Hillary the Neocon. How is the Left going to package and sell her?

[Texashiker]

The same was also true of McCain and the left.

Mccain is too far out there for the right. There is no chance in hell he is going to get elected.

He has proven himself to be a warmonger. The people are tired of conflict.

 

[dank69]

I don't need to reply since you presume to know my mind.

I do? :hmm:

 

[squarecut1]

He has proven himself to be a warmonger. The people are tired of conflict.

The people don't matter. We are bombing Iraq once again as we speak, something we have been doing since 1990. Is America or the world better off because of it? No. Are we making more enemies? Yes.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I do? :hmm:

Well...

I was thinking of the largest accomplishment in recent years, Obamacare.

A hypothetical, and not . just for you. If the Republican were against that and war but the Democrat for both, who would you choose? The same question can be asked of both sides Of course.

 

[dank69]

Well...

I was thinking of the largest accomplishment in recent years, Obamacare.

A hypothetical, and not . just for you. If the Republican were against that and war but the Democrat for both, who would you choose? The same question can be asked of both sides Of course.

Obamacare has already been passed. I figured you were referencing the future.

 

[nehalem256]

Hillary has other issues as well:

Hillary Clinton didn't refrain from supporting same-sex marriage for political reasons—before last year, she earnestly believed that marriage equality should be denied to gays and lesbians. That's the story the 66-year-old Democrat settled on when NPR host Terry Gross pressed her on her views.

...
Most famously, the Silicon Valley left forced the ouster of Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich for a 2008 donation he made to an anti-gay-marriage ballot initiative. That same year, Clinton ran for president while openly opposing gay marriage. If she is to be believed, she also opposed gay marriage as recently as 2013, long after a majority of Americans already held a more gay-friendly position. Would the subset of Democrats who thought 2008 opposition to gay marriage should prevent a man from becoming CEO in 2013 really support the 2015 presidential campaign of a woman who openly opposed gay marriage until last year?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/hillary-clintons-gay-marriage-problem/372717/

 

[squarecut1]

That's not a Hillary issue as such. That is a typical politician thing. They don't "believe" in anything. Most of them

 

[hal2kilo]

I won't be voting for her.. Well, in the primary.

For sure. If I can hold my stomach long enough, It will only be because the alternative is still scarrier.

 

[irishScott]

I'm less interested in Hillary than in whom the Republicans will run against her.

Christie? Already implicated in scandal.
Romney? He's a proven loser, although he might have a better shot against Hillary (who lacks Obama's charisma).
Jeb Bush? His last name alone will give Hillary a massive handicap whether it should or not.

Who else is there? Maybe some magical moderate Republican will make it through and dominate Hillary... when pigs fly. Maybe the Tea Party can nominate Rick fucking Perry, Hillary can win in a landslide, and we can finally shut down those idiots with their Gadsen flags and 3 pointed hats.

Honestly I'm even less optimistic about 2016 than I was about 2012. Hillary is almost certainly the Democrat's choice, which immediately pushes me right, only to find out that the Republicans have no one and are fighting a civil war with the Tea Party. Hate to say it, but barring some awesome Republican dark horse we're probably going to have 4 years of Aristocratic Sandy Vagina in chief.

 

[Texashiker]

I'm less interested in Hillary than in whom the Republicans will run against her.

Jon Huntsman Jr.

He has the foreign policy experience.

 

[irishScott]

Jon Huntsman Jr.

He has the foreign policy experience.

And he got laughed out of the primaries last time. Don't get me wrong I liked Hunstman, I'd vote him over Hillary in a heartbeat, but so long as the Tea Party and even mainstream but radical Conservatives dominate the primaries he has no chance.

 

[squarecut1]

Jeb Bush it will be. Like I mentioned, there was this great piece on Daily Show recently blasting the dynastic politics.

 

[unokitty]

Democrats trading their leading female candidate in for a younger model?

 

[hal2kilo]

Democrats trading their leading female candidate in for a younger model?

One can only hope.

 

[Jhhnn]

Democrats trading their leading female candidate in for a younger model?

So you voted for the Sarah! too, I take it. So Hot!

Shallow in every way, apparently.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Democrats trading their leading female candidate in for a younger model?

For the record, Warren is 65, Clinton is 66.

 

[MongGrel]

Bill Clinton for the first First Husband

:biggrin:

:whiste:

:sneaky:

 

[unokitty]

For the record, Warren is 65, Clinton is 66.

You are, of course, correct. And intellectually, I can accept that.

Its just when I see their photos next too each other, to me Hillary appears so much older ....

Anyway, thanks for setting record straight...

Uno

 

[squarecut1]

For the record, Warren is 65, Clinton is 66.

Hillary has aged a lot in recent years. Looks 86

 

[Thebobo]

You are, of course, correct. And intellectually, I can accept that.

Its just when I see their photos next too each other, to me Hillary appears so much older ....

Anyway, thanks for setting record straight...

Uno

Even the dog looks old.

 

[Thebobo]

I would like to see Howard Dean run again.

 

[trenchfoot]

Even the dog looks old.

Not only that.....it looks like it's in the early stages of positioning itself to make a couple of sand crusted patty cakes for the Clinton's to admire and further discuss the current state of the Union over.

 

[Texashiker]

Hillary needs to retire with Bill and spend time with her family.

 

[brycejones]

You wonder what drives such people. Hillary has had so much fame and power and influence. She and Bill make millions off the speaking circuit. She is not a spring chicken either and perhaps not in the best of health as well

Most people in her place would take it easy. Spend time with their kid(s) and grandkid(s). Yet she is willing to put herself through the gruesome demands and schedule of a presidential election. There has to be this immense greed for power within such people. Definitely not normal human beings.

Are you really so naive to believe that the quest for power doesn't drive just about anyone who runs for office?!? Not sure why you are singling out the Clintons here.

 

[hal2kilo]

I would like to see Howard Dean run again.

Would love to see him put his hat in the ring. God, I sure hope he doesn't commit the sin of being over exhuburent in exclaiming his victories again. I mean that's a definate gauge of how someone is going to perform in office.