amazingly the question crossed my mind today on the way to work on the subway, when i saw a very fat woman in her mid 40's (i think?), pretty much enveloped 80% of the 2 seater by herself.
I dont consider myself fat, but I have definetly packed on some pounds within the last 2 years. What caused this...
Being in a serious relationhip=eating out a lot
Career in accounting=demanding work hours
I am in no way defending the idea of gaining weight and doing nothing about it. I'd love to get back in better shape; I guess my point is that when some people get caught up in life, it's tough to find the time or energy to go to the gym. Hell, I get a free membership to the gym right across the street from our office, and I still find it hard to break away from the office or even find the energy to go over there.
When I was in school, especially my last year or so in college, I was in the gym routinely, and I was in pretty good shape.
That's my excuse at least
Being in a serious relationhip=eating out a lot
Career in accounting=demanding work hours
I am in no way defending the idea of gaining weight and doing nothing about it. I'd love to get back in better shape; I guess my point is that when some people get caught up in life, it's tough to find the time or energy to go to the gym. Hell, I get a free membership to the gym right across the street from our office, and I still find it hard to break away from the office or even find the energy to go over there.
When I was in school, especially my last year or so in college, I was in the gym routinely, and I was in pretty good shape.
That's my excuse at least
Lumathix
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Well, each should be taken on a case by case basis, but I'm willing to bet the main reason is they just give up. Maybe they resign to the fact they'll never have the body they want to have, never be in a relationship with the person they want to be in with, etc.
You have to admit, it's easier to just "give up" than work at something.
You have to admit, it's easier to just "give up" than work at something.
when you can't go up a flight of stairs without resting every 5 steps.
when you take up more than 1 seat in any seated venue.
when you need clothing custom made for you.
when you can't differentiate between your neck and your chin.
for guys, when you can't see your own wang.
GeekDrew
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Indeed. So since there is no guarantee whatsoever that your work will pay off, and you're OK with "never have the body they want to have, never be in a relationship with the person they want to be in with, etc", why should any of them (us) bother?
... Ok, perhaps I don't qualify for your definition of "beyond overweight".
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some people could just let it go and let it go and not even realize how far over they've gone till it's too late.
when I see some of these people, I've got to question what type of exercise they're even getting... I can't imagine they'd feel comfortable in a gym, if the equipment could even support them. heh.
when I see some of these people, I've got to question what type of exercise they're even getting... I can't imagine they'd feel comfortable in a gym, if the equipment could even support them. heh.
Kanalua
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How old are you?
How many responsibilities to you have?
Married? With children?
What is your monthly income to housing cost ratio?
I'm not talking for the rest of the nation, but I live in one of the most expensive places to live in the United States, with the highest income to housing costs ratios. A lot of people here go to work and then go home to sleep. Healthy food is expensive here, and not healthy food is cheap. Healthy food for many is just NOT an option. Getting a gym membership is not an option. They already have to walk to the bus stop and back everyday...there is no time for leisure activities...
I know you don't understand this or are too immature to care...
How many responsibilities to you have?
Married? With children?
What is your monthly income to housing cost ratio?
I'm not talking for the rest of the nation, but I live in one of the most expensive places to live in the United States, with the highest income to housing costs ratios. A lot of people here go to work and then go home to sleep. Healthy food is expensive here, and not healthy food is cheap. Healthy food for many is just NOT an option. Getting a gym membership is not an option. They already have to walk to the bus stop and back everyday...there is no time for leisure activities...
I know you don't understand this or are too immature to care...
there's no guarantee in life, but wouldn't you agree it only increases your chances if you're in better shape?
and even if you're not doing to get some, at least do it for yourself. it boosts your self confidence and mental health.
and of course, you're healthier physically.
AstroManLuca
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Well by your definition, then, I'm not "beyond overweight." But my BMI still has me as obese. I'm not insanely fat or anything, but I do have a bit of a gut and I wear pants with either a 38 or a 40 inch waist (depends on the brand and how well broken in they are).
Here's the thing. I exercise 4-5 times a week. I go out and take a 10-15 mile bike ride nearly every day. Been doing this all summer (last winter I didn't have the money to join a gym, but this winter I will so I'll be able to keep up my exercise routine). Yet I'm still kinda fat. I don't exactly go nuts with the food either but I am sure I could do better.
The fact is, a lot of people who have the exact same lifestyle as me (same amount of exercise, same diet) are going to be thin. If there was a 100% accurate correlation between lifestyle and body type, where everyone who lives an unhealthy life is fat and everyone who lives a healthy life is thin, then obesity in the U.S. would be much, much higher. Not 30%, but probably closer to 60%. I know I can lose weight, but it's not easy at all, especially with my work schedule.
Fat-haters like the OP seem to think that it's simply a matter of getting out and moving around a bit, and not eating fast food. I know a lot of grotesquely obese people probably do have some really terrible habits that have led them to where they are now. But a lot of people like me don't necessarily have bad habits, we're just unlucky. I know I could be thinner, but I don't think a lot of thin people really understand how difficult it is to lose lots of weight. I can't just stop eating fast food because I don't eat it in the first place. I can't just go out and exercise some because I already do. Sure, I could exercise more, and that's what I'm trying to do (disciplining myself to always go out and get some exercise every day), and I can eat less, but these changes can take months or years. It's hard to keep up a consistent weight-loss program for that long.
P.S. Are there any pills or anything that might make things easier, or are they all BS? They seem like mostly snake oil to me but I've never tried anything other than plain old diet and exercise.
Here's the thing. I exercise 4-5 times a week. I go out and take a 10-15 mile bike ride nearly every day. Been doing this all summer (last winter I didn't have the money to join a gym, but this winter I will so I'll be able to keep up my exercise routine). Yet I'm still kinda fat. I don't exactly go nuts with the food either but I am sure I could do better.
The fact is, a lot of people who have the exact same lifestyle as me (same amount of exercise, same diet) are going to be thin. If there was a 100% accurate correlation between lifestyle and body type, where everyone who lives an unhealthy life is fat and everyone who lives a healthy life is thin, then obesity in the U.S. would be much, much higher. Not 30%, but probably closer to 60%. I know I can lose weight, but it's not easy at all, especially with my work schedule.
Fat-haters like the OP seem to think that it's simply a matter of getting out and moving around a bit, and not eating fast food. I know a lot of grotesquely obese people probably do have some really terrible habits that have led them to where they are now. But a lot of people like me don't necessarily have bad habits, we're just unlucky. I know I could be thinner, but I don't think a lot of thin people really understand how difficult it is to lose lots of weight. I can't just stop eating fast food because I don't eat it in the first place. I can't just go out and exercise some because I already do. Sure, I could exercise more, and that's what I'm trying to do (disciplining myself to always go out and get some exercise every day), and I can eat less, but these changes can take months or years. It's hard to keep up a consistent weight-loss program for that long.
P.S. Are there any pills or anything that might make things easier, or are they all BS? They seem like mostly snake oil to me but I've never tried anything other than plain old diet and exercise.
RandomFool
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I'm not very scientific about it but I say if you have to do something extra or can't do something you want to do because of you weight then that's too much. Like for example you're kicked off a ride at an amusement park because the restraints don't fit. Or you're they guy everyone looks at to get off an elevator because there's too much weight in it.
Joemonkey
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You sound like me, I do 30 mins of step aerobics while holding dumbells at least 4-5 times a week, but since i've quit smoking it's very hard to get my metabolism up and consequently lose weight. I've tried things like Hydroxycut and Leptorpril but those are $$$ and I didn't notice any difference. Drinking hot green tea has seemed to help some but it's no miracle drug.
a better question is why douchebags keep making threads like these? People are different, get used to it.
meltdown75
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food / eating becomes an addiction just like anything else... it's really hard for some people to diet / exercise too as it is simply not their way of life.
i have a couple/few addictions too so i really feel sympathy for people addicted to food & eating.
plus food is so delicious... it's hard not to want it all the time. i :heart: fast food A LOT but i just don't let myself get it much anymore....
it's so easy to hit a value menu too... unhhh beef & bean burrito mmm
i have a couple/few addictions too so i really feel sympathy for people addicted to food & eating.
plus food is so delicious... it's hard not to want it all the time. i :heart: fast food A LOT but i just don't let myself get it much anymore....
it's so easy to hit a value menu too... unhhh beef & bean burrito mmm
TallBill
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Bullshit on the food, bullshit on lack of time, bullshit on a gym membership.
You only have to eat moderately healthy and watch your daily intake. The streets are free to run on, so are pushups, pullups, and a hell of a lot of other excersises. I'm a full time student, part time worker, and still have PLENTY of time to work out.
If you are overweight it is because you are lazy(or supposedly don't care) or because you don't know how to fix it. I highly doubt that you "don't care" people out there truly don't care. Thats fine, it's your life and your decision.
I was grossly underweight for most of my life, and always said that I "didn't care". But finally, about 18 months ago decided to do something about it, because deep down inside I really did care. Putting on weight was a VERY difficult task of counting calories and planning workouts, but I've been highly successful.
Whenever I hear any of my overweight coworkers complaining about how tough their diet is I remind them that I've been on a diet for 18 months and stay on it just fine. I can eat junk food or drink if I'm out, but its all in moderation and not day after day.
AstroManLuca
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TallBill
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I do believe I put "because you don't know how to fix it" as the other reason. I dont know your situation, but if you are trying to fix it and its not working, then this is obviously the situation.
Have you tried tracking total calories eaten, and averaged out over a week? If your weight stays the same, then lower your daily intake by 300 or so calories, and your weight WILL drop.
It's not just the quality of the food eaten, but the quantity. I could eat two Big Mac meals a day, but if thats all I ate, I'd lose weight quickly.
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