How come no one here talks about the Corvette?

[Underground727]

Not saying the vettes not a nicer car... but it cost ~60.

You can have close to that performance for much much less.

 

[mrCide]

Originally posted by: aircooled
With Corvette money, I could buy a Porsche and be much happier

now someone is thinking like i am


z06 new runs around ~50~.. most people here cant afford that.. muchless a 350z or g35coupe.... or wrx.. or hell even a car.. lots of kids, lots of people in college.. just seeing fancy new cars and wanting them.

then theres the rest of the crowd..

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Originally posted by: Underground727
Not saying the vettes not a nicer car... but it cost ~60.

You can have close to that performance for much much less.

A top of the line Z06, yes. A base Corvette starts out at something like $36k

 

[Staples]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Because it's not made in an asian country?

They generally don't have big-ass spoiler?

What he said. This group of people seem to love cars only if they meet at last one of these qualifications.

 

[Nyical]

Originally posted by: Underground727
Not saying the vettes not a nicer car... but it cost ~60.

You can have close to that performance for much much less.

Yep and you can be just like everybody else with the same car same mods same fartcan for a muffler same dumba$$ stickers in the window!

I would like to see those ricemobiles 30 to 40 years from now, oops sorry you won't...well you
sorta will see them...well not them but the sheet metal that they were made out of after it was melted down to produce another ricemobile.

 

[mrCide]

Originally posted by: Nyical

Originally posted by: Underground727
Not saying the vettes not a nicer car... but it cost ~60.

You can have close to that performance for much much less.

Yep and you can be just like everybody else with the same car same mods same fartcan for a muffler same dumba$$ stickers in the window!

I would like to see those ricemobiles 30 to 40 years from now, oops sorry you won't...well you
sorta will see them...well not them but the sheet metal that they were made out of after it was melted down to produce another ricemobile.

while i agree with what some say this typical response is pretty lame.. lay off the riceboy crap its real old.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: mrCide

Originally posted by: Nyical

Originally posted by: Underground727
Not saying the vettes not a nicer car... but it cost ~60.

You can have close to that performance for much much less.

Yep and you can be just like everybody else with the same car same mods same fartcan for a muffler same dumba$$ stickers in the window!

I would like to see those ricemobiles 30 to 40 years from now, oops sorry you won't...well you
sorta will see them...well not them but the sheet metal that they were made out of after it was melted down to produce another ricemobile.

while i agree with what some say this typical response is pretty lame.. lay off the riceboy crap its real old.

i agree, the riceboy crap is getting real old. Please stop driving rice!

 

[Rent]

Originally posted by: Underground727
Not saying the vettes not a nicer car... but it cost ~60. You can have close to that performance for much much less.

It would take alot more than 10k to get a 240 to perform on par with a Z06. And if you were to give the Vette' the 50k you were talking about earlier, there wouldn't be a 240 on the planet that could touch it. The Vette is a sports car, the 240 is a performance coupe. There's a VERY big difference.

I'm not saying the 240 is a bad car, in fact I love them to death, but don't even joke about them being on par with a Vette. It simply won't happen.

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: rawoutput
My dad has a 96' vette and is getting a 2003/4 Z06 soonish. I think they're great cars, probably the best designed domestic car I've ever seen (besides the new Viper, pretty sweet in person). The only thing is that sure, they can outperform pretty much any car out there on straight lines and in corners, but what corvette ever does? They're mostly driven by people like my dad, 55+ and are about as likely to take it over the speed limit as they are to stop doing a comb-over.

Fortunately or unfortunately, I'm afraid that you are mostly correct.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: rawoutput
My dad has a 96' vette and is getting a 2003/4 Z06 soonish. I think they're great cars, probably the best designed domestic car I've ever seen (besides the new Viper, pretty sweet in person). The only thing is that sure, they can outperform pretty much any car out there on straight lines and in corners, but what corvette ever does? They're mostly driven by people like my dad, 55+ and are about as likely to take it over the speed limit as they are to stop doing a comb-over.

Fortunately or unfortunately, I'm afraid that you are mostly correct.

Somethign like 70% of Corvettes are automatic right? That's alot of old men who won't even pull more than .3g with those wishbones.

 

[spidey07]

<---spits coke over the screen.

Somebody's been having wet dreams on their 240.

It can't touch a vette.

Funny how I don't see too many 240s on the SCCA circuit. Why is that?

The reason vettes aren't on this board is because its young...meaning most members can't afford one.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: spidey07
<---spits coke over the screen.

Somebody's been having wet dreams on their 240.

It can't touch a vette.

Funny how I don't see too many 240s on the SCCA circuit. Why is that?

The reason vettes aren't on this board is because its young...meaning most members can't afford one.

Well I see threads about M5s, M3s, Boxsters, 911 Turbos... etc... i don't think it's necessarily because some people here can't afford. Just seems like not that many people are interested...

 

[no0b]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
OK, here's my reason for liking the f-body(which i'm gonna get and let my GF drive my current car.

Q: How much horsepower does the LS1 really have?

A: This is an interesting question that has sparked many debates recently. From 1997 up until 2000, the LS1 in the Corvette had an advertised 345 HP. From 1998 up until 2000 the LS1 in the Camaro Z28 and Pontiac Trans Am had an advertised 305 HP, and the horsepower in the Camaro SS and Trans Am WS6 had an advertised 320 HP.

It is pretty much believed that the HP ratings on the F-bodies are underrated. GM didn't want the F-bodies to be too close to their flagship Corvette, however the HP output between the two cars is actually very close. The Corvette is a little higher, and 345 HP is a realistic measurement, however the F-bodies are actually closer to 325-340HP. Depending on whether you have an automatic or a 6-speed, your HP rating will vary due to the automatics having more drivetrain loss. Most LS1 F-bodies are dynoing between 270 and 290 rear wheel horsepower depending on the transmission.

The best way to find out how much HP your LS1 puts out, is to take it to a dyno because each car is a little different. There is a slight increase in HP with the SS and WS6 cars because they have freer flowing intake air and a better exhaust, but the difference is maybe only 10-20 HP. If you have a regular Z28 or Trans Am, then realize that your 305 HP car is really underrated by at least 20 or more horsepower.

The Corvettes will still post slightly better 1/4 mile times, even though they have pretty close to the same HP output only because they have a better 50/50 weight ratio, they have 18 inch wheels in back (more grip), and are a little more aerodynamic. However the Corvette will only really start to pull on an F-body at speeds of 100 or greater.

With a little bit of modifications, if is VERY easy to get the LS1 F-body into the 350 HP+ range.

What does F/R weight ratio have to do with dragging?

I think it matters when the car is accelarating since the front end gets lifted and the rear goes into the ground. With most of the weight on the rear tires the grip is more so if the weight ratio is balanced correctly you can get more weight on the back end. But of course it would be very bad if you put too much weight on the rears.

 

[Anubis]

cause its ugly and doesent need to be talked about

 

[Underground727]

Originally posted by: Nyical

Originally posted by: Underground727
Not saying the vettes not a nicer car... but it cost ~60.

You can have close to that performance for much much less.

Yep and you can be just like everybody else with the same car same mods same fartcan for a muffler same dumba$$ stickers in the window!

I would like to see those ricemobiles 30 to 40 years from now, oops sorry you won't...well you
sorta will see them...well not them but the sheet metal that they were made out of after it was melted down to produce another ricemobile.

I never said anything about body kits or spoilers. I think cars are best left stock looking, except maybe slightly lowered and some nice rims.

This is the exhaust I will be putting on my 240: http://www.apexi-usa.com/exhausts_n1dual.asp . I will be getting these, too: http://www.apexi-usa.com/exhausts_supersilencer.asp . Hardly a "fartcan". And I have not seen a single other person around where I live with this exhaust.

Enough with the ricer sh*t, it's old. I'm not ricing my car or telling anyone to rice theirs in the first place.

I don't know, I think many imports will probably be classics one day. RX-7, Supra, 350Z, NSX, Skyline, etc. Maybe even 240's. Only 6000 '97-'98 240SX's came into America. About 2,000 were stick, and about 500 with both ABS and LSD.

 

[Underground727]

Originally posted by: Underground727

Originally posted by: Nyical
Well the way I look at it, most of those ricers that brag about beating vetts and any other american made muscle car, never think Ya I just blew
away a factory stock car with my car that I just dumped 50k of mommy and daddy money into it so I can look like a moron for the ladies on main
street.


Now take that 50k and drop it into that Vette or Camaro and race
them!

Ok... 60k vette + 50k worth of mods = 110k.

10k '98 240SX + 10k worth of mods = smokes a vette and looks better, too.

Should have said:

"10k '98 240SX + 10k worth of mods = smokes a [/b]STOCK[/b] vette and looks better, too."

99% of the 'vettes out there are stock. In fact I don't think I have ever seen a modified vette driving on the streets around here.

 

[Bulldozer]

Anyone who thinks the current vettes don't look good simply has poor taste. I bet these are the same people that talk about how great the new Acuras or VWs look.

The only downside to the vette is the poorly done interior.

 

[Underground727]

Originally posted by: Ladies Man


oh not to mention the 240sx gives head while you drive it will get you all playboy models you'll ever need

this part is true...

 

[Shockwave]

I just dont like the styling of the Vette as much as some other sports cars. Unfortunately, for the money with an off the lot vehicle absolutely nothing will touch it performance wise. And thats some good peice of mind if you want factory warrenty. Drive it off the lot and you can run with 95% of the cars on the road and never even think about threatening the warrenty.

I dont think many people on these boards drive them (Of those who *could* afford them) due to practicality. The Vette rides like complete ass. If your cuttin corners and carvin the road its VERY nice, but to go see Grandma in? Too rough. No back seat. Little trunk. High insurance. Makes it impratical as a daily driver for the most part.

*heh* A 240 runnin with a Vette. Thats funny. 'Sides, I think the Vette's run around 38-42, 44-48 for the Z06 and 50-ish for the Anniversary Edition. Again, thats I *think*. Never went and priced the new ones, but sure have looked alot.

I'd take a Viper if I could, better performance. But for the $$$, ya just cant beat a Vette no way no how.

 

[BatmanNate]

Originally posted by: Underground727
Not saying the vettes not a nicer car... but it cost ~60.

You can have close to that performance for much much less.

The stock C5 is 45k new, the Z06 is 50k new.

 

[Cfour]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
OK, here's my reason for liking the f-body(which i'm gonna get and let my GF drive my current car.

Q: How much horsepower does the LS1 really have?

A: This is an interesting question that has sparked many debates recently. From 1997 up until 2000, the LS1 in the Corvette had an advertised 345 HP. From 1998 up until 2000 the LS1 in the Camaro Z28 and Pontiac Trans Am had an advertised 305 HP, and the horsepower in the Camaro SS and Trans Am WS6 had an advertised 320 HP.

It is pretty much believed that the HP ratings on the F-bodies are underrated. GM didn't want the F-bodies to be too close to their flagship Corvette, however the HP output between the two cars is actually very close. The Corvette is a little higher, and 345 HP is a realistic measurement, however the F-bodies are actually closer to 325-340HP. Depending on whether you have an automatic or a 6-speed, your HP rating will vary due to the automatics having more drivetrain loss. Most LS1 F-bodies are dynoing between 270 and 290 rear wheel horsepower depending on the transmission.

The best way to find out how much HP your LS1 puts out, is to take it to a dyno because each car is a little different. There is a slight increase in HP with the SS and WS6 cars because they have freer flowing intake air and a better exhaust, but the difference is maybe only 10-20 HP. If you have a regular Z28 or Trans Am, then realize that your 305 HP car is really underrated by at least 20 or more horsepower.

The Corvettes will still post slightly better 1/4 mile times, even though they have pretty close to the same HP output only because they have a better 50/50 weight ratio, they have 18 inch wheels in back (more grip), and are a little more aerodynamic. However the Corvette will only really start to pull on an F-body at speeds of 100 or greater.

With a little bit of modifications, if is VERY easy to get the LS1 F-body into the 350 HP+ range.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: Shockwave
I dont think many people on these boards drive them (Of those who *could* afford them) due to practicality. The Vette rides like complete ass. If your cuttin corners and carvin the road its VERY nice, but to go see Grandma in? Too rough. No back seat. Little trunk. High insurance. Makes it impratical as a daily driver for the most part.

The ride quality is very dependent on how the Vette is optioned out. For example, the 50th Anniv's come stock with the electronic ride control off the Caddys. Smooth as silk. OTOH, the Z06 has a similar suspension setup to the Z51 package on C4 Vettes, which was the handling package used in the Corvette Challenge (88-89). Rides rough, but handles great.

There are options that give the driver a control that allows you to set the ride quality, in the cabin, in real time. Unsure what the C5 code is, but for the C4 is was FX1. A lot of people went for it, as the smooth made the Vette ride like a normal car, but a quick turn of the rotary switch and it was tight again.

No back seat isn't a valid complaint in this type of car. The 2+2 setup of most sports coupes are not usable for more than two people. Which makes them storage, just like the cargo area in the Vette.

Insurance is not that high, especially compared to Camaro/Firebirds. Less Vettes wrecked. Replacement is high, but it is for any car with a 50k sticker, again not a valid complaint at this level.

Vettes can be used as daily drivers. My dad drove his to work every day for 6 years. What it can't be used as is a soccer mom van.

EDIT: Forgot to add, that used C4s can be had for 15k and under, depending on location. Much better bargain than that 240SX that was talked about earlier in the thread. Plus, insurance on a used Vette is much lower, as the ins would only have to write out a check for 15k in case of accident instead of 50k.

 

[Underground727]

Originally posted by: Underground727

Originally posted by: Underground727

Originally posted by: Nyical
Well the way I look at it, most of those ricers that brag about beating vetts and any other american made muscle car, never think Ya I just blew
away a factory stock car with my car that I just dumped 50k of mommy and daddy money into it so I can look like a moron for the ladies on main
street.


Now take that 50k and drop it into that Vette or Camaro and race
them!

Ok... 60k vette + 50k worth of mods = 110k.

10k '98 240SX + 10k worth of mods = smokes a vette and looks better, too.

Should have said:

"10k '98 240SX + 10k worth of mods = smokes a [/b]STOCK[/b] vette and looks better, too."

99% of the 'vettes out there are stock. In fact I don't think I have ever seen a modified vette driving on the streets around here.

I mean if you pulled up to a vette at a stop light. I think the 240 might be out classed on the race track. Unless, you put in alot more than 10k.

You never know though, I have heard there are Silvia's that race against NSX's and such in major Japanese racing events.

 

[Cfour]

Originally posted by: Ladies Man
it's now pretty obvious that the 240sx is the best car ever made
heck drop 50k into a vette and only 10k into 240sx and the sx will destroy it... not to mention the fact that the corvette is horrible if it isn't going in a straight line and with simple modifications the sx is far better in corners

oh not to mention the 240sx gives head while you drive it will get you all playboy models you'll ever need

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.. but go look up the handling numbers of a Z06 and then the 240sx. The Vette is clearly on top. I have no idea why you all are comparing cars that are not even close to in the same class/type of car!!

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: Shockwave
I dont think many people on these boards drive them (Of those who *could* afford them) due to practicality. The Vette rides like complete ass. If your cuttin corners and carvin the road its VERY nice, but to go see Grandma in? Too rough. No back seat. Little trunk. High insurance. Makes it impratical as a daily driver for the most part.

The ride quality is very dependent on how the Vette is optioned out. For example, the 50th Anniv's come stock with the electronic ride control off the Caddys. Smooth as silk. OTOH, the Z06 has a similar suspension setup to the Z51 package on C4 Vettes, which was the handling package used in the Corvette Challenge (88-89). Rides rough, but handles great.

There are options that give the driver a control that allows you to set the ride quality, in the cabin, in real time. Unsure what the C5 code is, but for the C4 is was FX1. A lot of people went for it, as the smooth made the Vette ride like a normal car, but a quick turn of the rotary switch and it was tight again.

No back seat isn't a valid complaint in this type of car. The 2+2 setup of most sports coupes are not usable for more than two people. Which makes them storage, just like the cargo area in the Vette.

Insurance is not that high, especially compared to Camaro/Firebirds. Less Vettes wrecked. Replacement is high, but it is for any car with a 50k sticker, again not a valid complaint at this level.

Vettes can be used as daily drivers. My dad drove his to work every day for 6 years. What it can't be used as is a soccer mom van.

EDIT: Forgot to add, that used C4s can be had for 15k and under, depending on location. Much better bargain than that 240SX that was talked about earlier in the thread. Plus, insurance on a used Vette is much lower, as the ins would only have to write out a check for 15k in case of accident instead of 50k.

My comment on ride quality was in regards to the Z06. Most of my comments were, only because I believe if your gettin a Vette, get the Z06.

No backseat is a valid complaint if you only have 1 car. A single car family just shouldnt get a Vette due to practicality (For the most part)

And no backseat is a huge valid point for me.....Where do I put my subs?