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Originally posted by: Kobota
wiki death toll organized by event

Genocide and democide
40,000,000 - Mao Zedong's Regime (China, 1949-1975)
20,000,000?62,000,000 - Stalin's regime (1924-53), (not including WWII)[1].
11,000,000?19,000,000 - Slave trade in Islamic World over 1200 years (7th - 19th century)
6,000,000?60,000,000 - African and Atlantic slave trade (16th - 19th century)
5,000,000?12,000,000 - Nazi internments and Holocaust in Europe
6,000,000 - Jews
3,000,000 - victims of camps of other nationalities, mostly Eastern European
2,600,000?4,000,000 Soviet prisoners of war
1,000,000+ - Political prisoners
250,000?1,000,000 Roma
70,000?275,000 Handicapped
10,000?220,000 Homosexuals
5,000,000?10,000,000 - Congo Free State, (1877 - 1908)
2,000,000?100,000,000 - Destruction of Native Americans (after 1492) The estimates involved are controversial. For details of the controversy, see the linked article.
2,000,000?3,000,000 - Pol Pot's communization program (Cambodia, 1975-1979)
1,000,000?3,000,000 Armenian Massacres (1895-1923) Heavily Disputed. Most cited number is 1.5 million. The Turkish government denies the genocide and accuses the Armenians of killing Turks instead
30,000?300,000 - Hamidian (First Armenian) Massacre (1895-1896)
6,000?30,000 - 1909
600,000?2,000,000 - Second Armenian Massacre (1915-1918)
250,000?500,0000 - (1919-1923)
800,000?1,000,000 - Partition of India and Pakistan, (1947-1948)
500,000?1,500,000 - Degars killed in Vietnam, (Vietnam,1975 - present)
~400,000 - Ustasha/Independent State of Croatia genocide of Serbs, Jews, Roma people during World War II (1941-1945)
300,000 - Idi Amin's dictatorship (Uganda, 1971-1979)
260,000 - Greeks killed in Asia Minor (Turkey, 1912 - 1923)
250,000?1,000,000 - Massacre of alleged communists, (Indonesia, 1965-1966)
182,000 - Al-Anfal Campaign (Iraq, 1986-1989)
130,000-200,000 - civil war and highland massacres (Guatemala, civil war 1962-1996; intense period of highland massacres, early 1980s)
40,000?100,000 - Herero massacre, (Namibia, 1904-1908)
30,000 - Dictatorship of François "Papa Doc" Duvalier, (Haiti, 1964 - 1971)
10,000 - Bosnian Genocide
10,000?30,000 Argentina's Dirty War, (Argentina, 1976 - 1983)
18,000 - Duke of Alba (Spanish Netherlands, 1567-1573)
15,000?18,000 - Dictatorship of Fidel Castro, (Cuba, 1959 - present)
3,000 - Augusto Pinochet's dictatorship (Chile, 1973 - 1990)


Individual massacres, air raids, and concentration camps
1,100,000 - Auschwitz concentration camp (Oswiecim, Poland, 1940-1945)
937,000 - Genocide in Rwanda (Rwanda, 1994)
700,000?1,000,000 - Treblinka extermination camp, (Treblinka, Poland, 1942-1943)
500,000?900,000 - 1938 Huang He flood, caused by sabotage in the Second Sino-Japanese War (1938)
260,000 - Sobibór extermination camp
250,000?800,000 - Sack of Baghdad by Hulagu Khan (1258)
220,000 - Massacre of the Helvetii (58 BC)
200,000+ - Sack of Moscow by Crimean Tatars, 1571
100,000?300,000 - Jews massacred in Poland by the Cossacks led by Chmielnitzki, (1648 - 1649)
100,000 - Massacre of Romans by Mithridates VI Eupator (Anatolia, 88 BC)
100,000 Tokyo firebombing,1945
100,000 - Manila Massacre (Manila, Philippines, 1945)
70,000 - Sack of Merv by Genghis Khan (1221)
70,000 - St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre (France, 1572)
66,000?237,062 - Hiroshima Bombing (Japan, 1945)
60,000?100,000 - Sack of Jerusalem, First Crusade (1099)
50,000?350,000 - Rape of Nanking, China (1937)
50,000 - Bombing of Hamburg in World War II (Germany, 1943)
39,000?108,000 - Nagasaki Bombing (Japan, 1945)
30,000?40,000 - massacred in Novgorod by Ivan the Terrible
30,000 - Babi Yar Yom Kippur Jewish Massacre (Kiev, Ukraine, 1941)
25,000?60,000 Bombing of Dresden in World War II, (Germany,1945)
25,000 - Sack of Magdeburg (Thirty Years War, Germany, 1631)
20,000 - Sack of Baghdad by Timur (1401)
20,000 - Massacre of Praga (Poland, 1794)
14,000 - Haitians massacred by Rafael Leónidas Trujillo's government. (Dominican Republic, 1937)
12,000 - La matanza (El Salvador, 1931)
10,000?30,000 228 Incident, (Taiwan, 1947)
10,000 - Sack of Béziers (Albigensian Crusade, France, 1209)
8,000 - Srebrenica massacre (Srebrenica, Bosnia and Herzegovina, 1995)
7,000 - Massacre in Thessalonika by Theodosius I (Byzantine Empire, 390)
7,000 - Zulus killed at the death of Nandi, mother of Shaka (1827)
5,000?12,000 - Massacre of Indians and Arabs in Zanzibar (Zanzibar, Tanzania, 1964)
5,000?7,000 - Halabja poison gas attack (Halabjah, Iraq, 1988)
5,000 - Massacre of Mamluks (Egypt, 1811)
1,645 - Guernica (1937)
900 - El Mozote Massacre (El Salvador, 1981)
622 - Jamestown Massacre (1622)
379?1,000 - Jallianwala Bagh Massacre (Amritsar, India, 1919)
360 - Wyoming Valley Massacre (Pennsylvania, United States, 1778)
347?504 - My Lai Massacre (Vietnam, 1968)
328?5,500 - Sabra and Shatila Massacre (Lebanon, 1982)
320 - Bloody Assizes (England, 1685)
300 - Weenen Massacre (Natal, South Africa, 1838)
300 - Wounded Knee Massacre (South Dakota, United States, 1890)
268 - Plan de Sánchez massacre (Guatemala, 1982)
192 - Tartu Massacre (Estonia, 1944)
150?200 Lawrence Massacre (Kansas, 1863)
150 - Sand Creek Massacre (Colorado, United States, 1864)
120 - Mountain Meadows Massacre (Utah, United States, 1857)
119 - Bojayá Massacre (Chocó, Colombia, 2002)
113 - Waxhaw Massacre (South Carolina, United States, 1780)
111 - Carandiru Massacre (São Paulo, Brazil, 1992)
100?300 - Waterloo Creek Massacre (Australia, 1838)
91?200 - Kristallnacht (Germany, 1938)
78 - Massacre of Glencoe (1692)
67 - Hebron 1929 Massacre (Palestine, 1929)
45?60 Acteal massacre (Mexico, 1997)
 
Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
Originally posted by: Powermoloch
LOL stalin wins on this one

you have to give Stalin one thing though, he made the USSR into a superpower


Yeah I know :roll: . Had you heard his voice recently, very high pitched, I was surprised :shocked:
 
For a real answer to the original question I think it has do with a number of factors. First, as someone accurately pointed out before, Armenia is not in Europe. It is not part of a world power (although I guess the Ottoman Empire could have been considered a declining world power at the time). This means it simply does get the press our euro-centered histories provide.

Second, and more critically, the Turks to this day deny the Armenian Genocide. They have restricted research, travel, and publicity of the event. Unlike the Germans who admit what happened which makes the publication and dialogue about genocide much stronger in the case of the Holocaust.

Also, there are many physical representations of the holocaust throughout Europe, over 100 concentration camps and deportations centers scattered throughout Germany, France, Russia, Romania, Italy, etc. This evidence stands today. In Armenia there is nothing but desert. Without real symbolic representations of the genocide, it is hard to remember such an event.

Both genocides were horrific events, both should be publically decried as equally murderous and yet we still sit by and watch as genocide unfolds.
In 1994 over 600,000 people died in less than 100 days in Rwanda and, even now, between 200,000 - 400,000 people have been killed in Darfur with nearly 2.5 million people being displaced. Despite our recent history with genocide, despite president bush's declaration of "not on my watch," the international community sits by and watches as yet another population is ruthlessly slaughtered.

Truly it is a shame.
 
Originally posted by: The Godfather
How come everyone says the Jewish Hollocaust is so terrible and the whole world is familiar with it. (It was really terrible)

But no one hardly ever mentiones the Armenian Hollocaust by the Turks. Which was the most massive killings and slaughters the world has ever seen to this day.

Why?

I knew an armenian girl in 4th grade, she was my first crush. I didn't know what the armenian holocaust was then, but I feel bad now. 🙁


I think it's cause in school we're beat of the head with the holocaust, we have to hear about it constantly. I'm sick of it to be honest, there's been so many genocides throughout history, and this ONE gets all the attention. I can't stand it. People just want to feel pious so they talk about horrible this one holocaust was, but they dont' want to be TOO involved, so they ignore the other ones.
 
Originally posted by: The Godfather
600 Billion. Smartass, there aren't even 7 billion people on the whole planet.
This coming from the guy who thinks there are two Ls in "holocaust"...
 
Originally posted by: hjo3
Originally posted by: The Godfather
600 Billion. Smartass, there aren't even 7 billion people on the whole planet.
This coming from the guy who thinks there are two Ls in "holocaust"...


I'm sorry but English is so fvcked up i expected 2 Ls in Holocaust.
 
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