Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: voodoodrul
You just show me where to sign up to get me out of here. Born and raised in Montana, I have no intention of living in the US any longer than I have to. The guise of "freedom" makes me sick. You aren't free. You live, work, and die for a war machine and general social indifference.
Travel the world and gain some perspective.. The US is a playground for a few of the world's elite.. But unless you are already in the elite circle, you might as well get out.
I plan to move to Ireland, Norway, Sweden, or Australia, in that order.
It's just time to quit with this thin coating of "land of the free" bullshit I hear. Asshats with American flags waving out their windows.. People talking about everyone who died for your freedom. Let me set something straight.. Those people who died for my freedom died only for the political whim of a given leader. Do you think anyone fighting in Vietnam, Korea, or Iraq, fearlessly stopped someone from taking my freedoms? No. And I'm sure they would have something to say about that.. The only one taking my freedoms is my government. Just name one of the recent wars where a dictator was ready and able to take away my freedoms and we fought for it and saved it. I dare you.. All we do is fight for washy political gains and plaster it on a t-shirt..
Screw this whole twisted system of selfishness in America. It's all about how much *I* can get. Yet in that same shortsightedness, you shoot your own foot. Instead of getting something back from your taxes, like providing for the general welfare, you feel happy under the guise that good ol' GW is fighting the bad guys for your freedom. Let me issue you a wake-up call. All those bad guys you are afraid of? That's called fear. And it's an irrational fear. Give it up.
The health of a society depends on the overall health of the people. You might take issue with the freeloaders, but you pay for it in the end when those freeloaders you held support from produce stressed out psycho children that shoot up a school.. Life is hard.. And sometimes you have some people freeloading off the system. Deal with it.
You have to take care of your people. We have socialism in our schools. We all agree education is important.. Why isn't health?
You sound like an angry teenager who just learned what socialism is in History class.
I am angry about the system. I'm 25 by the way. And I've been angry with it for many years now. I am a socialist in a lot of ways because, yes, I do actually care about other people. It's not all about what I can take.
The distribution of wealth in the US should be of great concern. The rich are becoming far too rich and the poor are stuck in a cycle they can't get out of. Try being in their shoes.
I'm not poor. I'm not rich. I do know that having no health coverage and no reasonable way to attain it means trouble for me. I work at the only stable software company for hundreds of miles. I make crap for a salary, but I get by. I know where every penny goes. I have been looking for a better job for over 8 years with no real prospects. I can't find anything that pays over $15.hr.. and most of those jobs require a master's degree. I am not kidding on that point.
So I will never own a house, never save for retirement, never get ahead. Want to know what happens if I get sick? Well, since I work my ass off and still can't pay for it, either society pays for it, or I die. Fine, piss on me and say you don't care, but the point is, you pay for it through inflated insurance rates. The cycle continues until nobody can afford insurance. Who steps in then? The government.
Remember this, because this cycle is coming to your neighborhood too. The American Dream is certainly dead here..
Check out this from Wikipedia:
The median income for a household in the city was $30,366, and the median income for a family was $42,103. Males had a median income of $30,686 versus $21,559 for females. The per capita income for the city was $17,166. About 11.7% of families and 19.7% of the population were below the poverty line, including 20.5% of those under age 18 and 9.3% of those age 65 or over. 38% of Missoula residents age 25 and older have a bachelor's or advanced college degree.
Average house prices are in the $280,000 range. That's for a cute littler fixer. Sorry, I can't afford $2000/mo. That's more than my net check.
Insurance? Well, for my employer's coverage, there is a $3,000 deductible, $6,000 family, and a premium of over $720/mo for a family. No kidding.. So you can guess I don't have the insurance.
So whatever.. When can I move?
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