Homosexual Propaganda

[TechBoyJK]

nebor, look man, im not trying to hate on you, i just dont like your lifestyle choices... it doesnt mean i wouldnt save you from a burning house or something... just try and respect that alot of us dont approve of your lifestyle and realize that ifyou want acceptance, you have to do it by being civil, not trying to push your lifestyle in our faces... telling us we are "homophobes" to make us feel guilty for feeling the way we do is just going to make things worse

 

[rbV5]

Pretty ironic the claims of shoving homosexuality "in our faces" considering the constant barrage of sexuality (mostly hetero) everywhere you look. Sounds like reactionary homophobia to me.

If it takes shock to breed a little tolerance, I'm all for it.

 

[6000SUX]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
in otherwords its a harmless defect.

I'm not sure how you can justify the notion that homosexuality is a "defect", as opposed to a variation in human personality that continues to exist in the human species because it confers some (perhaps not obvious/ as yet unidentified) survival advantages.

That's impossible. An individual survival advantage of gayness doesn't exist, and it would have to result in increased chance of having biological offspring. It's more likely to continues to spring up again and again due to variation, and is helped along by culture. Myopia confers no advantages whatsoever, but continues to exist due to variation and the fact that natural selection no longer applies to the human race.

 

[amdhunter]

I have no problem against gays, as long as they are female and hot.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: bluemax
It is a defect. A male brain is supposed to be attracted to females

god told you that, did he?

I can think of at least 10 reasons why processes of evolution would lead to the creation of gay people.

Please point out the "evidence" that homosexuality is a "defect" - as opposed to being merely a subset of human sexual behaviors which can be acocunted for by evolutionary processes.

the evidence is that you put your pecker in another man's anus. if you are looking at the obvious traits of the human design, that would be a defect.

hmmm... the mouth is designed for eating and breathing, yet people engage in oral sex. Are they "defected"? Is the desire to have oral sex indicative of some kind of mental defect? Your argument is breath-taking in it's stupidity.

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
cancer, aids, etc. could also be accounted for by evolutionary processes...

As can intelligence, creative genius, mathematical genius....

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
homosexuality is a misguided mutation of the human.

Says who? God? The medical community? Fred Phelps?

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
think of it this way... if everyone is gay, our race wouldnt survive because it would be misguided into not producing offspring.....

Think of it this way... if a small percentage of every human population (or every human family) is gay, it will have negligible impact on the total numbers of humans on the planet... and may indeed actually facilitate the survival of the race or survival of individual families.....

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
i dunno... i dont hate gays, like i said, i dont find a need to string them up to burn, it just seems like a behavior that needs correction, like pedophilia, theivery, etc..

I don't know... I don't necessarily hate bigots such as yourself, I don't think you should be imprisoned or executed for the benefit of the larger society, or studied by scientists to determine the causes of your bigoted attitudes (genetic? environmental?).... I do think you should be condemned for your primitive and barbaric attitudes, though....

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
if you get busted for stealing, try telling the cop he's only arresting you because he's jealous he doesnt have the balls the steal...

You are a fool.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
nebor, look man, im not trying to hate on you, i just dont like your lifestyle choices... it doesnt mean i wouldnt save you from a burning house or something... just try and respect that alot of us dont approve of your lifestyle and realize that ifyou want acceptance

I spit on your "acceptance". Acceptance implies there is something that needs to be "accepted" or tolerated. There isn't.

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
you have to do it by being civil, not trying to push your lifestyle in our faces...

Hypocrite.

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
telling us we are "homophobes" to make us feel guilty for feeling the way we do is just going to make things worse

But you are a bigot/ homophobe/ whatever you want to call it. It's just calling a spade a spade.

 

[Toastedlightly]

Well, it seems people can't have an opinion! I for one, am against homosexuality but not homosexual people. Years ago I found out my best friend was gay. Sure, I was started at first, but then things continued as normal. I may not like his lifestyle choice, but I don't hate the man. Hating the person would make me a bigggot.. I'm also against obese people's lifestyle.

 

[Vic]

Ah, aidanjm, you are a greater detriment to your own cause than any "homophobe" could ever be. And I know that many other people, including leftists, have told you this before already here (including EatSpam once, I recall, after you had made a particularly bigoted and hateful remark against straights). You need to wake up and realize that the reason that so many people dislike you as a person has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you are gay. In fact, I am quite sure the rest of the gay community wishes that you would quit using the fact that you are gay as an excuse to be such an in-your-face prick and bigoted heterophobe.

You may now hurl your usual insults.

 

[ValkyrieofHouston]

Originally posted by: Stew
At my high school, we actually have posters showing 2 hockey players kissing passionately that say "SHOCKING? For the homophobes! "

(Posters at my school)

Now that is going too far.

I don't want people telling me what I'm allowed to find offensive or not. I can disagree with homosexuality as much as I want, and that is not homophobia.

There are other posters that say, "HOMOPHOBIA FREE ZONE". Excuse me? So, you're telling me that if I find homosexuals frightening, I can't enter?

Our school celebrated International Anti-Homophobia day yesterday. This, for me is just too much.

What do you guys think about this?

Ok, I'm confused. These posters are actually hanging on the walls of your High School?? Wow, and the parents aren't raging into the school kicking up a ruckus? You must have a very progressive, politically correct school. I'm impressed.

 

[EmperorIQ]

I don't have much of an issue with gay people except for 1 point, why are they so flamboyant? I know a guy who I thought was gay in HS, but he never came out. Acted normal, but there are slight tendencies. When he came out, his hair color changed, he started wearing tight pants, and talked with a softer higher pitched voice. Why is that? I guess I can't tell if its what they naturally are, and its just been supressed or they are just trying to get attention.

I mean, wouldn't it be just as bad as a guy who walks around constantly advertising that he drives a ferrari? Isn't that annoying when someone always brags about how special they are for being something or having something that others don't? I don't know, maybe my logic is screwed up.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: EmperorIQ
I don't have much of an issue with gay people except for 1 point, why are they so flamboyant? I know a guy who I thought was gay in HS, but he never came out. Acted normal, but there are slight tendencies. When he came out, his hair color changed, he started wearing tight pants, and talked with a softer higher pitched voice. Why is that? I guess I can't tell if its what they naturally are, and its just been supressed or they are just trying to get attention.

I mean, wouldn't it be just as bad as a guy who walks around constantly advertising that he drives a ferrari? Isn't that annoying when someone always brags about how special they are for being something or having something that others don't? I don't know, maybe my logic is screwed up.

Newbies feel the need to conform the the stereotype when they first come out. For so long they're outcasts, so when they come out, and pick up the stereotypical tendencies, that makes them a part of a group, something that they so sorely missed when in the closet.

 

[ValkyrieofHouston]

Originally posted by: EmperorIQ
I don't have much of an issue with gay people except for 1 point, why are they so flamboyant? I know a guy who I thought was gay in HS, but he never came out. Acted normal, but there are slight tendencies. When he came out, his hair color changed, he started wearing tight pants, and talked with a softer higher pitched voice. Why is that? I guess I can't tell if its what they naturally are, and its just been supressed or they are just trying to get attention.

I mean, wouldn't it be just as bad as a guy who walks around constantly advertising that he drives a ferrari? Isn't that annoying when someone always brags about how special they are for being something or having something that others don't? I don't know, maybe my logic is screwed up.

I don't think they are bragging. I think you have it in reverse. They are trying to fit into a society where it is not socially exceptable to be who they are naturally. So they act in the way society expects (in this case what society calls "normal"). When they do finally make the decision to "come out" so to speak, they generally feel freerer to be themselves, and act more they way they would naturally (not what society would have them act otherwise) which is considered normal.

I think some people are unfortunately waaay to uptight about sex, and sexuality period. Wether it's heterosexuality or homosexuality.

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Shouldn't they have different locker rooms and showers for the GAYS? I for one wouldn't feel all that safe and I differently wouldn't feel comfortable showering with someone I knew to be gay.

It seems people these days will go out of their way to accommodate homosexuals, but what about the rest of us!?!

I say, separate locker rooms, separate showers and separate bathrooms for straight men, straight women, and gay men and gay women.

Run this past the powers that be at school and see how they feel about the posters then!

I thought you were better than this. What a disappointment to find out you are just as much of a bigot as the rest of the morons here.

This is bigoted how?

Would YOU like someone who you aren't in the least bit interested eying YOU or getting off on your nakedness in a situation you have no control over?

I wouldn't! :roll:

Even if it was a WOMAN I wasn't attracted to, I would feel uncomfortable. So if I feel the same way about a MAN eying me, I'm a bigot?

That proves my point about my earlier statement regarding people being too P.C. these days. If I say I'm not comfortable with a unattractive woman eying me or coming on to me, that;s OK, but if I say the same about a Gay man, I'm a bigot.... :shocked:

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Shouldn't they have different locker rooms and showers for the GAYS? I for one wouldn't feel all that safe and I differently wouldn't feel comfortable showering with someone I knew to be gay.

It seems people these days will go out of their way to accommodate homosexuals, but what about the rest of us!?!

I say, separate locker rooms, separate showers and separate bathrooms for straight men, straight women, and gay men and gay women.

Run this past the powers that be at school and see how they feel about the posters then!

I thought you were better than this. What a disappointment to find out you are just as much of a bigot as the rest of the morons here.

This is bigoted how?

Would YOU like someone who you aren't in the least bit interested eying YOU or getting off on your nakedness in a situation you have no control over?

I wouldn't! :roll:

Even if it was a WOMAN I wasn't attracted to, I would feel uncomfortable. So if I feel the same way about a MAN eying me, I'm a bigot?

That proves my point about my earlier statement regarding people being too P.C. these days. If I say I'm not comfortable with a unattractive woman eying me or coming on to me, that;s OK, but if I say the same about a Gay man, I'm a bigot.... :shocked:

I thought he was way off on that Brut. I still think you're cool. Keep the funnies comin'.

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Brutuskend

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Shouldn't they have different locker rooms and showers for the GAYS? I for one wouldn't feel all that safe and I differently wouldn't feel comfortable showering with someone I knew to be gay.

It seems people these days will go out of their way to accommodate homosexuals, but what about the rest of us!?!

I say, separate locker rooms, separate showers and separate bathrooms for straight men, straight women, and gay men and gay women.

Run this past the powers that be at school and see how they feel about the posters then!

I thought you were better than this. What a disappointment to find out you are just as much of a bigot as the rest of the morons here.

This is bigoted how?

Would YOU like someone who you aren't in the least bit interested eying YOU or getting off on your nakedness in a situation you have no control over?

I wouldn't! :roll:

Even if it was a WOMAN I wasn't attracted to, I would feel uncomfortable. So if I feel the same way about a MAN eying me, I'm a bigot?

That proves my point about my earlier statement regarding people being too P.C. these days. If I say I'm not comfortable with a unattractive woman eying me or coming on to me, that;s OK, but if I say the same about a Gay man, I'm a bigot.... :shocked:

I thought he was way off on that Brut. I still think you're cool. Keep the funnies comin'.

Thank you!

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
nebor, look man, im not trying to hate on you, i just dont like your lifestyle choices... it doesnt mean i wouldnt save you from a burning house or something... just try and respect that alot of us dont approve of your lifestyle and realize that ifyou want acceptance

I spit on your "acceptance". Acceptance implies there is something that needs to be "accepted" or tolerated. There isn't.

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
you have to do it by being civil, not trying to push your lifestyle in our faces...

Hypocrite.

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
telling us we are "homophobes" to make us feel guilty for feeling the way we do is just going to make things worse

But you are a bigot/ homophobe/ whatever you want to call it. It's just calling a spade a spade.

I'm going to have a homophobe pride march! I bet its so easy for you to call anybody that doesnt approve of your lifestyle a hypocrite, homophobe, bigot, etc... its your way out. Its how you justify not liking what you hear. Its how you let yourself free fromfeelin guilty about what you do. Oh, and about spitting, i guess now we know... you spit, not swallow.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
nebor, look man, im not trying to hate on you, i just dont like your lifestyle choices... it doesnt mean i wouldnt save you from a burning house or something... just try and respect that alot of us dont approve of your lifestyle and realize that ifyou want acceptance

I spit on your "acceptance". Acceptance implies there is something that needs to be "accepted" or tolerated. There isn't.

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
you have to do it by being civil, not trying to push your lifestyle in our faces...

Hypocrite.

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
telling us we are "homophobes" to make us feel guilty for feeling the way we do is just going to make things worse

But you are a bigot/ homophobe/ whatever you want to call it. It's just calling a spade a spade.

I'm going to have a homophobe pride march! I bet its so easy for you to call anybody that doesnt approve of your lifestyle a hypocrite, homophobe, bigot, etc... its your way out. Its how you justify not liking what you hear. Its how you let yourself free fromfeelin guilty about what you do. Oh, and about spitting, i guess now we know... you spit, not swallow.

First off, there isn't a gay man alive that spits, they all swallow. And I doubt he feels guilt about what he does. I know I don't. I could push an old lady in front of a bus and not feel bad about it though, so it's kind of hard to gauge. I probably just don't have a soul, and am a tool of the devil, sent to earth to do his work against your Lord.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: bluemax
It is a defect. A male brain is supposed to be attracted to females

god told you that, did he?

I can think of at least 10 reasons why processes of evolution would lead to the creation of gay people.

Please point out the "evidence" that homosexuality is a "defect" - as opposed to being merely a subset of human sexual behaviors which can be acocunted for by evolutionary processes.

the evidence is that you put your pecker in another man's anus. if you are looking at the obvious traits of the human design, that would be a defect.

This reasoning simply does not hold up to scrutiny. It confuses function with purpose.

cancer, aids, etc. could also be accounted for by evolutionary processes... homosexuality is a misguided mutation of the human. think of it this way... if everyone is gay, our race wouldnt survive because it would be misguided into not producing offspring.....

It doesn't follow from that fact that gayness is a "defect." In order to define a defect you must first presume an ideal, and with regard to the behavior of the human body there is no such objective basis to make presumptions about it's ideal behavior.

i dunno... i dont hate gays, like i said, i dont find a need to string them up to burn, it just seems like a behavior that needs correction, like pedophilia, theivery, etc..

All you're doing it projecting your own ideals upon other people, and without an objective basis for doing so.

-Garth

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
What state do you live in?

I dare you to take a PIC of it and mail it to local news stations, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity.

Yes, going way over the top. But I guess it's better than hanging the 10 Commandments, yes?

At least the ten commandments have some appropriate rules, such as no murder, lying, stealing and honor your parents. These would be wrong because anytime the gov't and religion get together ****** goes down.

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: raildogg
I think it is time to put homophobia behind us. I've encoutered people who are too close minded on the subject. They should be educated. Whether this will eduate them or not, I don't know. Gays have been terrible at presenting their cause. Their propaganda has been more harmful than beneficial. Gays should realize that people attitudes will not change right away.

I don't like gay flamers, though. They try to fit in a certain stereotype.

They have no "cause." It's a life choice. People have a right to their own opinion on whether to conclude it's a disgusting lifestyle or not.

It is not a life choice for the most. I doubt people chose the straight lifestyle. I don't want to have this argument again, but I don't think people choose to be, generally speaking.

Ugh, another person that believes in the whole born gay homosexual propoganda. People have a sex drive, just like animals do, to encurage propogation of the species. Two men or two women cannot propgate together, so therefore, it is un-natural for them to feel a sexual attraction towards each other. Emotional atraction is a whole different story, but that also goes by another name...hold on, i cant think of it...wait...oh yeah, its called friendship.


This homophobia protesting is rediculous. I personally find homosexuality offensive. Do I go hanging posters and handing out pamphlets deswcribing why I feel this way? No. I don't. I have an aversion to homophobia because the christian bible clearly spells it out as a sin. All sin disgusts me, some more than others (lying and deception for instance, and also homosexuality, all of which the bible says are abominations to God). I have my right to find homosexuals offensive, as long as I don't engage in any hate crimes, hazing, or other acts of violence because of their sexuality.

 

[newParadigm]

dbl post

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
nebor, look man, im not trying to hate on you, i just dont like your lifestyle choices... it doesnt mean i wouldnt save you from a burning house or something... just try and respect that alot of us dont approve of your lifestyle and realize that ifyou want acceptance

I spit on your "acceptance". Acceptance implies there is something that needs to be "accepted" or tolerated. There isn't.

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
you have to do it by being civil, not trying to push your lifestyle in our faces...

Hypocrite.

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
telling us we are "homophobes" to make us feel guilty for feeling the way we do is just going to make things worse

But you are a bigot/ homophobe/ whatever you want to call it. It's just calling a spade a spade.

I'm going to have a homophobe pride march! I bet its so easy for you to call anybody that doesnt approve of your lifestyle a hypocrite, homophobe, bigot, etc... its your way out. Its how you justify not liking what you hear. Its how you let yourself free fromfeelin guilty about what you do. Oh, and about spitting, i guess now we know... you spit, not swallow.

First off, there isn't a gay man alive that spits, they all swallow. And I doubt he feels guilt about what he does. I know I don't. I could push an old lady in front of a bus and not feel bad about it though, so it's kind of hard to gauge. I probably just don't have a soul, and am a tool of the devil, sent to earth to do his work against your Lord.

lol... w/e you say... my gf swallows.... but i guess thats what "girls" do... and yea, whenever a gay man hits on me, i see it as just that, the "devil" is trying to corrupt me..

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Brutuskend

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Shouldn't they have different locker rooms and showers for the GAYS? I for one wouldn't feel all that safe and I differently wouldn't feel comfortable showering with someone I knew to be gay.

It seems people these days will go out of their way to accommodate homosexuals, but what about the rest of us!?!

I say, separate locker rooms, separate showers and separate bathrooms for straight men, straight women, and gay men and gay women.

Run this past the powers that be at school and see how they feel about the posters then!

I thought you were better than this. What a disappointment to find out you are just as much of a bigot as the rest of the morons here.

This is bigoted how?

Would YOU like someone who you aren't in the least bit interested eying YOU or getting off on your nakedness in a situation you have no control over?

I wouldn't! :roll:

Even if it was a WOMAN I wasn't attracted to, I would feel uncomfortable. So if I feel the same way about a MAN eying me, I'm a bigot?

That proves my point about my earlier statement regarding people being too P.C. these days. If I say I'm not comfortable with a unattractive woman eying me or coming on to me, that;s OK, but if I say the same about a Gay man, I'm a bigot.... :shocked:

I thought he was way off on that Brut. I still think you're cool. Keep the funnies comin'.

Thank you!

By the way. I once made the mistake of using a public toilet in a local park here in town that unbeknown to ME was a gay hang out.

So I'm sitting there minding my own business when all of a sudden a guy walks into the stall I'm using and reaches down and starts to grab me! At first I was in so much shock I didn't know WHAT to say! After the initial shock wore off (no more than a few seconds) I said "WTF are you doing?! Get away from ME!" He says "I'm sorry, I thought, bla bla bla..."

If that restroom had been clearly MARKED, that NEVER would have happened!

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Vic
you had made a particularly bigoted and hateful remark against straights

the remark you are referring to was actually a comment on heterosexual males, as opposed to a comment on heterosexuals in general, or heterosexual women.

Originally posted by: Vic
You need to wake up and realize that the reason that so many people dislike you as a person has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you are gay.

Where do you get that I think "people dislike me because I am gay"? FYI I don't spend much time at all thinking about whether people like my online persona. I don't have a strong need for approval. It's OK if people are irritated by me, or dislike me, I can live with it.

Originally posted by: Vic
In fact, I am quite sure the rest of the gay community wishes that you would quit using the fact that you are gay as an excuse to be such an in-your-face prick and bigoted heterophobe.

You may now hurl your usual insults.

I'm not sure how you could argue that I am a "heterophobe" given I don't support depriving heterosexual individuals of rights or priviledges, I don't dismiss the worth of people per se because they are heterosexual, I don't seek to pathologize or demean heterosexuals for their heterosexuality, etc. Outside of academia, heterophobia is a pretty useless concept, as it doesn't occur in "real life" or even on the internet for that matter. I've never seen or heard of a convincing case of an individual being discriminated against on account of another individual's dislike or hatred of heterosexuals.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
lol... w/e you say... my gf swallows.... but i guess thats what "girls" do... and yea, whenever a gay man hits on me, i see it as just that, the "devil" is trying to corrupt me..

Sweet. I'm glad you said that. Now you look like a nut.

By the way, when me and my boi the anti-christ (you know he's gay, right) take over, I have some really special persecution in mind for you.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Shouldn't they have different locker rooms and showers for the GAYS? I for one wouldn't feel all that safe and I differently wouldn't feel comfortable showering with someone I knew to be gay.

It seems people these days will go out of their way to accommodate homosexuals, but what about the rest of us!?!

I say, separate locker rooms, separate showers and separate bathrooms for straight men, straight women, and gay men and gay women.

Run this past the powers that be at school and see how they feel about the posters then!

I thought you were better than this. What a disappointment to find out you are just as much of a bigot as the rest of the morons here.

This is bigoted how?

Would YOU like someone who you aren't in the least bit interested eying YOU or getting off on your nakedness in a situation you have no control over?

I wouldn't! :roll:

Even if it was a WOMAN I wasn't attracted to, I would feel uncomfortable. So if I feel the same way about a MAN eying me, I'm a bigot?

That proves my point about my earlier statement regarding people being too P.C. these days. If I say I'm not comfortable with a unattractive woman eying me or coming on to me, that;s OK, but if I say the same about a Gay man, I'm a bigot.... :shocked:

If you think gay people need to be segregated to separate bathrooms, then yes you are a bigot. Not to mention foolish. Newsflash, gay men are men - and therefore have every right to be in the men's bathroom or change room or wherever. Gay women have every right to use the womens' facilities. If you really are so paranoid, then you should go to a gym with individual shower cubicles.