Hillary the Neocon. How is the Left going to package and sell her?

[Hayabusa Rider]

Analysis of the debates shows that they have almost zero effect on the outcome.

Hillary isn't the person I would choose, but until the republicans start running sane candidates again there's simply no question that I would vote for her over them.

I'll probably not pick any of them since it's pretty much a farce, but much depends on who runs. If one should be less gung-ho on the use of military force that would weigh heavily in his or her favor.

 

[sportage]

Old folks, yes both republicans and democrats, love the Clinton's. I don't know why, but they just do. If Hillary runs she will be elected. Elected for the following reason(s).

The republican challenger is destine to be a joke.
I.e. Jeb, Paul, that fat guy from NJ, some weird guy from Texas and his new eye glasses, Mitten's part 2, or most likely some extreme far right religious nutcase wanting to send gays to concentration camps and impose the death penalty for any and all woman evening considering abortion.

Is Hillary a good candidate?
She's good enough.

She will win because once again America will make history.
And everyone loves to say they were a part of making that history.
The very first black president, followed by the very first woman president?
Are you kidding me?
Do you not think EVERYONE will want to jump on THAT band wagon????

All attempts to attack Hillary will be turned around as gender bashing.
Older folks, those devoted Clinton lovers, will believe Bill will be the one actually pulling the strings from the whitehouse.
Old folks that remember and love Bill wont look at it as electing Hillary, but re-electing Bill.

She, Hillary, will win because #1 she is a woman making American history.
And #2, she is a Clinton and that resume alone is plenty good enough for most people.
After all, things were pretty damn good for the average American during Bill Clinton's two terms.
This is a damn strong resume to run on.
And while people do fear the unknown, especially with electing any new untested president, the Clinton's are pretty much tested and people know what to expect.
And that alone will be good enough for most people.

If I were Hillary, I would wait until the very last minute to announce.
She can afford to wait.
People don't need to be re-introduced to Hillary. She is a Clinton.
People already know the Clinton's.

Hillary could come in at the last minute and sweep the crowd off their feet.
Possibly during the Democratic convention?
Bypass a long campaign full of personal attacks from the opponent.
Bypass her opponents desire to replay and rehash the Clinton past with attempts to do her harm.
Just don't give them that chance.
Come in late, unexpected, let the cheers and media hoopla drown out everything negative coming the other side.
Waltz in like she owns the place (which she piratically does), and there you are. President elect Hillary Clinton.

It is really pretty easy to do.
And considering the history making we owe women in America with finally electing the first woman as US president, as well as that feeling of tremendous excitement to be able to say you were a part of that history.
This is a no brainier.

If anyone doubts the power in this, just sit back and say to yourself, "the very first woman elected as US president in American history".
Very powerful words.
Very powerful aspiration.
And I guarantee you, no republican challenger, not a single one, will have a chance in hell when up against that.

The media will, at some point, jump on that band wagon as well.
Drowning out even their own pessimism by questioning whether Hillary is the one.
The only sound you will hear from the media will be "can we make history?".
Woman everywhere will love it.
Democrats will love it.
Republicans, many more than you might expect, will love it.
Independents will love it.
And every couch potato, when it comes to politics, will become more than excited to take part in electing the very first woman president.

Why?

Because the people are ready.

So again I ask...
Is Hillary a good candidate?
She is good enough!
.
.

 

[squarecut1]

After reading the above post from sportage, I think I need a Prozac pill

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Is Hillary a good candidate?
She is good enough!

Oh she'll be good enough for Dick Cheney and the Neocons, and with her in office you'll gladly become one too.

 

[trenchfoot]

Analysis of the debates shows that they have almost zero effect on the outcome.

Hillary isn't the person I would choose, but until the republicans start running sane candidates again there's simply no question that I would vote for her over them.

Precisely my sentiments.:thumbsup:

 

[boomerang]

Hillary will say whatever public polling tells her the people want to hear her say. She'll veer in any direction that takes her. Her history shows her to have no morals, no scruples. It shows her willing to say or do anything to achieve a goal. Her past is a series of lies wrapping up deceptions. This is what passes for presidential material in our nation. That a person like Hillary Rodham Clinton could even be considered for the highest position in the land is a bellwether. The same useful idiots that voted for Obama will be clamoring for her and for basically the same reason. 'Our first woman President!' The rest of us will become misogynists instead of racists.

Good times.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

In before the Paulbots can say Paul/Paul 2016!!!

 

[Thebobo]

Where is Incorruptible?

 

[FerrelGeek]

This says it all...

 

[justoh]

her religious beliefs seem sincere, and is therefore not qualified. stupid ho.

 

[Genx87]

Does it matter? Democrats and the left will line up to vote for her.

 

[Newell Steamer]

There's your answer, OP. Anyone who doesn't like Hillary is a sexist.

Talk of packaging and selling politicians is pretty common, but just because a politician has a vagina it is somehow a sexist phrase?

It is whatever you want it to be; and, that is what I am hoping for.

 

[FerrelGeek]

It is whatever you want it to be; and, that is what I am hoping for.

You're hoping to call anyone that doesn't vote for Hillary (or Elizabeth W) sexist? Sorry, not caffeinated enough yet, but I hope you're not really gonna just replace the race card with the sexist card.

 

[Newell Steamer]

You're hoping to call anyone that doesn't vote for Hillary (or Elizabeth W) sexist? Sorry, not caffeinated enough yet, but I hope you're not really gonna just replace the race card with the sexist card.

I am looking for the entertainment and sensationalism that will come out of dismissing Hillary - be it that she is a woman, a former President's wife,... and yes,.. even a grandmother; http://jezebel.com/people-are-seriously-asking-if-hillary-can-be-president-1564634666

Hillary in the White House, will be like Obama in the White House - Part 2.

Every little thing that is irrelevant will become a world shattering, call for impeachment, sensation.

 

[brycejones]

If the GOP puts up the same crazy slate of candidates for 2016 they did in 2012 there won't have to be much packaging by the democrats.

 

[Jaskalas]

Before you go crying about scary Republicans, remember that Hillary was defeated in the primary last time.

Her own party rejected her once, it can do so again.

 

[dank69]

The package is "not GOP."

 

[Texashiker]

Hillary the Neocon. How is the Left going to package and sell her?

After Hillary was elected to the senate she had some big dreams for health care reform. She caved to big business.

Benghazi and her "What difference does it make now" comment. She defended obama right and left, just as she was told to do. Now she wants to criticize him?

Hillary has always given me the impression of being an ass kisser. She does what she is told.

As a lawyer, her ethics are always for sell to the highest bidder.

At no point of her political career has hillary displayed leadership skills. She has shown skills on how to avoid responsibility, be a sell out and downplay events. But when it comes to leadership skills, she is lacking.

To the left hillarys sell outs and back stabbing do not matter. All that matters, it is time we had a woman president.

The neocons do not have to package hillary. All they have to do is tell young women it is time we had a woman president. The votes cast for hillary wil not be for hillary per say, but to set an example for women. A woman president will be seen as a great step for womens rights.

The votes cast for hillary will not be for hillary or the democrats. The votes will be cast in the name of equality.

 

[brycejones]

Before you go crying about scary Republicans, remember that Hillary was defeated in the primary last time.

Her own party rejected her once, it can do so again.

Very true its why there are elections. Heck she may not even run.

 

[Anarchist420]

i am afraid of hillary clinton and what i think she would do to people. the thing that was good about obama is that he isnt serious at all. but hillary clinton is not only authoritarian socially, economically, and in terms of foreign policy, she is personally authoritarian too so there is reason to worry about what she might do to people.

hillary clinton is a lot like richard nixon but she will be a lot worse given that the executive now has even more tools to work with to oppress, humiliate, and even torture people. she's probably going to be the 2nd coming of woodrow wilson, except only more dangerous and actually successful in bringing the country to its knees. in other words, while woodrow wilson's world govt plans temporarily failed thanks to warren harding, hillary clinton will successfully end the legislature and the judiciary because there wont be any warren harding to save the people the second time.

 

[squarecut1]

Hillary isn't the person I would choose,

Thing is, you don't get to choose. The establishment does it.

You (as in the generic sense) have no voice. Your views don't matter. Your principles don't matter. You just line up to vote whatever the establishment puts up, in fear of The Right.

 

[nehalem256]

Simple

Hillary Clinton (R) D:
Hillary Clinton (D) :thumbsup:

^_^

 

[fskimospy]

Thing is, you don't get to choose. The establishment does it.

You (as in the generic sense) have no voice. Your views don't matter. Your principles don't matter. You just line up to vote whatever the establishment puts up, in fear of The Right.

Of course, it's a two party system. The finding fathers weren't too bright when it came to developing a system of elections.

As for who I vote for, it especially doesn't matter. I live in NYC so democrats win almost every election anyway, certainly for federal offices. I've voted for republicans in the past, but it is highly unlikely that their presidential candidate will have sane views on taxation, climate change, health policy, etc. I hope someday they come back from the woods.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Of course, it's a two party system. The finding fathers weren't too bright when it came to developing a system of elections.

As for who I vote for, it especially doesn't matter. I live in NYC so democrats win almost every election anyway, certainly for federal offices. I've voted for republicans in the past, but it is highly unlikely that their presidential candidate will have sane views on taxation, climate change, health policy, etc. I hope someday they come back from the woods.

It would be an interesting race if a Republican who was reluctant to engage in war but didn't support the domestic Democratic agenda ran against a Neoconservative minded Democrat who otherwise did.

 

[fskimospy]

It would be an interesting race if a Republican who was reluctant to engage in war but didn't support the domestic Democratic agenda ran against a Neoconservative minded Democrat who otherwise did.

For me it would still be an easy choice as I care more about domestic politics than foreign policy. If you switched your party labels there I would vote for the republican.