Depende of the Kabini. If is AM1, you can still OC it to get decenteThere isn't any fix for Atom/Kabini systems besides buying something with a proper CPU.
Considering it a paid learning experience and move on.
Depende of the Kabini. If is AM1, you can still OC it to get decenteThere isn't any fix for Atom/Kabini systems besides buying something with a proper CPU.
Considering it a paid learning experience and move on.
I disagree.Depende of the Kabini. If is AM1, you can still OC it to get decente
Only if you don't want to be able to use your DVD drive. At least, that was the problem that I had with any significant OCing on AM1.Depende of the Kabini. If is AM1, you can still OC it to get decente
Amazon's best selling desktop right now is an QC Skylake i5 for $434. They have an i3 for under $400 too.Agreed. At least in the US, even for a prebuilt you can get an i3 (close to i5 territory) or a higher end Kaveri for that price.
This makes me the sads. Well, it has low peak power consumption. lolP.S. Warframe now runs 1080P, all low, 30-60FPS, CS:GO and LoL are also playable. Since he doesn't care for graphic settings as long as he can play 1080P(big TV) he's happy.
Agree. :thumbsup:I also think the big core Celeron is the answer for those who want the cheapest possible PC. Anything less is not even worthy of the form factor.
Few and fewer people are using DVD drive.... so OC'ing the AM1 chip is not bad at all.Only if you don't want to be able to use your DVD drive. At least, that was the problem that I had with any significant OCing on AM1.
Kill me and even the Big Core A4 is FAR better than those Small chips.I also think the big core Celeron is the answer for those who want the cheapest possible PC. Anything less is not even worthy of the form factor.
Consider that the Athlon 5350 barely edges out my old Thinkpad T510 with a 520M, and the reason not to give up too much for a desktop PC becomes clear. I've put a lot of people into used Sandy i5-2520M Thinkpad T420 machines for under $200, those little things will run circles around any small core CPU, even a newer quad.Kill me and even the Big Core A4 is FAR better than those Small chips.
For me the list is like that:
Small Cores << OC AM1 << A4 << Celeron << A6 << SKL Celeron = OC A6 and so on....
Weird pricing. Seems like everything is the same price whether you get a crap processor or not. Note that at the bottom of the page, they list a Skylake i3 for 449 as well, although it has only 4 gb of ram. I would actually be tempted to go for this, as the cpu is better and it is easy enough to upgrade the ram, the cpu not so much.EDIT: Your buddy could have just bought this...https://www.otto.de/p/hyrican-pc-intel-g4400-8gb-1tb-windows-10-gigabyte-edition-pc-4970-513382628/#variationId=513382629
I wouldn't blame otto.de for this, they seem to have reasonable computers for a good price. User error![]()
I still use my desktop for basically everything. There is still nothing quite like a full size keyboard, big monitor, and power to spare.If people are not gaming... they are not using their desktops anymore. None of my friends are (except for the gaming ones). There is not much interest in this anymore, I am afraid.
Too bad we can't DIY laptop PCs.
You may get away with passive on Atom. But Kabini needs active. A fan is also cheaper than a big passive heatsink so....Do the small core CPUs even need a fan? I'm guessing the savings for the OEMs are fairly substantial, less money for the CPU and the cooling solution, cheaper mobo since it's a SoC.
So do I.I still use my desktop for basically everything. There is still nothing quite like a full size keyboard, big monitor, and power to spare.
The trend is phones and tablets may be a more portable replacement for < 14" notebooks, but they have nothing on desktop PCs.So do I.
The trend isn't looking though.
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I have a nas qnap ts 251 with a j1800 and it have no cpu fan but a fan for the entire cabinet. Ofcource this solution uses more power than the prior nas that had something like dual a9 at 800MHz but its also like 6 times as fast. Perfect cpu imo for a nas. Plenty of power all the time. Run this slim os fine. I can even make a virtual win 7 machine as i have installed 8GB. I dont run virtual but the thought gives me comfortDo the small core CPUs even need a fan? I'm guessing the savings for the OEMs are fairly substantial, less money for the CPU and the cooling solution, cheaper mobo since it's a SoC.