Hogwarts Legacy

[Stuka87]

...sooo ....
is this a fps? arcade? turn-based? you've gone on 2 pages talking about stutter and social politics, but not a single mention of gameplay.

It is an open world RPG-Light game.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Here are the system requirements. A 980Ti should be fine, though I am sure a lot settings will need to be set down. 32GB of RAM is NOT needed unless the settings are set higher than the available VRAM on the GPU can handle. Give it lower settings, and 16GB will work ok.

• CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 (3.3Ghz) or AMD Ryzen 5 1400 (3.2Ghz)
• RAM: 16 GB.
• VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 4GB or AMD Radeon RX 470 4GB.

-Thanks for the info.

Found the following chart posted in one of the GPU threads. Looks like 30FPS is absolutely doable with ultra settings and maybe even 60 with some dropped settings or FSR (exactly the scenario upscaling tech is meant for IMO):

Edit: We'll there ya go folks, my very first full price game purchase since... Mass Effect 3. Gifted to my wife's steam account for Valentine's.

 

[Stuka87]

Looks like 30FPS is absolutely doable with ultra settings and maybe even 60 with some dropped settings or FSR (exactly the scenario upscaling tech is meant for IMO):

Yeah, this is a great use case for FSR. And also another great thing about open standards that aren't proprietary and artificially forced to only work on new hardware.

 

[DigDog]

i've seen the gameplay videos now, all i could see really was a atrocious AI just standing there waiting to get nuked.

 

[sze5003]

I'm enjoying the game so far. The castle is huge and I haven't made it out in the open world except for Hogsmeade to gather my things. On PS5 performance mode runs it at 1440p 60fps but the visuals in my opinion look better when I have the game set to Balanced mode.

I have an LG C8 4k tv which is pretty old so I don't have VRR or 120hz but for some reason Balanced mode runs it smooth and it looks better than Performance..where at least some of the shadows and lighting are reduced.

 

[Stuka87]

I'm enjoying the game so far. The castle is huge and I haven't made it out in the open world except for Hogsmeade to gather my things. On PS5 performance mode runs it at 1440p 60fps but the visuals in my opinion look better when I have the game set to Balanced mode.

I have an LG C8 4k tv which is pretty old so I don't have VRR or 120hz but for some reason Balanced mode runs it smooth and it looks better than Performance..where at least some of the shadows and lighting are reduced.

Performance degrades visuals for better FPS. Balanced has better visuals. And if your TV is 60Hz, there is no reason to run it on performance.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Ok, got the game downloaded and prepped for the wife (initial load and shader compile completed, settings squared away, at the acceptance letter screen).

Note, the "run benchmark" option here doesnt seem to actually run a benchmark, just detect your recommended system specs. Weird.

These menu controls, what the actual ****. Controller moves a cursor in the menus. It's not a good menu setup and I get the complaints about bad menu controls already.

Wife will play it after we get our spring planting sorted out.

 

[sze5003]

Performance degrades visuals for better FPS. Balanced has better visuals. And if your TV is 60Hz, there is no reason to run it on performance.

From my understanding of how the different modes work for the console is that Balanced is supposed to be for VRR Tv's or 120hz Tv's since balanced mode is supposed to target 40hz/40fps. So I'm confused why I get decent performance with balanced since my tv is pretty old.

Performance is constant 60fps at 1440p but in this title performance isn't like performance mode in god of war where it still looks great.

It looks good on performance but you can tell there are downgraded environment visuals.

There's also high performance mode (HFR) which is supposed to target 120hz if your tv supports it.

Fidelity and fidelity ray tracing target 30fps but no way I'm using these two on the PS5.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

FYI, this game has something I have never seen or heard of before: Nvidia NIS (Nvidia Image Scaling).

Given my 980ti is too old for DLSS, this looks like a shader based upscaling solution for older NV cards not dissimilar to FSR 2 (still proprietary though).

Has anyone heard of this or is this some weird shadow launched thing that will slowly gain attention over time?

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Alright, wife played through the intro and got to the point in the game where you go to your first couple classes. Kids and I were giving her a hard time from the peanut gallery cause it's been a long time since she's used a controller and watcher her fight the controls was painful for all of us (kids and I couch co-op game on the regular, so it's old hat for us).

Reporting back on the 2200g + 980ti + 16gb RAM system.

Everything set to low, FSR 2.0 Quality, 1080p.

The game ran fantastically well and looked pretty incredible to boot even on low settings. The ghosting and smudgyness from FSR 2.0 at 1080p was reasonably noticable when dark colors contrasted against bright backgrounds, but not to bad otherwise and definitely nothing that detracted from my wife's experience (last 3rd person game she played was Zelda Twilight Princess so more or less anything is a major visual upgrade for her).

Didnt have a proper FPS counter up, but these old eyes would guess we were pulling a pretty steady 50-60FPS the whole time.

I can't understate how good the game looked even at all low settings. The days of low = potato graphics and High = Valhalla seem to be well behind us.

Game looks fun too. Combat seems nice and engaging with protection spells and attacks. Magic is obviously used to sort out some basic puzzles and the like. Look forward to seeing how the game continues to unfold.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

FYI, this game has something I have never seen or heard of before: Nvidia NIS (Nvidia Image Scaling).

Given my 980ti is too old for DLSS, this looks like a shader based upscaling solution for older NV cards not dissimilar to FSR 2 (still proprietary though).

Has anyone heard of this or is this some weird shadow launched thing that will slowly gain attention over time?

I have been aware of it about a year now. I'd pick FSR between the 2 when the option is available.

 

[DigDog]

this is funny and relevant

 

[Sulaco]

this is funny and relevant

I was so triggered just watching that video and imagining people doing what they want to be doing without consulting my feelings first, I had to cancel myself.
I hope you're happy.

 

[blckgrffn]

Has this outsold CyberPunk 2077 yet? It will be interesting when this less than superbly optimized title will supplant that one in terms of benchmark relevance.

2077 was supposed to be the game we all played while it appears this one is the game
everyone is playing…

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Has this outsold CyberPunk 2077 yet? It will be interesting when this less than superbly optimized title will supplant that one in terms of benchmark relevance.

2077 was supposed to be the game we all played while it appears this one is the game
everyone is playing…

- Would be shocked if it hasn't. Last couple nights the kids and I crowd around my wife while she plays the game in lieu of our usual before bed cartoon and snuggle. My daughter flat our refused to go to bed until my wife reached Hogsmeade.

Its so much more accessible and broadly appealing than something like Cyberpunk, which essentially only had CDProject Fanboyism behind it.

 

[nakedfrog]

- Would be shocked if it hasn't. Last couple nights the kids and I crowd around my wife while she plays the game in lieu of our usual before bed cartoon and snuggle. My daughter flat our refused to go to bed until my wife reached Hogsmeade.

Its so much more accessible and broadly appealing than something like Cyberpunk, which essentially only had CDProject Fanboyism behind it.

I don't disagree that it would be more broadly appealing, but I do disagree that it essentially only had CDProjekt fans behind it (I'm interested in playing in it in a couple years, because I like cyberpunk stuff, I'm overall pretty neutral on the company itself)

 

[GodisanAtheist]

I don't disagree that it would be more broadly appealing, but I do disagree that it essentially only had CDProjekt fans behind it (I'm interested in playing in it in a couple years, because I like cyberpunk stuff, I'm overall pretty neutral on the company itself)

-Yeah I mean there were other pathways to the hype but with Witcher 3 being hailed as the Messiah of open world RPGs and such good writing and such a well built open world and such... combat; CDPR was really being lauded as the "keeper of the flame" for RPGs after Bioware sold it's soul. I mean it turned out Witcher 3 was more of a fluke than the norm, but hey.

The constant delays only brought the hype to feverish proportions with so many "A rushed game is forever bad, a delayed game is eventually good" -Shirgu "You Know I said this before patches existed" Myamoto quotes/memes.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Worth to buy?

- I've played a little but I've watched my wife play more.

I think if you're a HP fan and love the world and the idea of seeing all of Hogwarts, and you have a reasonably modern gaming PC or next gen console, it's a no brainer go ahead and buy it.

OTOH if you're not really into HP or aren't looking for "deep cuts" on the world's lore etc, or have a relic of a PC/last gen console, wait for a deep discount or sale.

The game is a pretty straight forward paint by numbers open world game. The combat etc is all perfectly serviceable but also nothing groundbreaking. Lots of checklists and "puzzles" where you're given the solution 5 seconds after being exposed to the problem. The whole schtick is the wizarding world and if that's not your thing then it's just another game.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

This game is surprisingly fun. I am only 16% into the story so wandering around the countryside fighting dark wizards is challenging. I don't know if it changes later, but the trolls are just bullet sponges basically. Wish they had more attacks to make it more interesting.

It is a great looking game, and so far bug free. The ray tracing effects could have all been done with raster, increase performance and look as good or better.

 

[igor_kavinski]

The ray tracing effects could have all been done with raster, increase performance and look as good or better.

It's a bad implementation with not much visual improvement and only worth turning on maybe 5 years from now with a $200 card.

Hogwarts Legacy Benchmark Test & Performance Analysis Review - VRAM Usage Record

Hogwarts Legacy lets you relive the steps of Harry Potter and is a fantastic adaptation of the books. In our performance review, we're taking a closer look at image quality, differences between the graphical setting presets, VRAM usage, and performance on a selection of modern graphics cards.

www.techpowerup.com

It also seems to be broken on AMD cards where the XTX gets beaten by A770 16GB at 1080p.



I mean, SMH.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Thanks my friend, but that article is badly dated. Many updates since then. Make no mistake however, on my 7900XTX at 1080 ultra with ultra RT effects all on, it can dip in to the high 30s in demanding areas. FYI it's the shadows that are nerfed. All ultra with shadows off is locked 60 without breaking much of a sweat.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

This game is surprisingly fun. I am only 16% into the story so wandering around the countryside fighting dark wizards is challenging. I don't know if it changes later, but the trolls are just bullet sponges basically. Wish they had more attacks to make it more interesting.

It is a great looking game, and so far bug free. The ray tracing effects could have all been done with raster, increase performance and look as good or better.

- It's a remarkably good first effort but I look forward to a sequel that hopefully adds more variety to the game and makes it a bit more of a "Bioware" style RPG than the Ubisoft game it is at the moment.

If you're 16% into the game, outside of the story, you've more or less seen just about everything the game has to show you in terms of gameplay.

Edit: Given it's a WB game, it would be siiiiiick to have a Wizard Nemesis system like the LOTR Shadow games.

Give me my own Grindelwald or Voldemort to fight....

 

[JTsyo]

Got it for my son, he put in about 3 hours and lost interest. Seems he prefers the online browser games.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Has this outsold CyberPunk 2077 yet? It will be interesting when this less than superbly optimized title will supplant that one in terms of benchmark relevance.

2077 was supposed to be the game we all played while it appears this one is the game
everyone is playing…

It's the future now, and the Nvidia tech showcase has been updated to maintain its relevance to benchmarks. Choking out even the most powerful GPUs with path tracing. Which while some rave about, just makes more areas too dark IMO. While providing nothing else I stop to notice. I dislike how flat most everything is too; all shiny and sleek. It's why you don't need a lot of VRAM. RIP a bunch of players CPUs with crowds turned up and RT on too. So now they can concentrate on those shiny and sleek cars and puddles because the world they are traversing is uninhabited. 🤣

Hogwarts reminds me of RDR2 visually outside, and that's a very good thing. Fun fact: I watched Goblet of Fire last night since the game has sucked me in. Reflections are a lot like the game for mirrors. In the movie they appear to be silver coated with patina. I thought that was interesting as complaints about those reflections in the game were rampant at launch. The complaints about RT reflections in the reviews are largely lost on me. They are pretty good I think e.g. the map chamber.

I am about 40hrs in and having a great time. LOLZ at the old comment here about enemies standing around waiting to get zapped. I get in fights where you dodge roll incessantly to keep from getting merked because 6-10 enemies are attacking you in unison. Spiders, goblins, dark wizards, dark mongrels, and trolls all mob you. The shield and stun are great when amped up, but I will still take damage from enemies too far away to get hit by the explosion from a perfect block and stun. I have been mostly weaving level III on legendary gear for lowering damage from dark wizards. Everything else is much more manageable without extra buffs for them.

Again, the game is stunning visually, with a great variety of environments. I'll take it over 2077 any day.

Only bugs I have seen are some of the kids pathfinding getting broken, where they are trying to run while stuck on top of a bench or something. And needing to exit to menu and reload because a dialogue with a companion never triggered so we could continue the quest.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I greatly enjoyed that playthrough. The girl in the library minI quiz game is there if you want more of the lore. I need to weave different gear to see how well it does with different enemies.