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Discussion Homeschooling hot mess

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Moonbeam said:
I see a mixed bag. Public school, the only kind I knew, made me feel stupid as a child. It left me with a need to want to be smart rather that who I am. This need for me turned into ambition rather than defeat but for what reason, so I could point to grades and say I was smart. I see no reason for regret as I can't change what was but I wish in many ways I had a teal teacher who could see my strengths and weaknesses better than what really happened. I could have avoided so much pain, but then pain made me like I am, a seeker.

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I wonder also what I would have become had I an AI handy to answer my questions and teach me things I was interested in. Can you imagine being able to satisfy your curiosity to deep levels any time you gut the =urge? The future could be very bright is the left hand of self hate doesn't stab us in the back and we self extinct when the door opens up to infinity.
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If you make it through Jr. High without out losing any sense of dignity, then you haven't been in this world. It's the age, we were all assholes and the reaction to it by the powers that were, only made it worse. Example: ex-drill Sargent for vice principle who are really just the school's bully, I mean disciplinarian.
Be that as it may, I still wasn't "protected" from that big bad world out there.
 
hal2kilo said:
If you make it through Jr. High without out losing any sense of dignity, then you haven't been in this world. It's the age, we were all assholes and the reaction to it by the powers that were, only made it worse. Example: ex-drill Sargent for vice principle who are really just the school's bully, I mean disciplinarian.
Be that as it may, I still wasn't "protected" from that big bad world out there.
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No, I think not many escape.
 
nakedfrog said:
*her
I guess your intention was indeed unclear, which is probably why I said (paraphrasing) "this response seems weird". This is a thread about things that can go wrong with homeschooling, your post essentially said "bad things happen to kids in public schools too" (uh, again, paraphrasing, to be clear...)
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I thought I was just adding some perspective from what I have learned about child abuse and neglect from my wife being a teacher in a mid-sized city. I wasn't trying to derail the thread. Sorry if it appeared I was trying to divert.
 
Ajay said:
I thought I was just adding some perspective from what I have learned about child abuse and neglect from my wife being a teacher in a mid-sized city. I wasn't trying to derail the thread. Sorry if it appeared I was trying to divert.
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Fair enough, your intentions were unclear to me, hence my response.
 
To me this doesnt sound like home schooling at all. I know people who did homeschooling, they still had the same curriculum as the public schools and final exams were always taken at an exam facility (usually a school). There wasnt day to day oversight and the people teaching didnt need certification but you had to pass standardized tests, this sounds like sheer lunacy. Also as far as I know diploma's around here all have to run through the gov in some way or another, or at least the school boards that have govt oversight.
 
Rebel_L said:
To me this doesnt sound like home schooling at all. I know people who did homeschooling, they still had the same curriculum as the public schools and final exams were always taken at an exam facility (usually a school). There wasnt day to day oversight and the people teaching didnt need certification but you had to pass standardized tests, this sounds like sheer lunacy. Also as far as I know diploma's around here all have to run through the gov in some way or another, or at least the school boards that have govt oversight.
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What state was this in? Many states have right to home school laws now that basically removed all supervision. This was pushed hard by the religious fundies as part of a decades long campaign.
 
Im a little north of you in Alberta, we have a pretty right leaning population here but I dont things are quite this crazy.

What stops colleges/universities and jobs from simply stating we only accept diplomas from actual state accredited schools?
 
brycejones said:
What state was this in? Many states have right to home school laws now that basically removed all supervision. This was pushed hard by the religious fundies as part of a decades long campaign.
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If that’s the case then I assume it’s to keep their pedophilia ring secret. After all that’s what they accuse the democrats of and we all know the right is all about projecting.
 
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This is why people homeschool

Not everyone wants to go to public or private school. School choice is the way, homeschooling is the way. Let people be.
 
GettyRoad said:
This is why people homeschool

Not everyone wants to go to public or private school. School choice is the way, homeschooling is the way. Let people be.
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What, so we can have a bunch of people walking around that make YOU seem like the smart one?
 
GettyRoad said:
Yes, it can be but it is choice. Public schools aren't working for everyone....
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He didn't ask you about public schools.

To be clear your position is that any accountability to make sure kids are actually educated when homeschooled should be optional. Correct?
 
Generally non-public schools are lot held accountable for anything. In NYC the yeshivas get away with an almost criminal level of neglect for their students.

I’m fine with homeschooling, but then we need to have state and local officials auditing that and ensuring people are using public funds wisely. @GettyRoad - surely you agree with this?
 
brycejones said:
He didn't ask you about public schools.

To be clear your position is that any accountability to make sure kids are actually educated when homeschooled should be optional. Correct?
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Homeschooling is like abortion...personal issue, the government should not be involved at all, it's a personal matter. How someone wants to educate their child is their personal matter and not anyone else's.

Yes, there should be accountability, but government shouldn't really be in the home making those decisions.

That's up to the parent or whoever is teaching the child.
 
GettyRoad said:
Homeschooling is like abortion...personal issue, the government should not be involved at all, it's a personal matter. How someone wants to educate their child is their personal matter and not anyone else's.

Yes, there should be accountability, but government shouldn't really be in the home making those decisions.

That's up to the parent or whoever is teaching the child.
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So you're for accountability without any way to actually have it.

Good lord
 
GettyRoad said:
Homeschooling is like abortion...personal issue, the government should not be involved at all, it's a personal matter. How someone wants to educate their child is their personal matter and not anyone else's.

Yes, there should be accountability, but government shouldn't really be in the home making those decisions.

That's up to the parent or whoever is teaching the child.
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I agree but then no public money should go to home schooling and only a GED can be given provided the student takes the test at the same location anyone else would (as in not their house).
 
GettyRoad said:
Homeschooling is like abortion...personal issue, the government should not be involved at all, it's a personal matter. How someone wants to educate their child is their personal matter and not anyone else's.

Yes, there should be accountability, but government shouldn't really be in the home making those decisions.

That's up to the parent or whoever is teaching the child.
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So we agree that home schooling should be funded purely by those doing home schooling, right? No public funding whatsoever.
 
fskimospy said:
So why should we have accountability for public schools and not home schools? Shouldn’t the taxpayers be able to require accountability for their money?
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Because public schools are taxpayer-funded. Home schools are a personal, private matter. No one funds homeschooling, home schooling is grassroots education.
 
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