Hillary makes it official

[Vic]

Yep. Righties suffer terribly from motivated reasoning to fulfill emotional needs. If there's something they want to believe, there are plenty of right wing sources who'll serve it up on a spoon. It's the thought processes of religion transferred to politics.

Both sides are guilty of this IMO, but the right does seem to have the more vocal propaganda machine at this time.

 

[Vic]

Keep on keeping it classy.

 

[Jhhnn]

Both sides are guilty of this IMO, but the right does seem to have the more vocal propaganda machine at this time.

I remember the right wing being more vocal for... maybe 40 years, give or take.

And there's the whole wishy-washy Liberal thing- you know, where they want to think about it before they believe it.

Not to mention right wing love for conspiracy theories, from Birtherism to Benghazi & beyond.

It's hard for me to explain, but Righties apply the elements of Faith based thinking to politics. They believe strongly in things they don't understand. It's a way of dealing with the world reinforced by religious teaching of all kinds. They learned how to think that way as children. It felt good, and it still does.

Please don't take this as critical of religious Faith at all. I have little myself, but I've seen it do powerful things in people's lives, good & bad. It's a whole different way of thinking involving leaps of Faith & imagination that's obviously exploitable by those who know how. It's a blind spot, a vulnerability Righties don't see in themselves.

 

[michal1980]

Keep on keeping it classy.

I don't see you criticizing your lefty buddies for posting things far worse in this thread.


Keeping on with the double standards.

 

[Moonbeam]

I don't see you criticizing your lefty buddies for posting things far worse in this thread.


Keeping on with the double standards.

You don't see period. And you have no internal shame, or rather so much shame that you can't allow yourself to feel even a tiny bit of it. And because you have no shame, you are massively arrogant which causes you to act in ways that appear to others to be profoundly stupid. You actually are arrogant enough to believe in the horse shit that was pumped into you all your life.

Do not trust you opinions on anything. You are a total fool. Do not listen to any thoughts your brain generates. It is defective. Meditate until the silence of love washes your soul clean. There is only love and you have always been perfect. Everything about good and evil you were taught is a lie. You are inside out and up side down. Practice absolute silence. Force your ego to weaken so grace can cause it to die.

 

[boomerang]

Everyone can pre-order their copy of 'Clinton Cash' which is due out on May 5th at Amazon.

Schweizer reveals the Clinton’s troubling dealings in Kazakhstan, Colombia, Haiti, and other places at the “wild west” fringe of the global economy. In this blockbuster exposé, Schweizer merely presents the troubling facts he’s uncovered. Meticulously researched and scrupulously sourced, filled with headline-making revelations, Clinton Cash raises serious questions of judgment, of possible indebtedness to an array of foreign interests, and ultimately, of fitness for high public office.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Everyone can pre-order their copy of 'Clinton Cash' which is due out on May 5th at Amazon.

Nah, you want the *real stuff*, the full story.

Now back in the 90's there were a middle aged couple named Bill and Hillary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zllx0hktQSk

 

[UberNeuman]

Nah, you want the *real stuff*, the full story.

Now back in the 90's there were a middle aged couple named Bill and Hillary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zllx0hktQSk

Many Vince Fosters died to bring us this information.

\long live the derp star.....

 

[Victorian Gray]

Many Vince Fosters died to bring us this information.

\long live the derp star.....

 

[soundforbjt]

Everyone can pre-order their copy of 'Clinton Cash' which is due out on May 5th at Amazon.

Written by the editor @ Breitbart ! Yep that'll be a "non-biased" book...

 

[nickqt]

Written by the editor @ Breitbart ! Yep that'll be a "non-biased" book...

Don't forget to buy gold coins! Hyperinflation is right around the corner, or something, I'm sure of it!!!

 

[UberNeuman]

lol. Give me a script and we'll hit kickstarter for a flick of Kill Vin..

\deres money to be made...
\\BUY GOLD!!!!

 

[trenchfoot]

This election cycle has hardly left the starting gate and already it's so much fun. Too bad the Repubs still can't manage to find a presidential candidate that can stand toe to toe with Hillary.

With the containers full of libelous baggage that Hillary has in tow behind her, you'd think it would be soooo easy to find ANY sock puppet of a candidate to challenge her with some semblance of worth.

 

[boomerang]

Written by the editor @ Breitbart ! Yep that'll be a "non-biased" book...

You should research the author. Your congress critters can no longer benefit from stock trading based on pending legislation due to his efforts.

 

[soundforbjt]

This election cycle has hardly left the starting gate and already it's so much fun. Too bad the Repubs still can't manage to find a presidential candidate that can stand toe to toe with Hillary.

With the containers full of libelous baggage that Hillary has in tow behind her, you'd think it would be soooo easy to find ANY sock puppet of a candidate to challenge her with some semblance of worth.

None of them have any different ideas at all, they are all variations of the same candidate. They have to talk about Clinton because they have nothing to talk about that voters don't already know about the Republican agenda.
If they talk about their true agenda/beliefs, they'll lose.

 

[soundforbjt]

You should research the author. Your congress critters can no longer benefit from stock trading based on pending legislation due to his efforts.

ok...

The author, Peter Schweitzer, is a long time Republican political operative whose credibility rests on books such as “Architects of Ruin: How Big Government Liberals Ruined the Global Economy and Will Do It Again if We Don’t Stop Them” and ”Makers and Takers:Why conservatives work harder, feel happier, have closer families, take fewer drugs, give more generously, value honesty more, are less materialistic and envious, whine less … and even hug their children more than liberals.” That latter literary masterpiece was actually a sequel to his earlier work called ”Do as I Say (Not as I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy.” Let’s just say there’s no mistaking Schweitzer for an unbiased journalist.

 

[trenchfoot]

None of them have any different ideas at all, they are all variations of the same candidate. They have to talk about Clinton because they have nothing to talk about that voters don't already know about the Republican agenda.
If they talk about their true agenda/beliefs, they'll lose.

Agreed. When all they have is an ideology of which Bush and Cheney had eight years to prove itself worthy yet only yielded disastrous results, then there's not much good to be said about it, is there?

 

[cabri]

Agreed. When all they have is an ideology of which Bush and Cheney had eight years to prove itself worthy yet only yielded disastrous results, then there's not much good to be said about it, is there?

And if Clinton will continue Obama's policies; where does that leave the country?

Stock market is up; but the jobs are not there

His foreign policies at this point have not produced fruit.

The ACA is not really reigning in health costs.

He has expanded the government more into the lives of the public.

Transparency went out the window as well as respect for the constitution.

What are Clinton's plans to solve the issues and work with the Republicans?
Or do we have to accept her before we know what is in the package.

 

[Moonbeam]

And if Clinton will continue Obama's policies; where does that leave the country?

Stock market is up; but the jobs are not there

His foreign policies at this point have not produced fruit.

The ACA is not really reigning in health costs.

He has expanded the government more into the lives of the public.

Transparency went out the window as well as respect for the constitution.

What are Clinton's plans to solve the issues and work with the Republicans?
Or do we have to accept her before we know what is in the package.

You should use the words brain defectives instead of Republicans to describe the conservative congress of today. Republicans are long gone from the Republican party, having been replaces by psychotics. Until these scum are swept away by a more universal recognition by the public of their disease, no sane person should trouble themselves to compromise with them. You yourself are quite mad if you think today's Republicans want to solve issues and work constructively.

 

[trenchfoot]

And if Clinton will continue Obama's policies; where does that leave the country?

Stock market is up; but the jobs are not there

His foreign policies at this point have not produced fruit.

The ACA is not really reigning in health costs.

He has expanded the government more into the lives of the public.

Transparency went out the window as well as respect for the constitution.
What are Clinton's plans to solve the issues and work with the Republicans?
Or do we have to accept her before we know what is in the package.

Fair enough. Let's say we imagine that for some odd reason Obama's term in office ends tomorrow and we compare what the state of the union is upon his departure as compared with what Bush and Cheney left behind. And let's add to that what the state of the union was just before each admin. took office.

IMO, objectively comparing the two within the context I framed leaves no doubt what ideology is preferable in this particular instance.

 

[cabri]

Fair enough. Let's say we imagine that for some odd reason Obama's term in office ends tomorrow and we compare what the state of the union is upon his departure as compared with what Bush and Cheney left behind. And let's add to that what the state of the union was just before each admin. took office.

IMO, objectively comparing the two within the context I framed leaves no doubt what ideology is preferable in this particular instance.

Given what Bush received from Clinton in terms of the economy and the world situation; you are trying to compare apples and oranges.

Clinton fed Bush recession and Bush fed Obama one.
Clinton set Bush up for the terror strikes; Obama inherited the existing situation from Bush.

One can always try to find the light in the tunnel; pretending that it is not a train or actually is the end of the tunnel.

Obama has been a caretaker; not a leader.
He has allowed a great distrust in the actions/sincerity/honesty of the government to be expanded on.

My question is; what are Clinton's intentions?
She has not stated anything of substance as of yet as still conveys the superior attitude in that the laws need not apply to her in spirit.

 

[fskimospy]

And if Clinton will continue Obama's policies; where does that leave the country?

Stock market is up; but the jobs are not there

Under Obama so far we've added about 6.4 million new jobs. If you discount the first couple of months of Obama's presidency, which I think is reasonable as his policies clearly couldn't be responsible for job losses before he's been in office a month, Obama has generated somewhere around 8 million new jobs. If that trend continues out through the end of this second term (admittedly a big if!), his second term will potentially create more new jobs than any in history. Even when you adjust for different populations, his second term will look pretty damn good.

How does that square with 'jobs not being there'?

His foreign policies at this point have not produced fruit.

That's a pretty nebulous statement.

The ACA is not really reigning in health costs.

There's no way to know what the ACA is doing in terms of health costs as the sample sizes are too small. What we do know though is that we have experienced historically slow health care inflation since it has been passed and millions of new people have gotten health coverage. That seems pretty positive to me, no?

He has expanded the government more into the lives of the public.

I agree!

Transparency went out the window as well as respect for the constitution.

Bullshit.

What are Clinton's plans to solve the issues and work with the Republicans?
Or do we have to accept her before we know what is in the package.

Do you ask this of other candidates? What issues are the plans of Republican candidates to work with Democrats? Considering the high degree of party polarization it is unlikely that either party will do much to work with the other.

 

[theeedude]

This country can't afford supply side policies that have failed everywhere they've been tried. So I will be voting for Hillary if she's the nominee
In primaries, we'll see. I want to see my choices first.

 

[dank69]

And if Clinton will continue Obama's policies; where does that leave the country?

Stock market is up; but the jobs are not there

His foreign policies at this point have not produced fruit.

The ACA is not really reigning in health costs.

He has expanded the government more into the lives of the public.

Transparency went out the window as well as respect for the constitution.

What are Clinton's plans to solve the issues and work with the Republicans?
Or do we have to accept her before we know what is in the package.

Exactly what fruit were you hoping for?

 

[ivwshane]

Fair enough. Let's say we imagine that for some odd reason Obama's term in office ends tomorrow and we compare what the state of the union is upon his departure as compared with what Bush and Cheney left behind. And let's add to that what the state of the union was just before each admin. took office.

IMO, objectively comparing the two within the context I framed leaves no doubt what ideology is preferable in this particular instance.

Unfortunately when you tell posters like the one you are responding to, "fair enough", you give them a false feeling of being correct. What that poster just posted was total bullshit. Literally everything he stated was false.

Stupid idiots like that poster need to be called out and shamed back into the hole from which they crawled out of.