weight would be puking after every meal if they tried to put away the kind of food that is no problem at all for me. I don't know about thyroid problems or anything like that, but there is definitely a difference in hunger levels and satiation between me and some of my friends. It does take far more willpower for me to limit my food intake than it does for some other people.

I manage my weight pretty well through diet and exercise, but I have no illusions about the differences between how my body handles food and the guy who eats a sandwich and an apple for lunch and talks about how stuffed they are.
 
ShawnD1 said:
Their thyroid is fucked because they don't exercise 😉
Being a fat slob is remarkably hard on the body. Women can have menstrual problems just by being obese.
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So now you are a doctor? There are people who have thyroid problems that cause weight issues ... but the vast majority of obese/morbidly obese people DO NOT have thyroid problems ... they have other issues including living unhealthy lifestyles.

The "thyroid" excuse got old a LONG time ago. The first step in saving your life is realizing that YOU are the problem, not your thyroid.
 
dud said:
So now you are a doctor? There are people who have thyroid problems that cause weight issues ... but the vast majority of obese/morbidly obese people DO NOT have thyroid problems ... they have other issues including living unhealthy lifestyles.

The "thyroid" excuse got old a LONG time ago. The first step in saving your life is realizing that YOU are the problem, not your thyroid.
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This is true. Even if you have a problem that makes losing weight difficult, giving up is not going to help. The only way for something to be done about it is for you to do something about it.
 
SlitheryDee said:
This is my thought as well. If I try to limit myself to say, 3500 calories a day, I'll wake up in the middle of the night hungry. If I eat how I really want to, I sleep like a baby.
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The sensation of hunger comes from the interactions of signals between your stomach and brain.
It takes time for your stomach to adjust to lower amounts of food before triggering off alarms that you need to eat, probably in the area of 2-3 weeks of consistently lower amounts of food.
 
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