Holy Crap Texas

[Fanatical Meat]

Another lets keep her body functioning so she may have the baby. Here is more info from the family.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/v...-texas-mom-distinctly-abnormal-fetus.cnn.html

 

[Herr Kutz]

Legally, can they abort the child if the mother has not give consent?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Its a dead body, there is no consent required in my opinion. However I get what the state is trying to do here but come on

 

[fskimospy]

Nope. The law makes them keep a brain dead lady on life support so she can deliver a deformed child.

This is freaking creepy.

 

[radtechtips]

Conservatism and Christianity for the win.

 

[glenn1]

Legally, can they abort the child if the mother has not give consent?

If I'm understanding the story correctly, they're not asking for an abortion but rather that the brain-dead mother be removed from ventilators keeping her body "alive" in a narrown clinical sense. The baby dies either way, but there's a big difference between the active act of abortion and passive act of allowing the family to "pull the plug" on the mother.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I know and I wonder what it means for insurance & liability. I'm not sure what happened to this poor woman but lets say it was a car accident. Now the person who caused the accident is liable for a child who may never leave the hospital again that technically never should have been born.

 

[glenn1]

Nope. The law makes them keep a brain dead lady on life support so she can deliver a deformed child.

This is freaking creepy.

Deformed is the lesser problem compared to the hydrocephalus. Survivail is possible and perhaps probable with the former, while mortality is vastly higher in the later.

 

[Texashiker]

so she can deliver a deformed child.

Do you know who Sean Stephenson is?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Do you know who Sean Stephenson is?

I do not who is he?

 

[brycejones]

Another lets keep her body functioning so she may have the baby. Here is more info from the family.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/v...-texas-mom-distinctly-abnormal-fetus.cnn.html

The law that is driving these cases has to be one of the most retarded pieces of legislation to ever be pushed by the pro-life crowd.

Hope the state is picking up the tab for the forced medical care.

 

[Texashiker]

I do not who is he?

Before people dismiss deformed children they need to take a look at Sean Stephenson.

Go watch one of his youtube videos. I like the one where is his talking about being an aid at the white house.

Found it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCDqCLhrtNY

You got to watch the video all the way through. The end is a tear jerker.

 

[Moonbeam]

If I'm understanding the story correctly, they're not asking for an abortion but rather that the brain-dead mother be removed from ventilators keeping her body "alive" in a narrown clinical sense. The baby dies either way, but there's a big difference between the active act of abortion and passive act of allowing the family to "pull the plug" on the mother.

You can't passively pull a plug but nice try.

 

[radtechtips]

You can't passively pull a plug but nice try.

No, but allowing the family to do it is passive.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The law that is driving these cases has to be one of the most retarded pieces of legislation to ever be pushed by the pro-life crowd.

Hope the state is picking up the tab for the forced medical care.

I was wondering this too, I am assuming its the hospital, like the Jindhal case I doubt insurance will pay for a deceased person. However it may be part of the legislation but I really don't know.

 

[umbrella39]

This serves no one any good. The family, the medical staff abhorred by what they are being forced to be part of and witness. This is not a brittle boned baby born to a viable mother who later went on to be a motivational speaker... This unborn baby was deprived of oxygen at 14 weeks for an undetermined amount of time who will more than likely not survive outside the womb even if somehow carried to near term. Suits, making life decisions for dead people and their deformed baby. Exactly what Jesus would do...

 

[fskimospy]

This is also being done against her expressly stated wishes that came before her brain death.

What's interesting is that the legal analysis I've read is just saying that the hospital is acting stupidly. Brain death is one of many ways people can be declared legally dead, therefore there appears to be no obligation of the hospital to keep her body functioning in other ways.

Additionally since the fetus was/is not viable there is a constitutional guarantee of the right to abortion here. Seems like a no-brainer. (har har)

 

[Texashiker]

who will more than likely not survive outside the womb even if somehow carried to near term.

One time when I was playing little league baseball I hit a line drive ball that went to the shortstop player.

Out of the corner of my eye I saw the shortstop jump up and catch the ball.

You know what I did? I stopped running, turned around and started walking back to the dugout.

What I did not see was the shortstop player dropped the ball, picked it up, then threw the ball to first base. I did not see it because I had my head down as I walked back to the dugout.

What did I learn from that? You never give up, ever. You run as fast and as hard as you can. When the umpire calls you out, then you are out, and not a second before.

 

[radtechtips]

One time when I was playing little league baseball I hit a line drive ball that went to the shortstop player.

Out of the corner of my eye I saw the shortstop jump up and catch the ball.

You know what I did? I stopped running, turned around and started walking back to the dugout.

What I did not see was the shortstop player dropped the ball, picked it up, then threw the ball to first base. I did not see it because I had my head down as I walked back to the dugout.

What did I learn from that? You never give up, ever. You run as fast and as hard as you can. When the umpire calls you out, then you are out, and not a second before.

That's probably the worst sports analogy I've ever heard.

 

[Mxylplyx]

As soon as her warm corpse delivers the child, the state will promptly cease to give a shit about the child. She'll probably be called a deadbeat mother too.

 

[brycejones]

She'll probably be called a deadbeat mother too.

Oh that's just wrong.....

 

[Moonbeam]

No, but allowing the family to do it is passive.

Allowing is active not passive but I figured this was coming. This is why we accuse the apathetic of apathy. That is why we say that in order for evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.

 

[cyclohexane]

One time when I was playing little league baseball I hit a line drive ball that went to the shortstop player.

Out of the corner of my eye I saw the shortstop jump up and catch the ball.

You know what I did? I stopped running, turned around and started walking back to the dugout.

What I did not see was the shortstop player dropped the ball, picked it up, then threw the ball to first base. I did not see it because I had my head down as I walked back to the dugout.

What did I learn from that? You never give up, ever. You run as fast and as hard as you can. When the umpire calls you out, then you are out, and not a second before.

WTF? What kind of logic and analogy is this? Did you ever finish school?

 

[Texashiker]

WTF? What kind of logic and analogy is this? Did you ever finish school?

Did you play sports?

Or have you lived in your moms basement your whole life?

 

[Paratus]

Texashiker is a fan of using the state to force a dead women's corpse to be used to gestate a deformed fetus, in an effort to have it born alive to quickly die in agony and you expect his sports analogy to make sense?!