Honda NSX -> Ferrari F50 conversion

[Nebor]

I'd be all like, "Man, someone juked half your engine!"

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: Leetman
Yay a ferrari with the soul of a crappy rice burner.

The crappy rice burner is one of the most significant vehicles in automotive history - Ferrari and Lamborghini wouldn't be where they are today if it weren't for the NSX. When it was first introduced, it handed the competition it's ass. Just think, a plebeian car manufacturer, Honda, created a modern supercar that took the automotive world by storm - a notion that made every other manufacturer sit up and listen.

It may not be advance by todays standard, but 12 second quarter miles aren't that far behind. Calling it a crappy rice burner only proves how ignorant you really are.

Not this sh!t again.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I wonder how much weight that added to the NSX.

Idiot took a great car and made it heavier and slower. :thumbsdown:

 

[Kishan]

whos the fvcking moron that said the nsx was a SUPERCAR!!!!! I really am laughing my ass off right now.

 

[DougK62]

The proportions are way off in spots. Nice workmanship, though.

 

[Apex]

It may not be a supercar, but it's at least a pseudo-exotic. I wouldn't mind having an NSX, though I wouldn't want to pay for it.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: SilentZero

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: SilentZero
Ok, then lets use the E46 M3 as an example. As I know first hand the cost of one. That was imported, yet I still saved 35k compared to the NSX, yet it still would wipe the floor with it.

Where are you getting your info from?

The RX8 and the 350Z are as fast as the M3.
The S4, STi, and Evo are quicker than the M3.

So how does the M3 wipe the floor with the NSX?

A RX8 and 350z as fast as the M3? S4, STi, Evo quicker? Are you on drugs? The only reason the STi and Evo are "equivalent" in the 1/4 is cause they are AWD, but get above 100mph and the M3 will destroy them (in stock form), and the M3 is quicker than the S4 in certain aspects (but gotta love AWD). I suggest you get off your computer and get into the real world before you post on things that you know nothing about.

*Note: There are hundreds of tracks and conditions that make a huge difference on what cars perform better. I am referring to overall performance, not only on one particular track with turns every 500 meters (in which a powerful RWD car as the M3, z06, etc) would not perform as well. Im refering to top end, initial speed, skidpad, braking, 1/4, etc. Hell I bet my WRX would out-perform an M3 or corvette in the wet twisties because of awd, but that doesn't make it better.

Yet you're the idiot who seems to be focusing solely on straight-line and top end performance while failing to take in the whole picture.

Just thougth I'd throw in the fact that the v8 Audi s4 loses a straight line drag race with an i6 m3, both stock. Saw it on Top Gear. The Audi only develops one more horsepower than the BMW, but the weight of the v8 slows it down.

The BMW M3 is probably the greatest model car ever made. It's enduring, it gets better and better, and it consistantly wins competitions while remaining affordable. My opinion, of course.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Just thougth I'd throw in the fact that the v8 Audi s4 loses a straight line drag race with an i6 m3, both stock. Saw it on Top Gear. The Audi only develops one more horsepower than the BMW, but the weight of the v8 slows it down.

The BMW M3 is probably the greatest model car ever made. It's enduring, it gets better and better, and it consistantly wins competitions while remaining affordable. My opinion, of course.

The aluminum V8 is actually pretty light, coming within a few lbs of the older biturbo engine. The weight issue is the chassis & AWD.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: Nebor

Just thougth I'd throw in the fact that the v8 Audi s4 loses a straight line drag race with an i6 m3, both stock. Saw it on Top Gear. The Audi only develops one more horsepower than the BMW, but the weight of the v8 slows it down.

The BMW M3 is probably the greatest model car ever made. It's enduring, it gets better and better, and it consistantly wins competitions while remaining affordable. My opinion, of course.

The aluminum V8 is actually pretty light, coming within a few lbs of the older biturbo engine. The weight issue is the chassis & AWD.

Regardless, Audi screwed the pooch by slinging in a huge engine to beat the M3, and still loosing to the m3. That said, I'd say the Audi S4 comes in between the Toyota Corolla and the Honda Accord.

 

[DingDingDao]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: Nebor

Just thougth I'd throw in the fact that the v8 Audi s4 loses a straight line drag race with an i6 m3, both stock. Saw it on Top Gear. The Audi only develops one more horsepower than the BMW, but the weight of the v8 slows it down.

The BMW M3 is probably the greatest model car ever made. It's enduring, it gets better and better, and it consistantly wins competitions while remaining affordable. My opinion, of course.

The aluminum V8 is actually pretty light, coming within a few lbs of the older biturbo engine. The weight issue is the chassis & AWD.

Regardless, Audi screwed the pooch by slinging in a huge engine to beat the M3, and still loosing to the m3. That said, I'd say the Audi S4 comes in between the Toyota Corolla and the Honda Accord.

Did you happen to notice that the Audi S4 posts a better lap time than the M3 on Top Gear?

And as for your Audi S4 coming between the Accord and the Corolla...well, the idiocy of that statement really doesn't require a rebuttal.

EDIT: Your comment about M3s winning competitions--you do realize that GT-class M3s have V8s in them right?

 

[RiDE]

Originally posted by: DingDingDao

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: Nebor

Just thougth I'd throw in the fact that the v8 Audi s4 loses a straight line drag race with an i6 m3, both stock. Saw it on Top Gear. The Audi only develops one more horsepower than the BMW, but the weight of the v8 slows it down.

The BMW M3 is probably the greatest model car ever made. It's enduring, it gets better and better, and it consistantly wins competitions while remaining affordable. My opinion, of course.

The aluminum V8 is actually pretty light, coming within a few lbs of the older biturbo engine. The weight issue is the chassis & AWD.

Regardless, Audi screwed the pooch by slinging in a huge engine to beat the M3, and still loosing to the m3. That said, I'd say the Audi S4 comes in between the Toyota Corolla and the Honda Accord.

Did you happen to notice that the Audi S4 posts a better lap time than the M3 on Top Gear?

And as for your Audi S4 coming between the Accord and the Corolla...well, the idiocy of that statement really doesn't require a rebuttal.

EDIT: Your comment about M3s winning competitions--you do realize that GT-class M3s have V8s in them right?

LOL

 

[SilentZero]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: SilentZero

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: SilentZero
Ok, then lets use the E46 M3 as an example. As I know first hand the cost of one. That was imported, yet I still saved 35k compared to the NSX, yet it still would wipe the floor with it.

Where are you getting your info from?

The RX8 and the 350Z are as fast as the M3.
The S4, STi, and Evo are quicker than the M3.

So how does the M3 wipe the floor with the NSX?

A RX8 and 350z as fast as the M3? S4, STi, Evo quicker? Are you on drugs? The only reason the STi and Evo are "equivalent" in the 1/4 is cause they are AWD, but get above 100mph and the M3 will destroy them (in stock form), and the M3 is quicker than the S4 in certain aspects (but gotta love AWD). I suggest you get off your computer and get into the real world before you post on things that you know nothing about.

*Note: There are hundreds of tracks and conditions that make a huge difference on what cars perform better. I am referring to overall performance, not only on one particular track with turns every 500 meters (in which a powerful RWD car as the M3, z06, etc) would not perform as well. Im refering to top end, initial speed, skidpad, braking, 1/4, etc. Hell I bet my WRX would out-perform an M3 or corvette in the wet twisties because of awd, but that doesn't make it better.

Yet you're the idiot who seems to be focusing solely on straight-line and top end performance while failing to take in the whole picture.

I am talking about the whole picture or do you have trouble reading? I don't mean to be rude, but I was talking about a wide variety of factors (1/4, 60, skidpad, braking, top-end, and around corners) and also included weather, track, and driver considerations. How much more of a bigger picture do you need?

 

[imthebadguy]

this is sad

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: SilentZero

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: SilentZero

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: SilentZero
Ok, then lets use the E46 M3 as an example. As I know first hand the cost of one. That was imported, yet I still saved 35k compared to the NSX, yet it still would wipe the floor with it.

Where are you getting your info from?

The RX8 and the 350Z are as fast as the M3.
The S4, STi, and Evo are quicker than the M3.

So how does the M3 wipe the floor with the NSX?

A RX8 and 350z as fast as the M3? S4, STi, Evo quicker? Are you on drugs? The only reason the STi and Evo are "equivalent" in the 1/4 is cause they are AWD, but get above 100mph and the M3 will destroy them (in stock form), and the M3 is quicker than the S4 in certain aspects (but gotta love AWD). I suggest you get off your computer and get into the real world before you post on things that you know nothing about.

*Note: There are hundreds of tracks and conditions that make a huge difference on what cars perform better. I am referring to overall performance, not only on one particular track with turns every 500 meters (in which a powerful RWD car as the M3, z06, etc) would not perform as well. Im refering to top end, initial speed, skidpad, braking, 1/4, etc. Hell I bet my WRX would out-perform an M3 or corvette in the wet twisties because of awd, but that doesn't make it better.

Yet you're the idiot who seems to be focusing solely on straight-line and top end performance while failing to take in the whole picture.

I am talking about the whole picture or do you have trouble reading? I don't mean to be rude, but I was talking about a wide variety of factors (1/4, 60, skidpad, braking, top-end, and around corners) and also included weather, track, and driver considerations. How much more of a bigger picture do you need?

TuffGuy is actually correct here. You pretty much based your entire argument of M3 > NSX on the highway punch, which is pretty weak considering both cars are nothing special on the highway.. Also, the M3 is a fat pig and would easily get destroyed by a Mitsu Evo or Subaru STi on most tracks with equal drivers.

 

[LongCoolMother]

Originally posted by: SilentZero
Ok..I am not a fan of american cars either, however, if you can show me how a new NSX is better than a new corvette then Ill agree. But heres a few reasons why I don't agree.
1. MSRP on NSX = $90k , MSRP on corvette = 44k in coupe form to match NSX
2. Power/Engine: NSX 290 hp vtech, corvette = 400hp/400ft/lb tq
3. Corvette has a better weight distro.
4. The list continues on....

I personally don't care for corvettes, but just giving you one example of how the NSX is crappy and overpriced compared to an american car that outperforms and outclasses it in most all aspects. Now if I brought german cars in the mix, there would be no end to the NSX's blowout.

its not just the performance and price that matters man. its the spirit. the soul. the heart man. the nsx is one friendly buddy.

just think of it this way. the lancer evo spanks the m3's ass in many aspects. the lancer evo has even been shown to beat down the lambo murcielago. the ford gt will kick the sh!t out of the 360. but does the lancer have more respect than the m3? no. does the lancer have more pride than the lambo? no. does the gt hold a candle to the modena's reputation? absolutely not. so there you have it. an NSX is better than a corvette. its like a dog. an nsx is obedient like a dog, but a corvette is like a tiger. its fast, but it will kill you. will your dog kill you? no, but it will sacrifice its own life for your sake at the paws of the tiger.

 

[Brutuskend]

There was a outfit here in Eugene Oregon several years back that was doing a Fiero / Ferrari kit.

Ferrari sued them they looked to Ferrari like. They no longer make them.

I would imagine these guys will suffer a similar fate.

 

[LongCoolMother]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I wonder how much weight that added to the NSX.

Idiot took a great car and made it heavier and slower. :thumbsdown:

once again, i remind you. young people- all they do is obsess with speed. its a wonder why they drive sh!tboxes everyday, as long as its fast. drive a benz E class? all you get are dissing from the cars that will smoke you. drive a lexus ls430? all you get are insults from integras because they can smoke you.

the nsx is a friend. one who will take you through life. nothing more, nothing less. let him do his job, and let us not discriminate but embrace all types of vehicles.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
NSX is better than a corvette. its like a dog. an nsx is obedient like a dog, but a corvette is like a tiger. its fast, but it will kill you. will your dog kill you? no, but it will sacrifice its own life for your sake at the paws of the tiger.

Um, you haven't driven many mid-engined vehicles, have you? But cool animal analogy, you don't get those often here.

TIGER HAND! RAWR!!!!! RAWRR! rar.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
NSX is better than a corvette. its like a dog. an nsx is obedient like a dog, but a corvette is like a tiger. its fast, but it will kill you. will your dog kill you? no, but it will sacrifice its own life for your sake at the paws of the tiger.

Um, you haven't driven many mid-engined vehicles, have you? But cool animal analogy, you don't get those often here.

TIGER HAND! RAWR!!!!! RAWRR! rar.

Hahaha... :laugh:

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: DingDingDao

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: Nebor

Just thougth I'd throw in the fact that the v8 Audi s4 loses a straight line drag race with an i6 m3, both stock. Saw it on Top Gear. The Audi only develops one more horsepower than the BMW, but the weight of the v8 slows it down.

The BMW M3 is probably the greatest model car ever made. It's enduring, it gets better and better, and it consistantly wins competitions while remaining affordable. My opinion, of course.

The aluminum V8 is actually pretty light, coming within a few lbs of the older biturbo engine. The weight issue is the chassis & AWD.

Regardless, Audi screwed the pooch by slinging in a huge engine to beat the M3, and still loosing to the m3. That said, I'd say the Audi S4 comes in between the Toyota Corolla and the Honda Accord.

Did you happen to notice that the Audi S4 posts a better lap time than the M3 on Top Gear?

And as for your Audi S4 coming between the Accord and the Corolla...well, the idiocy of that statement really doesn't require a rebuttal.

EDIT: Your comment about M3s winning competitions--you do realize that GT-class M3s have V8s in them right?

He's an M3 whore.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
There was a outfit here in Eugene Oregon several years back that was doing a Fiero / Ferrari kit.

Ferrari sued them they looked to Ferrari like. They no longer make them.

I would imagine these guys will suffer a similar fate.

Check this out... and there's tons more like it at kitcars.com. Seems like Lambos are a favorite for these guys.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: DingDingDao

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: Nebor

Just thougth I'd throw in the fact that the v8 Audi s4 loses a straight line drag race with an i6 m3, both stock. Saw it on Top Gear. The Audi only develops one more horsepower than the BMW, but the weight of the v8 slows it down.

The BMW M3 is probably the greatest model car ever made. It's enduring, it gets better and better, and it consistantly wins competitions while remaining affordable. My opinion, of course.

The aluminum V8 is actually pretty light, coming within a few lbs of the older biturbo engine. The weight issue is the chassis & AWD.

Regardless, Audi screwed the pooch by slinging in a huge engine to beat the M3, and still loosing to the m3. That said, I'd say the Audi S4 comes in between the Toyota Corolla and the Honda Accord.

Did you happen to notice that the Audi S4 posts a better lap time than the M3 on Top Gear?

And as for your Audi S4 coming between the Accord and the Corolla...well, the idiocy of that statement really doesn't require a rebuttal.

EDIT: Your comment about M3s winning competitions--you do realize that GT-class M3s have V8s in them right?

You know that wink in my post meant I was coming on to you, right? Because it couldn't possibly have been indicative of the use of sarcasm.

Calm down n00b, don't go off on people when you don't understand forum etiquette.

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: SilentZero

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: SilentZero

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: SilentZero
Ok, then lets use the E46 M3 as an example. As I know first hand the cost of one. That was imported, yet I still saved 35k compared to the NSX, yet it still would wipe the floor with it.

Where are you getting your info from?

The RX8 and the 350Z are as fast as the M3.
The S4, STi, and Evo are quicker than the M3.

So how does the M3 wipe the floor with the NSX?

A RX8 and 350z as fast as the M3? S4, STi, Evo quicker? Are you on drugs? The only reason the STi and Evo are "equivalent" in the 1/4 is cause they are AWD, but get above 100mph and the M3 will destroy them (in stock form), and the M3 is quicker than the S4 in certain aspects (but gotta love AWD). I suggest you get off your computer and get into the real world before you post on things that you know nothing about.

*Note: There are hundreds of tracks and conditions that make a huge difference on what cars perform better. I am referring to overall performance, not only on one particular track with turns every 500 meters (in which a powerful RWD car as the M3, z06, etc) would not perform as well. Im refering to top end, initial speed, skidpad, braking, 1/4, etc. Hell I bet my WRX would out-perform an M3 or corvette in the wet twisties because of awd, but that doesn't make it better.

Yet you're the idiot who seems to be focusing solely on straight-line and top end performance while failing to take in the whole picture.

I am talking about the whole picture or do you have trouble reading? I don't mean to be rude, but I was talking about a wide variety of factors (1/4, 60, skidpad, braking, top-end, and around corners) and also included weather, track, and driver considerations. How much more of a bigger picture do you need?

my best friend OWNS an e46 m3, so you don't need to preach its merits to me.

that said, you repeatedly use top end and straight-line to prove how great it is. to quote you: "but get above 100mph and the M3 will destroy them (in stock form)," "Im refering to top end, initial speed, skidpad, braking, 1/4, etc"

skidpad, braking, they're the same. the evo might actually even be better. gripwise, the nsx has the advantage over an m3 simply because the engine is over the rear wheels, providing excellent traction.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: DingDingDao

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: Nebor

Just thougth I'd throw in the fact that the v8 Audi s4 loses a straight line drag race with an i6 m3, both stock. Saw it on Top Gear. The Audi only develops one more horsepower than the BMW, but the weight of the v8 slows it down.

The BMW M3 is probably the greatest model car ever made. It's enduring, it gets better and better, and it consistantly wins competitions while remaining affordable. My opinion, of course.

The aluminum V8 is actually pretty light, coming within a few lbs of the older biturbo engine. The weight issue is the chassis & AWD.

Regardless, Audi screwed the pooch by slinging in a huge engine to beat the M3, and still loosing to the m3. That said, I'd say the Audi S4 comes in between the Toyota Corolla and the Honda Accord.

Did you happen to notice that the Audi S4 posts a better lap time than the M3 on Top Gear?

And as for your Audi S4 coming between the Accord and the Corolla...well, the idiocy of that statement really doesn't require a rebuttal.

EDIT: Your comment about M3s winning competitions--you do realize that GT-class M3s have V8s in them right?

You know that wink in my post meant I was coming on to you, right? Because it couldn't possibly have been indicative of the use of sarcasm.

Calm down n00b, don't go off on people when you don't understand forum etiquette.

I'd say this is more likely a case of "sucka gets owned then tries to play it off as sarcasm." I've been here so much longer than you, I am well aware of the tricks NOOBS like you like to play.

Edit: I'm going add a wink in case I get owned so I can play my post off as a sarcasm and call the person who owned me a noob.

ok here it goes..

there

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: bR

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
NSX is better than a corvette. its like a dog. an nsx is obedient like a dog, but a corvette is like a tiger. its fast, but it will kill you. will your dog kill you? no, but it will sacrifice its own life for your sake at the paws of the tiger.

Um, you haven't driven many mid-engined vehicles, have you? But cool animal analogy, you don't get those often here.

TIGER HAND! RAWR!!!!! RAWRR! rar.

Hahaha... :laugh: