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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Kanalua
How old are you?

How many responsibilities to you have?

Married? With children?

What is your monthly income to housing cost ratio?

I'm not talking for the rest of the nation, but I live in one of the most expensive places to live in the United States, with the highest income to housing costs ratios. A lot of people here go to work and then go home to sleep. Healthy food is expensive here, and not healthy food is cheap. Healthy food for many is just NOT an option. Getting a gym membership is not an option. They already have to walk to the bus stop and back everyday...there is no time for leisure activities...

I know you don't understand this or are too immature to care...

Bullshit on the food, bullshit on lack of time, bullshit on a gym membership.

You only have to eat moderately healthy and watch your daily intake. The streets are free to run on, so are pushups, pullups, and a hell of a lot of other excersises. I'm a full time student, part time worker, and still have PLENTY of time to work out.

If you are overweight it is because you are lazy(or supposedly don't care) or because you don't know how to fix it. I highly doubt that you "don't care" people out there truly don't care. Thats fine, it's your life and your decision.

I was grossly underweight for most of my life, and always said that I "didn't care". But finally, about 18 months ago decided to do something about it, because deep down inside I really did care. Putting on weight was a VERY difficult task of counting calories and planning workouts, but I've been highly successful.

Whenever I hear any of my overweight coworkers complaining about how tough their diet is I remind them that I've been on a diet for 18 months and stay on it just fine. I can eat junk food or drink if I'm out, but its all in moderation and not day after day.

exactly, it's calories in > calories out that's making you fat.

it's not all about WHAT you eat but how much.
 

OCGuy

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People are lazy, and they start to not give a sh*t. To all the people who say its "Genetic" and "metabolism" Please post the obesity rates in 1920 compared to now...are all these genetic defects just now appearing? LOL. Stop eating like a pig. Death from obesity is even more drawn out than death from lungcancer/smoking. Arthritis, diabetes, stroke, high blood pressure, maybe youll even survive a heart attack or two before you finally kick the bucket.

I dont mind so much when I see obese adults, that is thier deal. But when I see them take a 7 year old girl who is already obese into Mcdonalds, I want them arrested. Seriously. That is some major child abuse. Maybe a different topic....eh.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

exactly, it's calories in > calories out that's making you fat.

it's not all about WHAT you eat but how much.

Pretty much true for 99.9% of the population. A few people have water retention issues or bowel problems, etc. But muscle and fat cant magically appear out of thin air, or conversely disappear into thin air.
 

Squisher

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I am fat. I am truly sorry that I am fat. It is obvious that my fatness shows a character flaw that labels me as a lesser being. It is from my position as a lesser being that I look out on all thin people with envy. I understand that my fatness cannot in anyway overcome any positive attributes that I possess.

The ways in which my fatness affects your lives obviously shows a level selfishness on my part in which I have maliciously ignored your well being and it is only understandable that you should question the usefulness of my existence. It is obvious that my girth can be only be interpreted as an impediment to either one of us realizing our full potential and so it is understandable that every action on my part should be the focus of your attention and if any action on my part were in anyway to not address this shortcoming of mine it should not only be taken note of, but all others should join together to voice their abject disapproval of my wasted effort to not be doing something to change my fatness.

Remember, it is only through this constant and consistent effort of all thin people to rise to the occasion and re-affirm that my place in society might be elevated to the level of those of you possessing worth through your thinness.

It is with my deepest shame that I cannot ask for your forgiveness, but simply ask for you to tolerate my existence on the remote chance that I might someday join you in the ranks of the self-righteous.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
it just boggles the mind, how people can just keep eating, not exercise, get fat and not try to change their lifestyle.

do they not realize how unhealthy and how unattractive it is?

half the people i see walking around in public have such grotesque bodies, men and women, young and not so young.

do they just not care? are they lazy? are they married?

edited from obese to fat to make it more controversial ;)

let me break it down for you.
stop eating so much and i bet you won't be as fat. if you don't put food into your mouth, you body cannot get fat on nothing. it's that simple.
stop bitching about how you don't have time to go to the gym or healthy food is more expensive than fast food. lamest excuses ever.


Why do people smoke?
Why do people become alcoholics?
Why do people do drugs?
Why do people have unsafe sex?
 
Jul 10, 2007
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Originally posted by: Kanalua
How old are you?

How many responsibilities to you have?

Married? With children?

What is your monthly income to housing cost ratio?

I'm not talking for the rest of the nation, but I live in one of the most expensive places to live in the United States, with the highest income to housing costs ratios. A lot of people here go to work and then go home to sleep. Healthy food is expensive here, and not healthy food is cheap. Healthy food for many is just NOT an option. Getting a gym membership is not an option. They already have to walk to the bus stop and back everyday...there is no time for leisure activities...

I know you don't understand this or are too immature to care...

25.
not married - eat out with gf every weekend.
no children.
i live in the NY metro area, one of the most expensive places to live in the WORLD.

i wake up at 7am, don't get home until 8-9pm typically.
to make matters worse, my job provides me with breakfast and lunch DAILY, catered from local eateries. they provide dinner if i stay late enough.
we have a kitchen with just about every juice and non-alcoholic beverage in the fridge.
we even have a frozen yogurt/ice cream machine (don't know what it is because i never tried it), with sugar cones and various toppings at our full disposal.

i'm not fat because i choose to not to order and eat unhealthy foods and AMOUNTS.
i also MAKE time for the gym.

yes, i'm too immature to understand this :roll:
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: sao123

Why do people smoke?
Why do people become alcoholics?
Why do people do drugs?
Why do people have unsafe sex?

Unsafe sex is still usually worth it though ;)
 

huberm

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well, for the sake of conversation, I am about 30-40lbs overweight. I do not like how I look like this.

I understand the basics of it - if you take in more calories than you burn, you lose weight. My problem, and I think the problem of most other overweight people, is very similiar, and it is usually very hard to explain this to someone that doesn't struggle with their weight.

Imagine eating what is considered a normal portion sized meal and still feeling hungry. Would you eat some more, even though you knew you had enough calories? This is my predicament.

I run 3x per week and do not lose weight because of this. For the most part I eat healthier things than the average joe ( i cook most of my food, only very rarely eat fast food, and i don't drink sugary drinks ). If I ignore the inner urge to eat for too long my whole metabolism can crash and, of course, I will go into survival mode and my brain will tell me to eat whatever I can find, as fast as possible.

to make a long story short, it is like an addiction. It is my only vice. And like any addiction, it can feel very lonely, especially when I read or hear things like what the OP said.
 

1prophet

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Low self-esteem , poor habits, depression, lifestyle, the crowd they hang out with, easy access to unhealthy food, culture that doesn't promote physical activity.

It's easy to point and say "hey fatty just stop eating" much harder to have good parents (what's left of them) to promote self control and discipline in children when they are young so that the children have a fighting chance against bad habits like overeating, especially when the parents are fat themselves.

 

MiniDoom

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I was overweight going into my 30's when I decided to do something about it. I didn't want to diet because I love to eat and drink beer. I also didn't have time for the gym So I gave up my car for the most part and started to bike to work or just about anywhere I could. Getting my workout in when most people go to and from work seemed like a good window of opportunity for me. After a few thousand miles I wasn't loosing weight (got mad), but I was just getting more trim and skinnier. It wasn't until after I put on enough muscle that I started, and now I struggle to keep weight on. I usually cannot eat enough and drink enough beer to maintain my weight, something I thought would be impossible 10 years ago.
 

AstroManLuca

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: Kanalua
How old are you?

How many responsibilities to you have?

Married? With children?

What is your monthly income to housing cost ratio?

I'm not talking for the rest of the nation, but I live in one of the most expensive places to live in the United States, with the highest income to housing costs ratios. A lot of people here go to work and then go home to sleep. Healthy food is expensive here, and not healthy food is cheap. Healthy food for many is just NOT an option. Getting a gym membership is not an option. They already have to walk to the bus stop and back everyday...there is no time for leisure activities...

I know you don't understand this or are too immature to care...

25.
single, no children.
i live in the NY metro area, one of the most expensive places to live in the WORLD.

i wake up at 7am, don't get home until 8-9pm typically.
to make matters worse, my job provides me with breakfast and lunch DAILY, catered from local eateries. they provide dinner if i stay late enough.
we have a kitchen with just about every juice and non-alcoholic beverage in the fridge.
we even have a frozen yogurt/ice cream machine (don't know what it is because i never tried it), with sugar cones and various toppings at our full disposal.

i'm not fat because i choose to not to order and eat unhealthy foods and AMOUNTS.
i also MAKE time for the gym.

yes, i'm too immature to understand this :roll:

What I don't think you understand is that you're still lucky. If it was as simple as eating less and going to the gym a few days a week, then a lot fewer people would be fat. Skinny people don't realize how good they have it. All you have to do is not eat so much and go to the gym.

I'm not disputing that there are fat people out there who perpetuate their own problems, because I know there are probably a bunch of them standing in line at Burger King as we speak, getting ready to order a Tendercrisp Bacon Cheddar Ranch or something equally horrible.

What I am saying is that thin people don't realize how easy they have it. A lot of fat people maintain healthy diets and regular workout schedules but are still fat. My mom is another example. She works out all the time. Probably more fit than most women 20 years younger than her (she's 54). She's on weight watchers and makes healthy meals every day. But she's still fat. She's been that way her whole life. It's just a fact of life for her. She can lose weight and she has (since starting weight watchers), but she's still a large woman (I think she's around 170-180 lbs now), but she can never break into the "thin people's club."

But I suppose if you saw her you'd still sneer and tell her to quit eating at McDonald's.
 
Jul 10, 2007
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Originally posted by: Squisher
I am fat. I am truly sorry that I am fat. It is obvious that my fatness shows a character flaw that labels me as a lesser being. It is from my position as a lesser being that I look out on all thin people with envy. I understand that my fatness cannot in anyway overcome any positive attributes that I possess.

The ways in which my fatness affects your lives obviously shows a level selfishness on my part in which I have maliciously ignored your well being and it is only understandable that you should question the usefulness of my existence. It is obvious that my girth can be only be interpreted as an impediment to either one of us realizing our full potential and so it is understandable that every action on my part should be the focus of your attention and if any action on my part were in anyway to not address this shortcoming of mine it should not only be taken note of, but all others should join together to voice their abject disapproval of my wasted effort to not be doing something to change my fatness.

Remember, it is only through this constant and consistent effort of all thin people to rise to the occasion and re-affirm that my place in society might be elevated to the level of those of you possessing worth through your thinness.

It is with my deepest shame that I cannot ask for your forgiveness, but simply ask for you to tolerate my existence on the remote chance that I might someday join you in the ranks of the self-righteous.

sure, but your sarcastic attempt at humor sucked. go work on that.
 

IEC

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Kanalua
How old are you?

How many responsibilities to you have?

Married? With children?

What is your monthly income to housing cost ratio?

I'm not talking for the rest of the nation, but I live in one of the most expensive places to live in the United States, with the highest income to housing costs ratios. A lot of people here go to work and then go home to sleep. Healthy food is expensive here, and not healthy food is cheap. Healthy food for many is just NOT an option. Getting a gym membership is not an option. They already have to walk to the bus stop and back everyday...there is no time for leisure activities...

I know you don't understand this or are too immature to care...

Bullshit on the food, bullshit on lack of time, bullshit on a gym membership.

You only have to eat moderately healthy and watch your daily intake. The streets are free to run on, so are pushups, pullups, and a hell of a lot of other excersises. I'm a full time student, part time worker, and still have PLENTY of time to work out.

If you are overweight it is because you are lazy(or supposedly don't care) or because you don't know how to fix it. I highly doubt that you "don't care" people out there truly don't care. Thats fine, it's your life and your decision.

I was grossly underweight for most of my life, and always said that I "didn't care". But finally, about 18 months ago decided to do something about it, because deep down inside I really did care. Putting on weight was a VERY difficult task of counting calories and planning workouts, but I've been highly successful.

Whenever I hear any of my overweight coworkers complaining about how tough their diet is I remind them that I've been on a diet for 18 months and stay on it just fine. I can eat junk food or drink if I'm out, but its all in moderation and not day after day.

exactly, it's calories in > calories out that's making you fat.

it's not all about WHAT you eat but how much.

^this.

I don't know how many people have been frustrated that their "diets" are not working. Well of course they don't work! How many calories are they eating? As much as they burn in a day or slightly over...

While I wouldn't recommend going below 1400-1500 Kcal (calories) in a day, I did 1500-1800 cal/day before and the weight dropped very quickly. The key is to eat frequent small "meals". I say "meals" because some of those "meals" were no more than a Clif bar or similar 200-300 calorie serving.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: huberm
well, for the sake of conversation, I am about 30-40lbs overweight. I do not like how I look like this.

I understand the basics of it - if you take in more calories than you burn, you lose weight. My problem, and I think the problem of most other overweight people, is very similiar, and it is usually very hard to explain this to someone that doesn't struggle with their weight.

Imagine eating what is considered a normal portion sized meal and still feeling hungry. Would you eat some more, even though you knew you had enough calories? This is my predicament.

I run 3x per week and do not lose weight because of this. For the most part I eat healthier things than the average joe ( i cook most of my food, only very rarely eat fast food, and i don't drink sugary drinks ). If I ignore the inner urge to eat for too long my whole metabolism can crash and, of course, I will go into survival mode and my brain will tell me to eat whatever I can find, as fast as possible.

to make a long story short, it is like an addiction. It is my only vice. And like any addiction, it can feel very lonely, especially when I read or hear things like what the OP said.

To that I'd respond, imagine having eaten 5 meals already for 1,000 calories a pop and still knowing that you need to eat another 1,000 in order to get your necessary intake even though you're not hungry. Thats about how much I had to eat while I was in Iraq to keep gaining. Now I'm down to about 4500 per day, but its really not easy.

I enjoy eating food too, but you can limit yourself and still once or twice a week have a big meal that you really enjoy.
 

AstroManLuca

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Originally posted by: TallBill
To that I'd respond, imagine having eaten 5 meals already for 1,000 calories a pop and still knowing that you need to eat another 1,000 in order to get your necessary intake even though you're not hungry. Thats about how much I had to eat while I was in Iraq to keep gaining. Now I'm down to about 4500 per day, but its really not easy.

I enjoy eating food too, but you can limit yourself and still once or twice a week have a big meal that you really enjoy.

Weight Gain 4000.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: Squisher
I am fat. I am truly sorry that I am fat. It is obvious that my fatness shows a character flaw that labels me as a lesser being. It is from my position as a lesser being that I look out on all thin people with envy. I understand that my fatness cannot in anyway overcome any positive attributes that I possess.

The ways in which my fatness affects your lives obviously shows a level selfishness on my part in which I have maliciously ignored your well being and it is only understandable that you should question the usefulness of my existence. It is obvious that my girth can be only be interpreted as an impediment to either one of us realizing our full potential and so it is understandable that every action on my part should be the focus of your attention and if any action on my part were in anyway to not address this shortcoming of mine it should not only be taken note of, but all others should join together to voice their abject disapproval of my wasted effort to not be doing something to change my fatness.

Remember, it is only through this constant and consistent effort of all thin people to rise to the occasion and re-affirm that my place in society might be elevated to the level of those of you possessing worth through your thinness.

It is with my deepest shame that I cannot ask for your forgiveness, but simply ask for you to tolerate my existence on the remote chance that I might someday join you in the ranks of the self-righteous.

sure, but your sarcastic attempt at humor sucked. go work on that.
I thought it was pretty damned funny.

The op is only half wrong. People should try harder to eat less and exercise more. If you've actually read the replies, most people agree with this. It's your insufferable attitude that's the problem. Scorn and disdain aren't an especially effective way to motivate people. You will hopefully realize this in a few years.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: TallBill
To that I'd respond, imagine having eaten 5 meals already for 1,000 calories a pop and still knowing that you need to eat another 1,000 in order to get your necessary intake even though you're not hungry. Thats about how much I had to eat while I was in Iraq to keep gaining. Now I'm down to about 4500 per day, but its really not easy.

I enjoy eating food too, but you can limit yourself and still once or twice a week have a big meal that you really enjoy.

Weight Gain 4000.

Consuming even a weight gainer shake when not hungry is not the easiest at times. They don't exactly taste like milk shakes either.
 

Saint Michael

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: TallBill
To that I'd respond, imagine having eaten 5 meals already for 1,000 calories a pop and still knowing that you need to eat another 1,000 in order to get your necessary intake even though you're not hungry. Thats about how much I had to eat while I was in Iraq to keep gaining. Now I'm down to about 4500 per day, but its really not easy.

I enjoy eating food too, but you can limit yourself and still once or twice a week have a big meal that you really enjoy.

Weight Gain 4000.

Consuming even a weight gainer shake when not hungry is not the easiest at times. They don't exactly taste like milk shakes either.

Cream. It's delicious.
 
Jul 10, 2007
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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
What I don't think you understand is that you're still lucky. If it was as simple as eating less and going to the gym a few days a week, then a lot fewer people would be fat. Skinny people don't realize how good they have it. All you have to do is not eat so much and go to the gym.

I'm not disputing that there are fat people out there who perpetuate their own problems, because I know there are probably a bunch of them standing in line at Burger King as we speak, getting ready to order a Tendercrisp Bacon Cheddar Ranch or something equally horrible.

What I am saying is that thin people don't realize how easy they have it. A lot of fat people maintain healthy diets and regular workout schedules but are still fat. My mom is another example. She works out all the time. Probably more fit than most women 20 years younger than her (she's 54). She's on weight watchers and makes healthy meals every day. But she's still fat. She's been that way her whole life. It's just a fact of life for her. She can lose weight and she has (since starting weight watchers), but she's still a large woman (I think she's around 170-180 lbs now), but she can never break into the "thin people's club."

But I suppose if you saw her you'd still sneer and tell her to quit eating at McDonald's.

i'm not arguing that it's easier for some to gain weight than others.
don't think that i can't sympathize because i personally have been trying to lose fat in my gut for the past 3 months.
i'm naturally skinny, and even for me it was extremely difficult so i can imagine for all those with slower metabolism how much harder it is.

but it's really not that hard. if your mom is working out and eating healthy meals, and still not losing weight, she's still taking in too much calories for her BMR.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
it just boggles the mind, how people can just keep eating, not exercise, get fat and not try to change their lifestyle.

do they not realize how unhealthy and how unattractive it is?


stop eating so much and i bet you won't be as fat. if you don't put food into your mouth, you body cannot get fat on nothing. it's that simple.

Why do ingnorant people like you keep posting? Don't you realize how annoying and how unattractive it is?

It just boggles the mind, how people like you can just keep posting, not smarten yourself up, remain fathead ignorant and not try to change your no-lifestyle.

Stop posting so much and I bet you won't be as annoying. If you don't put ignorance into your post, your reputation as a twerp ingnoramus cannot get large on nothing. It's that simple, you annoying little simpleton.

Do ignorant people like yourself just let themselves go . . . on and on and on?

STOP POSTING, FATHEAD.


 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: Perknose

Why do ingnorant people like you keep posting? Don't you realize how annoying and how unattractive it is?

It just boggles the mind, how people like you can just keep posting, not smarten yourself up, remain fathead ignorant and not try to change your no-lifestyle.

Stop posting so much and I bet you won't be as annoying. If you don't put ignorance into your post, your reputation as a twerp ingnoramus cannot get large on nothing. It's that simple, you annoying little simpleton.

Do ignorant people like yourself just let themselves go . . . on and on and on?

STOP POSTING, FATHEAD.


Why do ingnorant people like you keep posting? Don't you realize how annoying and how unattractive it is?

It just boggles the mind, how people like you can just keep posting, not smarten yourself up, remain fathead ignorant and not try to change your no-lifestyle.

Stop posting so much and I bet you won't be as annoying. If you don't put ignorance into your post, your reputation as a twerp ingnoramus cannot get large on nothing. It's that simple, you annoying little simpleton.

Do ignorant people like yourself just let themselves go . . . on and on and on?

STOP POSTING, FATHEAD.