Homelessness - How do you fix it?

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LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
(notice how I spelted caesar?) No I didn't but we can hope Mr. Nomad Must Eliminate Error doesn't either. I don't actually see letters. I seem to read by geometry, or something. I have a theory that a lack of visual perception of words like you and I seem to have, indicated by spelling problems, is indicative of a brain disfunction the compensation for which engenders a form of cognition yielding abnormal insights into aspects of reality missed by more normative thinkers. :D If not, it helps as a rationalization to compensate for the shame of not being able to spell, no? :D

Yeah... thats about right...
I do read by scanning but, type by trying to stay up with my thoughts so all sorts of things happen... I don't worry about spellink errors cuz as long as the message gets across then Thats the best I can hope for... We bean counters do that alot... I'm told.;)

The pointer outer of errors must get some special "feel good" as they elevate them selves by reducing others but, in reality they have moved nowhere... Unless it is your job.... or if you're grading papers that is...:D
 

colonel

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Turning into a socialist country where you get paid for doing nothing should not be an option.
i think you got the wrong definition of Socialist buddy, cause in Europpe they do a lot and they get paid, but you have the capitalist country where the richest people dont do nothing and they get paid too.
 

Moonbeam

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So a man feeds the poor out of his pocket or donates to a church or votes for taxes to build a civilization too complex for some of it's members to comprenend and then votes to take care of them with taxes as the price of admission to the complex life offered by that civilization, then what exactly is the difference in terms of caring for the poor. Aren't direct and indirect a function more of complexity and scale than good and evil?
 

Zebo

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Does anyone else think it odd this thread shows 345 posts/8pages and it's only a page an a half?
 

Moonbeam

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Carb, some dimwit came in here and posted a couple of hundred times the same thing. The mods must have kindly removed them. Seems like his post count was like 247 or something and they were probably all made right here.
 

NinjaGnome

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There will always be homeless people no matter what. The situation will never change. If you study economics then you will realize that there are always a small amount of rich people a large amount of workers and another small percent that choose to be neither.
 

Moonbeam

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Ninja seems like there will always be some people who look at a thing ans decide that's the way it is and never give it a single thought beyond. It never occurs to them to ask why it is that that's the way it is or if there is any other way it would be under different circumstances. It must make problems easy to deal with though. Ny neck's in a noose, I'm standing on a chair and I'm thirsty. Guess I'll walk over had get a drink.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Ninja seems like there will always be some people who look at a thing ans decide that's the way it is and never give it a single thought beyond. It never occurs to them to ask why it is that that's the way it is or if there is any other way it would be under different circumstances. It must make problems easy to deal with though. Ny neck's in a noose, I'm standing on a chair and I'm thirsty. Guess I'll walk over had get a drink.

Please do? :D :Q :p

CkG

PS - I wouldn't want Moony to hang himself - he provides too much humor:D
 

Bman001

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The selfish man is dying inside. His only satisfaction is to one up you with a new beamer, rolex, a gate around his house but untimatly his family is only waiting for his demise not his footsteps though the door.

Well said, Carb. Our society will not begin to turn around until we learn to stigmatize materialism and reject hypercommercialism. Human beings are more than walking wallets, and the GDP is not the most important measure of a society's success.

 

toant103

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Originally posted by: MachFive
I was talking with a buddy of mine several weeks ago, whose opinions differ than mine, though I respect him because he is usually able to defend them eloquently.

We got on the subject of the War on Iraq, and I asked him what he thought. He stated simply, "We're over there fighting for the liberation of their people, yet we've still got people in this country who are homeless."

And I asked him, "How would you solve homelessness?" And for once, he blanked.

So how do you solve it? Can it be solved? Is it an inevitability until our society becomes so mechanized that every facet of live is provided for us automatically and no one works? Or is there a way to fix the solution in the here or now?

homeless?

I think they should commit a crime so they can go to prison. Come on, the govenement give you food and a place to stay.

:)
 

DerwenArtos12

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we don't fix it. we go on living our sheltered and blind lives like the happy mindless zombies that suceed in this world today. that is how it has been done for centuries and how it will be done for centuries.
 

AgentDib

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Far be it from me to be a killjoy, but do we *want* to house all the homeless? What would parents scare their children with to make them go to school? If we can't tell impressionable kids that they need to study hard in school or end up as a bum on the street, what can we tell them? That if they cut class, don't study, don't work and stand around on corners buying drugs they too can someday live in housing paid for by other people?

I think if you are going to seriously talk about housing the homeless you need to find a replacement "motivator". And while goverment funding could be allocated to the development a huge green alien/monster that eats kids who don't do their homework is that really a better solution than homelessness?
 

LadyJessica

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How about this: we give everyone in the US $1 million and freeze prices on everything for 5 years (including insurance, housing costs, electricity, etc.). Whoever is homeless after that, well, too bad.
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: LadyJessica
How about this: we give everyone in the US $1 million and freeze prices on everything for 5 years (including insurance, housing costs, electricity, etc.). Whoever is homeless after that, well, too bad.

How about a tax policy that induces the employer to hire the laid off or unemployed along with funding for the mentaly ill homeless person... and the transport to the clinic...
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: HJD1
Originally posted by: LadyJessica
How about this: we give everyone in the US $1 million and freeze prices on everything for 5 years (including insurance, housing costs, electricity, etc.). Whoever is homeless after that, well, too bad.

How about a tax policy that induces the employer to hire the laid off or unemployed along with funding for the mentaly ill homeless person... and the transport to the clinic...

I like her idea much better......
 

Moonbeam

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Far be it from me to be a killjoy, but do we *want* to house all the homeless? What would parents scare their children with to make them go to school? If we can't tell impressionable kids that they need to study hard in school or end up as a bum on the street, what can we tell them? That if they cut class, don't study, don't work and stand around on corners buying drugs they too can someday live in housing paid for by other people?

I think if you are going to seriously talk about housing the homeless you need to find a replacement "motivator". And while goverment funding could be allocated to the development a huge green alien/monster that eats kids who don't do their homework is that really a better solution than homelessness.
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It's nice to see that people unconsciously recognize that we live in a world motivated by fear. We need the unimployed and homeless to keep wages from rising. If jobs were worth doing employers would have less profit to pay themselves with. That's why it's never a good idea that people be able to find alternative means of survival. They should be in jail or in constant fear of it.
 

BoberFett

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I hope we do eliminate homelessness. Then I can quit my job and let you suckers take care of me.