How against a Clinton run are you?

2Xtreme21

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I was just reading the other thread on Hillary's 2008 presidential bid and I wanted to get a rough idea how P&N stands on the thought of Hillary running related to hypothetical 2008 match-ups.

Please post your results after voting and comment accordingly.

Edit: YES I SPELLED HILLARY WRONG IN THE POLLS. I spent a good bit of time making the poll and I don't see it as mission critical to correct the spelling of her name in every one of them. I'm sorry for any inconvenience / mental anguish this may have caused you.
 

Tab

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I am agaisnt her running because I don't she has a chance agaisnt any republican running because of her history. Irreguardless of if you think her past is good or bad; it's going to be very easy for the republican machine to give her a hard time.
 

Jaskalas

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I?d vote for almost any Dem over McCain any day. For the same reason I voted for a Dem against Arnold.

While my primary choice would be someone championing secured borders, an effective foreign policy, the removal of the patriot act, and the dissolving of power from our central government to the states.

There is no one with those values, but I more closely identify with Republicans. While wishing for a true Republican, not a big government ?neo-con?, I?m afraid Washington ensures only Authoritarians sit at the table.
 

ProfJohn

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I think Hillary losses against just about every Republican out there, except maybe Newt since he has similar negatives.

In general you would think the Democrats have an upper hand in 2008 after 8 years of Bush and his low approval numbers.

But that all goes out the window depending on whom the actual nominees are.
I still think Giuliani would make a great nominee, he is very popular and even though he has some liberal ideas he is conservative on the issues that matter most to Americans.
Give him a strong VP candidate and the Democrats will have a hard time against him.
 

Corbett

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Where is the option to choose not to vote for neither if it were Hillary vs Obama?
 

daveymark

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Originally posted by: chowderhead
It's Hillary actually.

A comma should be inserted after the word "Hillary". Inspect the plank in your eye bfore pointing out the speck of sawdust in his eye.
 

chowderhead

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well, spell her name right if one is going to be doing a poll.

Edit: We could always have the CNN poll where they ask where's Obama underneath the pictures of Al Qaeda members.
 

2Xtreme21

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Where is the option to choose not to vote for neither if it were Hillary vs Obama?

I specifically left it out. My hope was to get a "which do you hate less" from every political affiliation.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
I?d vote for almost any Dem over McCain any day. For the same reason I voted for a Dem against Arnold.

While my primary choice would be someone championing secured borders, an effective foreign policy, the removal of the patriot act, and the dissolving of power from our central government to the states.

There is no one with those values, but I more closely identify with Republicans. While wishing for a true Republican, not a big government ?neo-con?, I?m afraid Washington ensures only Authoritarians sit at the table.

I never thought I'd say this to Jask, but ..

QFT :)
 

theeedude

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I would vote for Hillary over any of these people. I would have voted for McCain in 2000, but now that he is pandering to religious right, plus acting like a rightwinger, no way in hell.
 

imported_Lothar

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I will vote for almost anyone over GWB.
I will vote for almost anyone over John McCain.
I will vote for almost anyone over Sam Brownback.
I will vote for Rudy Guilliani over Clinton and Obama.

I will vote for Chuck hagel over any of the above candidates listed.
 

CaptnKirk

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An excessive majority of the potential voting public is too imature to accept the concept of a Black or Woman President.
However these same cons ( as in CONServative ) will brag and boast about Condaleeza Rice, but wouln't realy vote for her either . .
not even on a bet.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: Lothar
I will vote for almost anyone over GWB.
I will vote for almost anyone over John McCain.
I will vote for almost anyone over Sam Brownback.
I will vote for Rudy Guilliani over Clinton and Obama.

I will vote for Chuck hagel over any of the above candidates listed.

Yea, GWB is going to be a tough one to beat next election... :roll:
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Lothar
I will vote for almost anyone over GWB.
I will vote for almost anyone over John McCain.
I will vote for almost anyone over Sam Brownback.
I will vote for Rudy Guilliani over Clinton and Obama.

I will vote for Chuck hagel over any of the above candidates listed.

Yea, GWB is going to be a tough one to beat next election... :roll:

I was answering the OP's question based on his choices.
Learn how to read.
 

JEDIYoda

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typical poll by a child....
Doesn`t even know GWB can`t run again,,,,whats up with american schools??
 

Arglebargle

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
typical poll by a child....
Doesn`t even know GWB can`t run again,,,,whats up with american schools??

I think the word Hypothetical was included there. After all, an Obama - Hillary question was in there as well.

 

Arglebargle

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Personally I go Obama - Gulliani - Hillary, in that order. I also liked McCain in 2000, but he has brown nosed the zealots so much that I wouldn't vote for him now. I don't think Hillary can win, but I think she would make a perfectly competant president. And at this point I would be happy with any competant president......
 

2Xtreme21

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
typical poll by a child....
Doesn`t even know GWB can`t run again,,,,whats up with american schools??

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?adjective
1. assumed by hypothesis; supposed: a hypothetical case.
2. of, pertaining to, involving, or characterized by hypothesis: hypothetical reasoning.
3. given to making hypotheses.
4. Logic.
a. (of a proposition) highly conjectural; not well supported by available evidence.
b. (of a proposition or syllogism) conditional.
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5. a hypothetical situation, instance, etc.: The Secretary of Defense refused to discuss hypotheticals with the reporters.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hypothetical&db=*
 

Dr. Detroit

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Dems win today. But in 22 months, I think the Dems will have screwed up a ton of things and the republicans will keep the presidency.

 

Balt

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Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Dems win today. But in 22 months, I think the Dems will have screwed up a ton of things and the republicans will keep the presidency.

I don't think there's much they can screw up, except for nominating the wrong presidential candidate (which I think they will). All they have to do is pass bills that the majority of Americans like (and the Christian Conservatives/Neocons like Bush don't) and then vilify Dubya when he vetoes them and things continue to go badly in the Middle East.

If they nominate Hillary they are basically throwing away the election, though. Even a sell-out like McCain can handily beat her in a general election I think.
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Dems win today. But in 22 months, I think the Dems will have screwed up a ton of things and the republicans will keep the presidency.

I doubt that the Dems will get a chance to screw up much. Bush will probably veto any legislation that's liberal in nature, and they do not have enough votes for an override in most cases.
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
If Hillary wins, I'm going to leave the country!

Yeah, Yeah... A bunch of extremely liberal Hollywood types said the same thing about Bush being re-elected. I wish that they would make good on their promises... The Canadian film industry could use an infusion of quality talent :)
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: Arglebargle
Personally I go Obama - Gulliani - Hillary, in that order. I also liked McCain in 2000, but he has brown nosed the zealots so much that I wouldn't vote for him now. I don't think Hillary can win, but I think she would make a perfectly competent president. And at this point I would be happy with any competent president......

Obama can make some great speeches, but he doesn't seem to have enough political experience to lead the nation yet. I also do not think that America is ready for a black president yet. Give him another 4 years.