How did the right get it so wrong? CA booming instead of dooming!

[BoomerD]

Right?? And then right after Brownback's tax cuts were deemed a total failure what did Republicans do? Implement very similar ones nationally in Trump's tax cut (which also failed).

They knew their policies were failures but they did it anyway because being conservative is more important than being correct.

GMFY. Conservative mantra.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

All the most successful states have the highest unemployment in the nation. Duh! lol


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[Vic]

All the most successful states have the highest unemployment in the nation. Duh! lol


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It's funny how you proved Eski's first post in this thread right with every single one of your posts here. There's no consequence in right-wing world for being factually wrong, the consequences come from not faithfully bleating the partisan/tribal ideology, regardless of how factually wrong.

 

[brycejones]

we saw just how successful they were when Sam Brownback ran things there.

Faith based economics for the win!

 

[NWRMidnight]

I mean, as a very successful state - it's not like they would have the highest unemployment in the country, right?

OH WAIT - lol

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Fucking retards. Everywhere lol.

interesting that you have chose to use pictures instead of giving a link, which shows Texas at 6.7%.

Where you took your info:

Unemployment Rates for States

www.bls.gov

CA is only 1.5% higher than Texas, yet CA has 39.5 Million people vs Texas with 29.5 Million people. (s) Not like population has any effect on controlling unemployment. (/s).

 

[MadRat]

Did you actually follow your own link? Seasonal adjusted rate had California and Hawaii tied in a dead heat at dead last place >8% in April 2021.

Looking just on the claims in this thread is an exercise in wading through double talk. Touting that regular Joe's are leaving and making it better for rich people is a horrible way to denote economic success. We used to call this double talk by a word that's sure to get filtered by forum software. But it starts with bull and rhymes with hit.

 

[brycejones]

Did you actually follow your own link? Seasonal adjusted rate had California and Hawaii tied in a dead heat at dead last place >8% in April 2021.

Looking just on the claims in this thread is an exercise in wading through double talk. Touting that regular Joe's are leaving and making it better for rich people is a horrible way to denote economic success. We used to call this double talk by a word that's sure to get filtered by forum software. But it starts with bull and rhymes with hit.

Bullshit

 

[MadRat]

Bullshit

Yep, that's the word. That word used to get filtered. I'm surprised to see it not. LOL

 

[NWRMidnight]

Did you actually follow your own link? Seasonal adjusted rate had California and Hawaii tied in a dead heat at dead last place >8% in April 2021.

Looking just on the claims in this thread is an exercise in wading through double talk. Touting that regular Joe's are leaving and making it better for rich people is a horrible way to denote economic success. We used to call this double talk by a word that's sure to get filtered by forum software. But it starts with bull and rhymes with hit.

If you are replying to me? I actually clicked on their sources and learned that they where using 2019 data (before the pandemic).. which is why I removed it and left the one where someone's mind took his pics from, and changed my reposne.

Either way, someone's mind is manipulating the facts. As it's adjusted numbers, not raw numbers, and it's based off of labor force which is directly influenced by population and many other factors that differ from state to state. CA has a high number of rich wives who don't work, but are considered part of the labor force for instance.

 

[kage69]

The republican right has been wrong about pretty much everything since the 80s. I don't see why California should be any different.

 

[MadRat]

NWRMidnight-
Funny, because directly off the article in which you linked before the edit came:

Unemployment Rates for States

www.bls.gov

Last modified May 21, 2021

StateApril 2021/Rate/Rank
Nebraska

2.81
New Hampshire

2.81
South Dakota

2.81
Utah

2.81
Vermont

2.95
Idaho

3.16
Kansas

3.57
Alabama

3.68
Montana

3.79
Iowa

3.810
Indiana

3.911
Wisconsin

3.911
Minnesota

4.113
Missouri

4.113
North Dakota

4.215
Georgia

4.316
Oklahoma

4.316
Arkansas

4.418
Kentucky

4.719
Ohio

4.719
Virginia

4.719
Florida

4.822
Maine

4.822
Michigan

4.924
North Carolina

5.025
South Carolina

5.025
Tennessee

5.025
Wyoming

5.428
Washington

5.529
West Virginia

5.830
Oregon

6.031
Maryland

6.232
Mississippi

6.232
Rhode Island

6.334
Colorado

6.435
Delaware

6.435
Massachusetts

6.537
Alaska

6.738
Arizona

6.738
Texas

6.738
Illinois

7.141
Louisiana

7.342
Pennsylvania

7.443
District of Columbia

7.544
New Jersey

7.544
Nevada

8.046
Connecticut

8.147
New Mexico

8.248
New York

8.248
California

8.350
Hawaii

8.551
Footnotes

 

[NWRMidnight]

NWRMidnight-
Funny, because directly off the article in which you linked before the edit came:

Unemployment Rates for States

www.bls.gov

Did you miss that it was the link that someone's mind took his info, which I stated when I put that link up? So I am not sure what your point is as my response surely clarified things for you, based on HIS information he used.

However, This is link I thought you where referring too:

Unemployment Rate by State 2023

Paints a completely different picture and is misleading unless you click on source and see it's using 2019 data for it's numbers that say 2021 at the bottom.

Maybe if you actually quoted people, it would make it easier to clear up such confusion, as I am sure you caught me in th middle of editing my response, which I am doing at work on my phone. Which I have to save my changes, done or not because of the unpredictable connection and the possibility of either losing where I am at, and time. Sorry.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Did you miss that it was the link that someone's mind took his info, which I stated when I put that link up? So I am not sure what your point is as my response surely clarified things for you, based on HIS information he used.

However, This is link I thought you where referring too:

Unemployment Rate by State 2023

Paints a completely different picture and is misleading unless you click on source and see it's using 2019 data for it's numbers that say 2021 at the bottom.

Maybe if you actually quoted people, it would make it easier to clear up such confusion, as I am sure you caught me in th middle of editing my response, which I am doing at work on my phone. Which I have to save my changes, done or not because of the unpredictable connection and the possibility of either losing where I am at, and time. Sorry.

The reality is no one cares because the topic of conversation is California detective dipshit lol.

Your whataboutism is entirely invalid to the conversation - but here you are going "b-b-b-but what about this unrelated thing?"

Face facts Sir Derpington, your liberal shitholes are queens of last place.

 

[uclaLabrat]

The reality is no one cares because the topic of conversation is California detective dipshit lol.

Your whataboutism is entirely invalid to the conversation - but here you are going "b-b-b-but what about this unrelated thing?"

Face facts Sir Derpington, your liberal shitholes are queens of last place.

Never let data get in the way of a good argument. I admire your dedication 😂

 

[senseamp]

NWRMidnight-
Funny, because directly off the article in which you linked before the edit came:

Unemployment Rates for States

www.bls.gov

Last modified May 21, 2021

StateApril 2021/Rate/Rank
Nebraska

2.81
New Hampshire

2.81
South Dakota

2.81
Utah

2.81
Vermont

2.95
Idaho

3.16
Kansas

3.57
Alabama

3.68
Montana

3.79
Iowa

3.810
Indiana

3.911
Wisconsin

3.911
Minnesota

4.113
Missouri

4.113
North Dakota

4.215
Georgia

4.316
Oklahoma

4.316
Arkansas

4.418
Kentucky

4.719
Ohio

4.719
Virginia

4.719
Florida

4.822
Maine

4.822
Michigan

4.924
North Carolina

5.025
South Carolina

5.025
Tennessee

5.025
Wyoming

5.428
Washington

5.529
West Virginia

5.830
Oregon

6.031
Maryland

6.232
Mississippi

6.232
Rhode Island

6.334
Colorado

6.435
Delaware

6.435
Massachusetts

6.537
Alaska

6.738
Arizona

6.738
Texas

6.738
Illinois

7.141
Louisiana

7.342
Pennsylvania

7.443
District of Columbia

7.544
New Jersey

7.544
Nevada

8.046
Connecticut

8.147
New Mexico

8.248
New York

8.248
California

8.350
Hawaii

8.551
Footnotes

You can reduce unemployment by cutting benefits and making people desperate enough to take any job. But the flip side of that coin is they will skimp on education and take jobs that are not a good fit for their skills and reduce future productivity. That's how you become a low value adder red state. Which is why California productivity is booming while rest of US is stagnant. Also, California is a tourism state, as tourism reopens, that unemployment rate will drop. In the meantime, people are getting extra $300 per week in extra federal unemployment until September and spending that money to keep the economy humming along.

 

[dank69]

The reality is no one cares because the topic of conversation is California detective dipshit lol.

Your whataboutism is entirely invalid to the conversation - but here you are going "b-b-b-but what about this unrelated thing?"

Face facts Sir Derpington, your liberal shitholes are queens of last place.

I have two words for you:

 

[vi edit]

I'd like to know what causes a 20+ year old account to remain in slumber, come out to talk about GPU's and then end up siding with one of the forums duller enigmas.

Huh.

 

[cytg111]

I'd like to know what causes a 20+ year old account to remain in slumber, come out to talk about GPU's and then end up siding with one of the forums duller enigmas.

Huh.

That sounds like mod detective work

 

[desy]

IDK know but I suspect California's Entertainment Hospitality Tourism sectors were the biggest drivers of UI.
Do you think those are projected to come back any time soon? I'm thinking pent up demand

When people dump on Cali I suspect its envy more than anything,

 

[Zorba]

Can you imagine what he/she is like in real life?

Any guesses on why they've become so intent on shitposting as much as possible? Extra time because they're currently under house arrest for a tourist visit of the Capitol on Jan 6th? Did their wife leave them? Did they murder their wife and they've been living in a house with the corpse? Lose their job after going on a racist tirade? Put all their money in Dogecoin when it was high? Is their wife one of the multiple batshit crazy Republican politicians now busy blowing corporate lobbyists? Is he Papa John? Mike Lindell? Is it Donald Turmp's son?

Well he used to pretend to be a concerned democrat, I'm guessing that held him back a bit.

 

[ElFenix]

IDK know but I suspect California's Entertainment Hospitality Tourism sectors were the biggest drivers of UI.
Do you think those are projected to come back any time soon? I'm thinking pent up demand

it is. and they are.

It’s true that if unemployment is your metric, California has a very high rate relative to Florida. But people who dropped out of the labor force because of COVID — either because they contracted it or because of concern for themselves or their families — are not counted in the unemployment rate. Likewise, there’s evidence that states that opened up earlier may have reduced their employees’ hours because fewer people were coming through the doors; the reduction in hours per employee was 4.2 percent in Texas versus 1.1 percent in California. So unemployment is actually quite complicated, and you can’t really rely on it.

[The UCLA report also suggests that “the answer lies in the structure of the California economy.” In California, “sectors with a high degree of human contact” — that is, “leisure and hospitality, education, retail trade, and health care and social services” — contributed only “0.3 percentage points to annual GDP growth over the decade preceding the pandemic.” But last year, “they accounted for 75 percent of the state’s job losses.”

Meanwhile, the sectors driving growth in California — “information, professional and business services, manufacturing and financial services” — weren’t hit nearly as hard. That helps to explain the discrepancy between the state’s unemployment rate and its overall economic performance. UCLA expects “many of those lost jobs to return.”]

https://news.yahoo.com/lockdown-states-like-california-did-better-economically-than-looser-states-like-florida-new-covid-data-shows-153025163.html

 

[sportage]

People that have never lived the CA experience just love to bash the CA experience, that is... until they too experience for themselves the CA experience. It takes a republican to screw things up and a democrat to clean it up, so maybe that is why CA tends to get it right? No? When a Californian rather be homeless living on the street compared to moving back to the South or back to the Midwest, well... that says a lot for being a Californian. If one is going to fail and forced into a tent, old CA is the best place to do that. Come-on, everyone wants the CA experience. Living on the street as an Californian is far better than living in Georgia. Or Tennessee. Or iOwa.

 

[dainthomas]

California Defies Doom With No. 1 U.S. Economy

The Golden State has no peers when it comes to expanding GDP, raising household income, investing in innovation and a host of other key metrics.

www.bloomberg.com

I wouldn't take any economist or pundit who predicted California's doom seriously until they do some self reflection and admit their career was a miserable failure until this point.

In other news, the power grid in capitalist paradise Texas is fucking up again. This time because it's too hot. In Texas.

I'm sure Rafael will say it's the windmills' fault somehow.

ERCOT Calls On Texans To Conserve Power Amid High Summer Demand, Forced Outages

ERCOT said several power generators in the state are on forced outages for repairs, putting about 11,000 megawatts — about the amount of energy it takes to power 2.2 million homes on a summer day — out of commission.

www.kut.org

 

[pauldun170]

Data from April?
Weren't several of those states still in the early stages of opening up?

 

[Moonbeam]

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Alternatively, all the shitty red states have low unemployment rates because nobody with any brains would seek work there.