Horrible Temps with Q6600 + Tuniq Tower

Heller

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Ok, just got the rig going ans installed windows, specs are

Q6600 B3 W/ Tuniq Tower + Tuniq TX2 Thermal Paste
Abit IP35-E
2X1 GB Corsair Xms 2 DDR667
XFX 7900GT
WD 160GB Sata II HDD
Samsung Sata DVD-RW
Antec NeoPower 500w Modular
Antec P182 Gunmetal


Here is a Screenshot of my rig running 4 instances of SP2004 (One on each core, SFF Test)

Those temps are pretty ridicoulius and i mounted the Tuniq tower exactly how the manual said, i also used about the size of a rice grain in thermal paste.

What did i do wrong?
 

nullpointerus

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How tight is the cooler? Can you wiggle it?

Silly question, but... Did you mount the fan in the correct direction?

How is your case's airflow? What temps do you see with the side cover off and a desk fan blowing at the Tuniq?

If no one else posts a good suggestion, and you run out of ideas, you might try lapping the cooler or IHS. That'll nullify the warranties on the cooler or CPU (respectively).
 

olmer

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There is no ambient on your screen so 60 may be perfectly fine if room is 30 and case 45. Post it.

Also your voltages are strange as well as FSB @ 272 ? get Everest and stress test it looking at voltages graphs.
 

Heller

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Sp2004 ran for 15 minutes and i got an error.

I haven't stress testing in years but im assuming it got an error and stoped because my rig is unstable?
 

olmer

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Sorry did not see the SYSTIN 32 (I assume a closed case). Yes, pretty high. What is your fan arrangement?

Take the cooler off and check the paste spread. Apply more if not everything covered. Just spread it evenly and thinly. Insure good contact.
 

Markfw

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The temps are okay depending on the OC setup.. It looks like you are overclocking, but you don't have all of your settings listed. Please list them all. It may simply be a bad OC setup.

As an example, my rigs with the G0 chips run low 60's up to 67 !
 

olmer

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Okay, slow ? trying to do many things at once.

Any arrangement is fine with two 120x25 as long as one is intake and another one exhaust.

32 on memory sensor with an open case what is your room ? 25?

If so than 60 is fine.
 

Heller

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
The temps are okay depending on the OC setup.. It looks like you are overclocking, but you don't have all of your settings listed. Please list them all. It may simply be a bad OC setup.

As an example, my rigs with the G0 chips run low 60's up to 67 !

Thats the thing, Im running everything stock, i havent even had a chance to O/C since i just finished the build and did a quick temp check.

I wanted to get this thing to 3.2 but now looks like i cannot even run it stock :(
 

Tempered81

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You're running it stock just fine. 59 59 59 60 is okay, its hot, but okay. No one guarantees an oc. try 3.0 or 3.2 and rerun that test, and check your temps again.

Yours is also a B3 so it will be hotter than any other stepping of a c2d c2q.

ask mark what the avg for b3 q6600s is. I'm guessing 3.1-3.2ghz

 

Markfw

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well I only have 2 B3's, one on an S3@3200, and one on a DQ6@3320. They both run mid 70's at those speeds with Ninja Sythe coolers. 60c stock is good, but it said your were running 272 fsb, and thats not stock. If the memory is running over rated speed, its possible that the problem. (dividers, etc..I know you 333 rated mem)

Edit: and the 3320 one could only do 3000 on a P5K. The only reason it now works is the DQ6 (the only way to go for an OC'ed quad IMO)
 

myocardia

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Heller, nullpointerous was wanting to know if you're sure that the Tuniq's fan is blowing toward the rear of the case, and not toward the front. If it's blowing toward the front, then it would in effect be canceling/fighting against your rear exhaust fan.
 

Markfw

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I just noticed your vcore.. Your motherboard has horrible vdroop even at stock. I would pump some vcore into that baby even at stock. You need 1.35 for a B3, not 1.26. So if you choose 1.40 or more, run the same thing, check the vcore under full load. Up it until its 1.35 under load.
 

Tempered81

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dq6 is the board of champs, wish i had the cash, that was the board i wanted, or the p5k wifi deluxe.
 

Heller

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im trying to over clock, i set the multi to x9 in bios, but its reading x6 in cpu z? whats going on?
 

spinejam

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"Your motherboard has horrible vdroop" and so do most abit ip35's so don't worry about cranking up some more vcore like Markfw900 stated.

once you get a stable o/c, turn on "c1e" and your cpu volts/ temps will improve greatly. :)
 

Heller

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Originally posted by: spinejam
"Your motherboard has horrible vdroop" and so do most abit ip35's so don't worry about cranking up some more vcore like Markfw900 stated.

once you get a stable o/c, turn on "c1e" and your cpu volts/ temps will improve greatly. :)

what setting is that under? this is my first intel build and im not used to my bios yet :)

also what is C1E and what does it do?
 

Idontcare

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Heller did you plug-in the supplied manual speedcontrol switch to your Tuniq fan?

The fan doesn't spin-up at all if you don't install the manual speedcontrol (even if you merely install it to set it to max).

6X in CPU-Z is speedstep helping keeping your idle power consumption low. Turn off C1E and EIST in the BIOS if you want CPU-Z to reflect your 9X multiplier at both load and idle.

There is no harm leaving C1E enabled, but most will recommend you disable it to minimize the number of variables at play when you are attempting to debug issues with your overclock.
 

Heller

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Heller did you plug-in the supplied manual speedcontrol switch to your Tuniq fan?

The fan doesn't spin-up at all if you don't install the manual speedcontrol (even if you merely install it to set it to max).

6X in CPU-Z is speedstep helping keeping your idle power consumption low. Turn off C1E and EIST in the BIOS if you want CPU-Z to reflect your 9X multiplier at both load and idle.

There is no harm leaving C1E enabled, but most will recommend you disable it to minimize the number of variables at play when you are attempting to debug issues with your overclock.

Yes, the fan knob is on high and i can here it spinning very loud.
 

Rubycon

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My B3 QX6700 at 300x12, 1.45 vcore ran in the mid 50's idle and mid 80's loaded with the Tuniq. With the board upright (tower case) the temp would run away so the max safe o/c was lowered to 3.2 with stock volts. Idle in upper 40's load in upper 60's.

It's a B3 and they are hot tamales!

Get this! Switching out the CPU for a G0 Q6600 at 400x9 at default Vcore ran low 30's idle and upper 40's load!

EDIT: Just saw that your fan is on MAX. Hmmm I always had mine set to min so it was inaudible. You may want to check your mounting and TIM spread patterns.
 

Idontcare

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Heller, my bad but I only just know realized you listed your Q6600 as being a B3.

I have G0 Q6600 and B3 QX6700 and B3 is just a dam PITA hellspawn of a quad to tame the heat from compared to G0.

My G0's are under Tuniq, my B3 is under vaporphase cooling. Night versus day for me to overclock a G0 versus a B3. Without phase cooling on my B3 quad the best I'd get is about 3GHz.

You have my pity, I feel your pain, good luck!
 

Heller

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also, whats the highest safest temp this cpu can handle? I remember awith my 939 x2 anything over 60*c was considered dangerous .
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: Heller
are G0 that much cooler? would it be wise to sell this chip and grab a G0? i only payed ~145 for this chip

G0 will probably run 10-15C cooler for any given clock because the voltage needed to hit a given overclock is so much lower.

Should you drop it and spend more? It really depends on what you do with your chip. If you can run 3GHz at 70C and be happy with the performance then I doubt spending another $150 to run at 3.3-3.4GHz will be rewarding.

$140 for a B3 quad is a good deal, you'll double your spending on the CPU just to get another 10-15% clockspeed from a G0.

Temps are safe up to 80C. The chip will throttle itself anyways if it gets to hot (above 90C).
 

Heller

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right now its been peaked at 72*, if i can get this chip to 3.0ghz stable, i will be very happy.

im amazed on how much cooler the g0 is, i mean i knew it was the better stepping but i didn't realize how drastic it was...