Holy Hell!! Look at this Audi accident!

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Lucky

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Originally posted by: KhoiFather
Seriously, if that wreck was to happen, there would be blood everywhere. Even the seatbelt couldn't keep the driver in one place in an accident like that. No way ho zay!



Hi speed fatal accidents are pretty strange things. I've covered more than enough of them as a photojournalist and am always suprised by something I see. My first multi-fatal accident was similar to this one, where a car went airborne at 105 and struck half a dozen trees 6 feet up in the air. I came home with brain matter on my shoes from the 4 people that died that day. But I've also witnessed fatals have left no trace that a person was even involved. Absence of blood doesn't mean much.
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: LittleWolf

And seriously slamming a tree in middle with almost any car at speed is pretty much going to get the same results. BTW surprisingly the driver/occupants of that Audi A3 accident made thru fine with barely a bruise.

Proof?
 

AIWGuru

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Originally posted by: KhoiFather
Seriously, if that wreck was to happen, there would be blood everywhere. Even the seatbelt couldn't keep the driver in one place in an accident like that. No way ho zay!

The driver was probably thrown from the car on impact. Probably about 19x farther than the engine was.
 

AIWGuru

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Some points though:
Look around the engine. That bed of pine needles is completely undisturbed. How is that possible?
Where is all the diesel/oil? That tank would clearly be ruptured yet the bed of pine needles all around shows no signs of fossil fuel.
 

LittleWolf

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Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Originally posted by: LittleWolf BTW surprisingly the driver/occupants of that Audi A3 accident made thru fine with barely a bruise.

What!?!

The person who originally posted the pictures at the Audi World forum had a different report. The car was so mangled that the seatbelts don't even exist anymore. How can you say they made it with "barely a bruise?" (And what's under those white sheets?)


Sorry, my bad. I misread one of the other posted links on audiworld site and apparently it was some-other similar accident where the driver escaped. That said, somehow I find this whole accident a bit suspicious.

 

TGregg

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In pic 10 you can see the engine, off in the distance. It's a ways. I don't know much about accidents, but it sure looks like this was way more than 80 or 90 KPH.
 

Thegonagle

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Originally posted by: TGregg
In pic 10 you can see the engine, off in the distance. It's a ways. I don't know much about accidents, but it sure looks like this was way more than 80 or 90 KPH.

Obviously, the speedometer could not accurately depict sideways (or airborne) velocity, right? Therefore, the cluster readings at the point where the electrical system failed (assuming that point was upon impact with the tree) mean next to nothing here. I also say it was definitely a lot more than 90 km/h. 160-190 km/h (100-120 mi/h) is a lot more likely, IMO.
 

Thegonagle

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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
yea, i am wondering if this is a staged wreck.

anyone prove me wrong?

MIKE

For one thing, you could call the Esmoriz, Portugal police. I'm personally not going to bother, since I'm skeptical that anyone would bother to stage a wreck of this magnitude. (And why would they kill a tree to do it?)
 

Crucial

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Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Some points though:
Look around the engine. That bed of pine needles is completely undisturbed. How is that possible?
Where is all the diesel/oil? That tank would clearly be ruptured yet the bed of pine needles all around shows no signs of fossil fuel.

I agree. One could say that it was moved but why? and why would he be measuring the distance to the engine if it was moved.

The positioning of the pieces are strange. It looks like it spun 180 before hitting the tree. If it hadn't the drivers side would have hit the tree first. Also the front end is on the left and the rear end is on the right sode of the tree. Another strange thing is how did the engine get so close to the road if the front was sheared off and sent flying to the left of the tree. Wouldn't the engine have done the same? It is hard to say for sure where it is tbecause it is only in one of the pics.

The road looks slightly curved to me.

Does that look like a head wrapped in plastinc under the wheel in the second pic?
 

blahblah99

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Somehow the setup/scenario looks set up to me. In the last few pictures, there are almost no skid marks to indicate the pieces skid to stop. Also,

1. The steering wheel is dented. If the driver got thrown out the car immediately on impact (which can mean that no blood is present around the pieces), then how can the steering wheel get dented?
2. If the driver didn't get thrown out immediately and the dented wheel was the result of his head hitting the wheel, then how come there's no blood?
3. A piece of the engine sits in the third to last picture, but the area around it looks untouched, as if the engine just dropped from the sky.
4. In the 2nd to last picture, it looks like the car was coming from the background of the picture towards the foreground, lost control and side-slammed the tree on the passenger side, causing the car to split in half. If those white sheets are covering the bodies, then there's no way that such an impact can only throw their bodies a few feet.
5. Engine is completely DRY. Last I heard, they needed oil, coolant, and fuel to run properly.
6. Glass in the rear trunk/hatch looks uncracked.

But if it's real, my condolences to the families and friends.
 

FriedToast

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Originally posted by: TheChort
Originally posted by: Marauder911
Originally posted by: TheChort
notice how the tree with the door wrapped around it is barely scathed (sp?)
I know trees are strong, but if a car can redefine the word totalled, i figure something would happen to a tree if its that thin.
Look better. The outer bark layer of that tree was sheered off on the bottom (right above the door wrapped around).

I saw that part.
I thought a tree that young would at least be partially uprooted.

Maybe I'm just underestimating trees.


You're underestimating trees. I've seen a similar-sized pine in WA that had a mid-80's model Toy Supra wrapped around it and once they'd peeled what was left off of the tree, you could hardly tell that anything'd happened. There's a reason we build our houses out o' these things ;)