House Speaker election/circus/all ages carnival - ongoing coverage

[JEDI]

Agreed probably some back room deal was fleshed out which is fine it’s the way our system is designed, where the new guy gets x, y and z done and done exactly how it was agreed upon. No way this dude literally came out of nowhere and had 100% of Republicans say “Yup this guy is perfect”.
I feel the moderate side got something and the looney side got something.

What did Johnson promise to the Looneys on top of what McCarthy already promised?

 

[manly]

Then why did Repubs vote McCarthy out?

I'm not saying Dems would prefer McCarthy around, but he was slightly left of his party center. Also, he did twice choose to put the country first before MAGA bullshit, with must-pass legislation this year. That pretty much disqualifies him to lead the GQP. Most of us are pretty sure that Gym Jordan or the newly chosen Speaker would have chosen the federal shutdown option instead. It is pretty likely that Johnson will choose that door in a month, because what else is the GOP gonna do besides pass some BS slash-and-burn bill that never reaches Biden's desk?

To answer your question, 'pugs wanted McCarthy out because he wasn't sufficiently loyal to the extreme right.

I think the evidence suggests that yes there is some daylight between McCarthy as Speaker and the newly anointed assclown.

This new speaker, it seems the Republicans settled on a "middle of the road" kind of guy conservatively speaking. So if he's the proverbial not too much of something and not too much of the other compromise package deal the nutjobs and moderates finally settled on, it really does expose to the world how that party of theirs has gone off the rails and into a black hole where nothing can come back out. What comes out the other side though, well, we really should be prepared for something much more worse keeping in mind the self-destructive path the party has been on.

You and I have rather different definitions of middle of the road.

 

[eelw]

i Like Lincoln Project's latest tweet:
Johnson, speaker in name only

I dont see him being successful in controlling the wacko Repubs any more than McCarthy

He’s less likely to cave to the Dems when faced with a default. Johnson will drive the car over the cliff

 

[Fanatical Meat]

What did Johnson promise to the Looneys on top of what McCarthy already promised?

More like what did he give to the moderates & swing district R’s to achieve 100% which nobody else has been able to do lately.

 

[brycejones]

What did Johnson promise to the Looneys on top of what McCarthy already promised?

He promised to blow MTG

 

[K1052]

Lmao this man is a huge idiot

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717719059905589503

 

[HomerJS]

I'd like to agree with you but frankly I don't see the US Supreme Court ever issuing any decision actually reducing gerrymandering any time in the foreseeable future. The Supreme Court issued one of it's worst, most anti-democratic decisions ever in 2019 (Rucho v. Common Cause) were they ruled that no federal court may ever consider any lawsuit contesting partisan gerrymandering, holding that issue is up to state legislatures and state governments.

Ironically this horrible decision actually inadvertently opened the door to challenging gerrymandering in the state courts where in places like Wisconsin the absurd partisanship lockhold on state government is finally starting to weaken there. Ever there (and Wisconsin is a traditionally liberal state that actually had Socialist governors in the early 1900s) it is a long slog and so far has required multiple landslide votes in favor of Dems with the GOP still retaining substantial oversize control of the state legislature and courts. It will be a decades long process of active voter participation to bring the scales even remotely close to balanced. On the federal level it will require several decades of Dem control of the presidency and senate to replace the outright "conservative" wackjobs Trump (especially) appointed.

Does that include violations of the 65 VRA? That’s how Ala Republicans got slapped down

 

[HomerJS]

He promised to blow MTG

Noticing MTGs 5 o’clock shadow it would actually be fellatio. No way that broads a woman

 

[HomerJS]

It never ceases to amaze me how the political media has infantilized Republicans. The basic idea seems to be that since we know Republicans are insane morons it’s the job of the Democrats to protect the country from these idiots.

Republicans fuck things up and people expect Democrats to run to the rescue. Clinton left Bush a surplus. Bush then cuts taxes for the rich blows up the deficit and Obama has to fix it. We went into financial crisis and was also left to Obama to fix. He didn’t fix things fast enough and Dems were voted out of Congress. Ingrates.

 

[Pohemi]

He promised to blow MTG

Holyroller into horse cock bestiality. Figures.

 

[Muse]

I sincerely hope he's just marked as the loon he is.

Since the desperate, chaotic, disorganized Republicans seemingly dug him up overnight (perhaps literally, i.e. in a day or less) maybe someone will dig up some serious dirt on this guy. That wouldn't not surprise me a bit. Similar things have happened to lots of "chosen" people.

 

[cytg111]

You and I have rather different definitions of middle of the road.

In GOP terms its the spacing between barrels on a sawed off shotgun.

 

[Meghan54]

Noticing MTGs 5 o’clock shadow it would actually be fellatio. No way that broads a woman

I do believe the term “blow” was used as a generally widely known alternative for fellatio. 🙂

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

This should set Sherman to smilin'.

Russian TV Fawns over New House Speaker Mike Johnson: 'This Suits Us'​

A Russian TV host has explained why she believes Johnson will be of assistance to Moscow in the war against Ukraine.

 

[cytg111]

amazing what cucks every one of these GOPers are. Trump tweets a thing, they all drop their pants and wait for servicing.

Are they all being threatened, daily, by his fucking MAGAT army? I know half of them are completely uneducated, ignorant fucking pieces of shit, but even a lot of them should be able to just say this shit out loud about the prison of Trump world that they have constructed for themselves.
Even knowing what kind of inhuman garbage these people are, I still can't wrap my brain around their complete lack of shame in publicly immolating themselves like this, every fucking day, simply to serve the random narcissistic whims of an 80 year-old dottaring pedophile like Donald Fucking Trump. Seriously--why don't they make the threats from MAGA world more public? Are these idiots so poisoned by tying their self-esteem and identify to the amount of Twitter likes that they get from Trump-inspired Russian bots that they are this willing to shit all over themselves in front of other adults?

I still don't get half of this.

Well if I was a Harlan Crow kind of guy, I’d be sure to have the dirt on the candidate BEFORE I sponsor his run for Congress or whatever. Any other way would just be bad business.

 

[gothuevos]

Dems keep enabling MAGA - started in the 2022 primaries when Dem aligned groups would put out ad buys to promote the MAGA GOP candidates hoping they would get thru the primary round but fail in the general election. This mostly worked, as did joining the vote to boot McCarthy. Yet this has netted them a MAGA Speaker of the House. They are banking that this will hurt them in the general election.

Maybe it will, maybe it won't. It's a gamble. All they're doing is just filtering more and more extreme MAGA types into elected positions. What's the long term strategy? Do they think this will work indefinitely? One day they're going to wake up and find that the entire GOP has been replaced by hard right MAGA types - yeah yeah, I know, no such thing as a moderate conservative anymore, but the Dems are making sure that they too are fueling this change as rapidly as possible.

So what happens when that day comes and they do secure actual control of Congress and/or the presidency?

 

[GodisanAtheist]

After reading Johnson's bio, there is no way he doesn't realize that he is being offered up as the "sacrificial lamb" here.

Basically forward some very unpopular parts of the conservative agenda and then act as a lightning rod for the inevitable public backlash, then get kicked to the curb by republicans. Ideally this is all so the moderates can do the whole "see we tried" schtick and then get a potential compromise candidate in there (working with dems or not).

 

[fskimospy]

Dems keep enabling MAGA - started in the 2022 primaries when Dem aligned groups would put out ad buys to promote the MAGA GOP candidates hoping they would get thru the primary round but fail in the general election. This mostly worked, as did joining the vote to boot McCarthy. Yet this has netted them a MAGA Speaker of the House. They are banking that this will hurt them in the general election.

Maybe it will, maybe it won't. It's a gamble. All they're doing is just filtering more and more extreme MAGA types into elected positions. What's the long term strategy? Do they think this will work indefinitely? One day they're going to wake up and find that the entire GOP has been replaced by hard right MAGA types - yeah yeah, I know, no such thing as a moderate conservative anymore, but the Dems are making sure that they too are fueling this change as rapidly as possible.

So what happens when that day comes and they do secure actual control of Congress and/or the presidency?

In case you didn't notice all the 'moderate' Republicans went along with this so what's the difference? If they were actually moderate five of them could have come to a deal with Democrats and installed their preferred speaker candidate but they chose not to.

So yeah, smart move by the Democrats and they should keep doing it to the maximum extent possible as it ends up with fewer Republicans in Congress/the presidency.

 

[trenchfoot]

I do believe the term “blow” was used as a generally widely known alternative for fellatio. 🙂

Whatever the act is called, methinks a thorough preparatory soaking of Roundup® on the afflicted target zone will have to be done. I hear tell a follow-up discretionary irrigative treatment of hydrogen peroxide or pool grade chlorine is recommended but not required.

 

[eelw]

Okay chicken little getting added to ignore list.

 

[UNCjigga]

Dems keep enabling MAGA - started in the 2022 primaries when Dem aligned groups would put out ad buys to promote the MAGA GOP candidates hoping they would get thru the primary round but fail in the general election. This mostly worked, as did joining the vote to boot McCarthy. Yet this has netted them a MAGA Speaker of the House. They are banking that this will hurt them in the general election.

Maybe it will, maybe it won't. It's a gamble. All they're doing is just filtering more and more extreme MAGA types into elected positions. What's the long term strategy? Do they think this will work indefinitely? One day they're going to wake up and find that the entire GOP has been replaced by hard right MAGA types - yeah yeah, I know, no such thing as a moderate conservative anymore, but the Dems are making sure that they too are fueling this change as rapidly as possible.

So what happens when that day comes and they do secure actual control of Congress and/or the presidency?

I do think there’s an element in the Dem party apparatus that believes once the GOP goes permanently full-on MAGA, the Dems can pick off all their corporate and centrist donors and become the “acceptable alternative”. I do think there’s a risk that once MAGA is in power, they won’t ever give it up as “easily” as Trump did in 2021. And corporate donors care more about serving their interests than any kind of public boycott over candidate funding. They will serve whomever is in power and can grease their wheels.

 

[gothuevos]

Okay chicken little getting added to ignore list.

Nice rebuttal.

 

[uclaLabrat]

I do think there’s an element in the Dem party apparatus that believes once the GOP goes permanently full-on MAGA, the Dems can pick off all their corporate and centrist donors and become the “acceptable alternative”. I do think there’s a risk that once MAGA is in power, they won’t ever give it up as “easily” as Trump did in 2021. And corporate donors care more about serving their interests than any kind of public boycott over candidate funding. They will serve whomever is in power and can grease their wheels.

Im sure the corporate dems/neoliberals think that, but that is wholly incompatible with the need to court pro-union, pro-mainstreet americans that have been fleeced by corporate america. The neoliberals want corporate cash while the AOCs and bernies of the world want to raise corporate taxes and taxes on the elite.

Dems need to figure out who they are, and my perspective is more of the pelosi-wing corporate dems is the wrong way to go.

 

[manly]

LOL Pelosi is a corporatist now?
Compared to the GOP, Dems are somewhat of a big tent party. There is no uniform "who we are" although the elected pols generally get along and understand we're mostly rowing in the same direction outside of a couple Senate DINOs.

Mike Johnson is nothing but a MAGA extremist, as much reporting has revealed. I can't speculate on the GOP's strategy in choosing him except there's unlikely they have a coherent strategy. At "best" their policy goal is to radically shrink the size of the federal government without raising a penny in taxes, and Johnson aligns with that 110%.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717675145962168496

 

[APU_Fusion]

Nice rebuttal.

The only one you deserve. WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE IN A LAKE OF MAGAT FIRE AND IT IS DEMOCRATS FAULT. IF ONLY THEY APPEASED THE MAJORITY LIAR WHO LIED TO THEM WE WOULD BE SAVED. BUT NO, THE TAN SUIT BABY EATING CAUCUS HAD TO STICK TO THEIR GODLESS COMMUNIST, SOCIALIST, FACIST, ATHEIST PARTY AND NOW THEY ARE DIRECLTY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL MAGAT BEHAVIOR.

DEATTTTTHHHHHHH

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