How are we supposed to keep up with the prison population,

Texashiker

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when executions are on the decline?

Texas, the nations leader in putting people to death has seen a decline in executions.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/10/texas-death-penalty-executions/382057/

On Tuesday night, the state of Texas executed Miguel Paredes by lethal injection for murdering three members of a rival gang* sixteen years ago. With no executions scheduled by the state department of criminal justice for November or December, Paredes' death marks the tenth and final execution for Texas this year—the fewest in almost two decades.

If we keep sending people to prison for life, or even for decades, we will have to build more prisons.

How about this, when someone is sentenced to death, someone else is executed to make room? It would be like balancing a checkbook. We can only afford to care for X number of inmates. Lets say 10k inmates. When hit 10k + 1, someone has to go to make room.

Maybe liberals would be willing to pay more in taxes to take care of people in prison? Send out a questionnaire, if you oppose the death penalty your taxes go up 10%.

If you oppose the death penalty, surely you will not mind paying more in taxes to house the criminals?

I know, lets streamline the appeals process so that the appeals on takes a few minutes rather than years?
 
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Typically inane TH post. Texas has only 244 people on death row at the moment (out of a total of more than 166,000 people confined in Texas). Nationally there are about 3,000 people on death row, the fewest number since 1995 and a tiny minority of the total of our total correctional population of nearly 1,575,000. A typical death row inmate sits there for about 16 years before being executed.

The upshot is that the abolition of the death penalty in favor of life sentences, or of your proposed legislative change (which would be both arbitrary and unconstitutional) would have no material impact on prison populations or related expense. Abolishing the death penalty would in fact lead to significant savings, since a death sentence nets a much greater cost to the government than a life sentence due to the appellate process that follows.

If your concern is really with saving on the costs of prisons, consider changing mandatory sentencing practices, particularly on non-violent drug offenses.
 
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CLite

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Maybe liberals would be willing to pay more in taxes to take care of people in prison? Send out a questionnaire, if you oppose the death penalty your taxes go up 10%.

If you oppose the death penalty, surely you will not mind paying more in taxes to house the criminals?

I know, lets streamline the appeals process so that the appeals on takes a few minutes rather than years?

A few minutes to decide if someone should be put to death and undoubtedly a few innocents get executed? Totally worth it though to save some taxes, right?
 

Texashiker

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Execution hardly culls the prison population. Are you ducking retarded?

Do you fail at basic math?

As per Don Vito Corleone there are only 244 people on death row.

If we send 244 people to the chamber, how many remain?

244 - 244 = 0

What we need are more people sentenced to death. That 244 is barely a drop in the bucket to the overall prison population.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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I was going to make a joke about making prisons self sustaining factories (private and below minimum wage to keep conservatives happy of course) and expanding sentences to even more nonviolent crimes than now.

However the complete lack of even grade school level logic put into this post completely ruins my ducking mood to do so.
 

desy

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You fail at math
Its cheaper to house a prisoner forever keeping your precious taxes lower than go through an execution which costs millions in legal fees for appeals making lawyers a lot richer.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Do you fail at basic math?

As per Don Vito Corleone there are only 244 people on death row.

If we send 244 people to the chamber, how many remain?

244 - 244 = 0

What we need are more people sentenced to death. That 244 is barely a drop in the bucket to the overall prison population.

How about show us the time when executions we're both a significant portion of the prison population and cheaper than simple life sentences. You know the two premises need for a shred of anything you're saying to make any damned sense.
 

Texashiker

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How about show us the time when executions we're both a significant portion of the prison population and cheaper than simple life sentences.

Crybaby liberals prevent us from having an efficient and cost effective death penalty process.

Remove the liberal flailing and the death penalty would be a lot more cost effective.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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I bet it would if it was used often. There is no fear of your life now for a crime, but if you knew youd die if caught youd rethink your crime in a lot of cases.

I bet if you thought you were going to get Ass raped for years you would think before you acted... Oh wait crimals either don't think before they act or assume they won't get caught... Places that chop off your arm for minor crimes and kill you for being gay still have thieves and gays and no I'm not saying being gay is innately criminal.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Crybaby liberals prevent us from having an efficient and cost effective death penalty process.

Remove the liberal flailing and the death penalty would be a lot more cost effective.
Actually the constitution, justice, common sense, and our forefathers does.

Go to Soviet Russia if you want an efficient death penalty
 
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You fail at math
Its cheaper to house a prisoner forever keeping your precious taxes lower than go through an execution which costs millions in legal fees for appeals making lawyers a lot richer.

You get rid of all that. You just hang them after they are found guilty of murder :)
 
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I bet if you thought you were going to get Ass raped for years you would think before you acted... Oh wait crimals either don't think before they act or assume they won't get caught... Places that chop off your arm for minor crimes and kill you for being gay still have thieves and gays and no I'm not saying being gay is innately criminal.

They arent scared of an ass rape. They might be the ones doing it :) But if its death all the time..they will think harder about their actions before commiting them. It wont stop all crime obviously, but will reduce it a lot IMO. I have no patience for those that take life (other than self defense). To hell with useless scum.
 
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And ignore all the people wrongfully sentenced. How much blood is it ok to have on our hands exactly? Is it ok when you're strapped to the table/chair?

Well id save hangings for the 100% verified ones. Either they admit it, or caught on camera, DNA etc. Which is a lot of them. Right now these scum are living a taken care of life on the tax payers dime. F that.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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They arent scared of an ass rape. They might be the ones doing it :) But if its death all the time..they will think harder about their actions before commiting them. It wont stop all crime obviously, but will reduce it a lot IMO. I have no patience for those that take life (other than self defense). To hell with useless scum.

It might reduce it slightly. You are massively overestimating these effects. Especially for murder. No one is casually deciding to murder anyone now.
 

WelshBloke

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They arent scared of an ass rape. They might be the ones doing it :) But if its death all the time..they will think harder about their actions before commiting them. It wont stop all crime obviously, but will reduce it a lot IMO. I have no patience for those that take life (other than self defense). To hell with useless scum.

Because all the countries with the death penalty have lower rates of crime.

Oh... Wait... Maybe not.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Well id save hangings for the 100% verified ones. Either they admit it, or caught on camera, DNA etc. Which is a lot of them. Right now these scum are living a taken care of life on the tax payers dime. F that.

There are still people found guilty with that evidence and later found innocent. What if you killed someone in self defense in their house and got railroafed with DNA evidence or camera and a good prosecutor. Would you want the no thought execution or some appeals?
 

thraashman

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Abortion is murder - life should be respected at all costs.

,.. we need more executions.
It's really absurd how little sense he makes.
He's like a cartoon character. If you made Yosemite Sam like half as smart you'd end up with Texashiker.

One thing I will never understand is anyone who can say they're for small government who wants the government to have the power to put people to death. That's about as big government as I can think of.
 

Rakehellion

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Do you fail at basic math?

As per Don Vito Corleone there are only 244 people on death row.

If we send 244 people to the chamber, how many remain?

244 - 244 = 0

What we need are more people sentenced to death. That 244 is barely a drop in the bucket to the overall prison population.

It costs more to execute someone than to imprison them for life.