Hillary faints @ ground zero?

[Pens1566]

So many go through their daily lives with "I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony" going through their heads. You know, from the Coca-cola ads? They want our nation to support the peoples of the world except militarily of course. And speaking of Coke, Hillary sure was amped up after her incident. Not sure if she drinks it or not.

Anyway, to get off on a tangent, why is Metrocare Home Services, Inc. being run out of Chelsea's apartment? They did get a few glowing reviews on Yelp.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/metrocare-home-services-new-york

I hope it's not one of those Medicare mills.

Yep, that looks legit.

 

[theeedude]

So many go through their daily lives with "I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony" going through their heads. You know, from the Coca-cola ads? They want our nation to support the peoples of the world except militarily of course. And speaking of Coke, Hillary sure was amped up after her incident. Not sure if she drinks it or not.

Anyway, to get off on a tangent, why is Metrocare Home Services, Inc. being run out of Chelsea's apartment? They did get a few glowing reviews on Yelp.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/metrocare-home-services-new-york

I hope it's not one of those Medicare mills.

This is the intellectual level of today's Conservative movement.

 

[PokerGuy]

Another interesting aspect to the collapse/seizure/whatever video is that none of the handlers around her seem at all concerned or alarmed. I understand these are folks trained to handle security and threats etc in a cool efficient manner, but it definitely looks like this is not their first time seeing similar "issues" with her.

 

[Pens1566]

Another interesting aspect to the collapse/seizure/whatever video is that none of the handlers around her seem at all concerned or alarmed. I understand these are folks trained to handle security and threats etc in a cool efficient manner, but it definitely looks like this is not their first time seeing similar "issues" with her.

Or maybe they were aware of her pneumonia, that the dr ordered 5 days off, and that she had decided to power through. Or, she has ebo-zika and is patient zero for dawn of the dead. I know which one is more likely.

 

[boomerang]

This is the intellectual level of today's Conservative movement.

Try to lighten up a bit and have a little fun. Or, keep confirming to yourself that you are one smart SOB. Doesn't matter to me but I get it, somebody's got to stroke your ego and who knows how better than you. :thumbsup:

 

[Strk]

Another interesting aspect to the collapse/seizure/whatever video is that none of the handlers around her seem at all concerned or alarmed. I understand these are folks trained to handle security and threats etc in a cool efficient manner, but it definitely looks like this is not their first time seeing similar "issues" with her.

I wouldn't want someone protect me who couldn't keep their cool. The same as I wouldn't want a healthcare person say "omgwtf" when they're treating me.

 

[Thump553]

68 is not old if you take decent care of yourself and don't get all fat. I'm 63 and am basically the same shape I was in two decades ago. There are some differences-a lot less hair and it's all gray now, and I injure easier and they take longer to heal.

BTW I heard one of the commentators mention yesterday that if elected Trump would be the OLDEST ever President on entering office, even older than St. Ronald was. And based upon appearances Trump looks to be in a whole lot worse shape than Reagan was back then-or Hillary now for that matter.

I also believe her version as to what happened as a very similar thing happened to me a few years ago. Only time ever in my life I (almost) fainted. I also understand her penchant for personal privacy, especially medical matters and my life has been nothing like the 24/7 examination by critical actors for decades that she has endured. I find it supremely ironic that the male candidate this time around is so prissy and thin skinned and she is so damn stoic a major criticism of her is she never shows emotion.

 

[PokerGuy]

Or maybe they were aware of her pneumonia, that the dr ordered 5 days off, and that she had decided to power through. Or, she has ebo-zika and is patient zero for dawn of the dead. I know which one is more likely.

Even if some of them were aware of her supposed pneumonia, it's highly unlikely that there would be pretty much no alarm or even surprise at her collapse unless they've seen other similar issues in the past.

 

[Jhhnn]

First let me point out how fucking stupid you sound right now. I said white male, and you assumed I was a white straight male. When did I bring up sexual orientation? I did not, but you are so used to throwing that in that you did it not even realizing. Tool.

Also, while white males statistically do not have it as bad as others, there are some issues that they do have that others do not. Suicide sadly is one. Homeless is another.

So dummy, yes there are some disadvantages.

Heh. Found a little something to deflect upon, the "straight' part?

Boo-hoo.

Homelessness?-

When talking about homelessness, race is often the elephant in the room. But no matter how much we avoid it, the blunt reality is that black Americans are greatly overrepresented in homeless shelters across the United States. In 2010, one out of every 141 black family members sought refuge in a homeless shelter, a rate seven times higher than members of white families.

http://citylimits.org/2012/03/05/homelessness-its-about-race-not-just-poverty/

Suicide? People do that when they can't resolve inner conflicts & inconsistencies. The way Trumpists leap for compartmentalization & denial it's a wonder more don't off themselves.

 

[PokerGuy]

I wouldn't want someone protect me who couldn't keep their cool. The same as I wouldn't want a healthcare person say "omgwtf" when they're treating me.

Agreed, I expect the secret service folks to be cool under pressure and react professionally. What I find surprising is that they are not in the least bit surprised or alarmed. At all.

 

[agent00f]

No, it's a side effect of having to fill in the blanks when you know there is something wrong, you begin to make assumptions and most of them are more conservative than what might actually be reality. It is a natural human trait.

There hasn't been one person that has said she should have been dead weeks ago. But what we do know is that she is sick. From what, we do not know.

Why was Nick Merrill standing right behind her when she had her "episode" and he acted like it was completely normal? Because it *IS* completely normal for them to see her totally incapacitated.

It's the same kind of "fill in the blanks when you know there is something wrong" feces throwing game that leads to fema camps & kenyan muslim communist, which you might be aware has a pretty shitty track record. She supposedly has about 100 conditions or diseases right now, and I'm sure at least some are bound to stick on someone who's 70 years old.

Also consider what it says about the conservative movement when their claim to the throne is based on the last man standing principle.

 

[PokerGuy]

Suicide? People do that when they can't resolve inner conflicts & inconsistencies. The way Trumpists leap for compartmentalization & denial it's a wonder more don't off themselves.

Your stupidity and bigotry are on full display again. Calling you a moron is a grave insult to all morons.

 

[Pens1566]

Even if some of them were aware of her supposed pneumonia, it's highly unlikely that there would be pretty much no alarm or even surprise at her collapse unless they've seen other similar issues in the past.

Or, she stated something along the lines of "i'm dizzy/faint/light headed, i think it's time to go". A more plausible explanation than "oh, she's dying again tom. Yep, day that ends in Y Fred."

Of course, if you really believe your version, you also have to accept that they're aware of whatever "condition" she has (so much so that they're not surprised by it's manifestations) and that their collective lack of concern is based on it being NOTHING MAJOR AT ALL. Or, they just all hate her and want her to finally die (again).

 

[LegendKiller]

It's the same kind of "fill in the blanks when you know there is something wrong" feces throwing game that leads to fema camps & kenyan muslim communist, which you might be aware has a pretty shitty track record. She supposedly has about 100 conditions or diseases right now, and I'm sure at least some are bound to stick on someone who's 70 years old.

Also consider what it says about the conservative movement when their claim to the throne is based on the last man standing principle.

No, it is a natural effect of having a lack of data. People consider probability and severity given their own risk tolerance in certain situations. It is nothing more than the Lemon Dilemma with informational asymmetry. Without better info your natural inclination is to discount and default to a more conservative position.

If you have imperfect data and you know it, it isn't racist to be more conservative, it is prudence. Some have higher risk tolerance than others. Some are willing to discount less than others.

It also depends on how much is available.

We know she lies. We know the video was horrible. We know the story has "evolved". Since it has evolved and she lies we cannot know how bad it actually is. Given the obvious motivation to hide the worst case sceanio, you must default to somewhere closer to that, objectively speaking.

The problem is people like you would rather short circuit that decision process and play identity politics. Anybody who questions probability, severity, or veracity, is a bigot, or misogynistic, because you cannot question a woman, or a Muslim, and you cannot certainly judge them.

You couch this in a faux intellectualism and attempt to marginalized by calling anybody who disagrees a "deplorable" all the while being what you hate, an ignorant bigot.

And this is why you are becoming more desperate in your attacks, because in your wanton desire to control the outcome at all costs you fall into a grand moff tarkin problem. The more you try to control the more people slip through your fingers. The more wood you try to carry the more likely you are to drop it. Whatever scenario you want to use.

You are failing and in your last gasp to control you are alienating everybody but your most die hard followers. And this is why you will fail. Just like brexit.

 

[realibrad]

It's certainly true that the bulk of the left doesn't believe that "white males" need protection. What, precisely, do you think they need protection from? You mention a higher suicide rate, above, for example. But what is to be done about high suicide rates among white males from a political perspective? The only thing I can think of is keeping guns out of their hands but that is not exactly what the political right wants to hear.

I think you're drawing a false equivalency here. To disprove that, tell us what needs to be done from a public policy standpoint to protect white males.

If your argument is that a bad statistical outcome does not require action then I would agree. The argument being made about other groups is that they need help because of the outcomes they often find themselves in. If a black person is poor, its not because of their choices, its the system they operate in. If a minority of any group falls into something that is not as good, they need help.

Often its political methods to correct a problem for minorities. So in that sense it is not the same, but, if the logic is that a group is having negative outcomes then why would it not trigger focus?

A solution would be mental health outreach and not just gun regulation. No doubt that suicide is made much easier by guns, but there are many other options. Taking away the tool does not stop the desire.

If you believe gun regulation would reduce the problem, then why would you need another policy suggestion to disprove the false equivalency? You already gave a policy option did you not?

 

[agent00f]

No, it is a natural effect of having a lack of data. People consider probability and severity given their own risk tolerance in certain situations. It is nothing more than the Lemon Dilemma with informational asymmetry. Without better info your natural inclination is to discount and default to a more conservative position.

If you have imperfect data and you know it, it isn't racist to be more conservative, it is prudence. Some have higher risk tolerance than others. Some are willing to discount less than others.

It also depends on how much is available.

We know she lies. We know the video was horrible. We know the story has "evolved". Since it has evolved and she lies we cannot know how bad it actually is. Given the obvious motivation to hide the worst case sceanio, you must default to somewhere closer to that, objectively speaking.

The problem is people like you would rather short circuit that decision process and play identity politics. Anybody who questions probability, severity, or veracity, is a bigot, or misogynistic, because you cannot question a woman, or a Muslim, and you cannot certainly judge them.

You couch this in a faux intellectualism and attempt to marginalized by calling anybody who disagrees a "deplorable" all the while being what you hate, an ignorant bigot.

So your argument is that hillary might kick the bucket so trump is the safer choice? Good thing the founders were a bit smarter than you give them credit for and already thought of the case.

Consider if it's possibly if you're just reiterating whatever conservatives gotta tell themselves now to rationalize someone like trump. He might be a clusterclown but at least he's not going to be dead soon.

 

[spacejamz]

surprised that no one has brought up a possible 'double' for her yet...there was blurb on CNN earlier today but I can't seem to find it anymore...

it mentioned differences in cheek bones and smoother skin...this one really shouldn't be too hard to prove/disapprove with the quality of cameras/lenses out there...

 

[Jhhnn]

Your stupidity and bigotry are on full display again. Calling you a moron is a grave insult to all morons.

Hit a nerve, huh? People kill themselves because they can't take it any more. Why can't they take it while the vast majority of us can? Because of what they believe in. The sour negativity & shitty tear it all down attitudes on the right fringe invite that kind of hopelessness.

 

[LegendKiller]

So your argument is that hillary might kick the bucket so trump is the safer choice? Good thing the founders were a bit smarter than you give them credit for and already thought of the case.

Consider if it's possibly if you're just reiterating whatever conservatives gotta tell themselves now to rationalize someone like trump. He might be a clusterclown but at least he's not going to be dead soon.

I have taken several jobs in my life. A few didn't turn out but ultimately I turned them into opportunities. Friends wondered why I took such risks, most often advising me not to. I got progressively better jobs and have done well while they stick to one job and do well for them.

Some prefer to stagnate, it is comfortable, and that's fine. I don't think poorly of them for it, it's their life. Others prefer to see or make change happen.

You prefer to a stagnate. The lies, the continual hyper interventionism, hyper globalism...etc. driving our ship into an iceberg for the last 30 is years. It's fine for you. It's worked out and you are quite happy with it and you deride thosr who aren't as "know nothings", but in reality, you don't even attempt to know what they feel, or see, or think on a daily basis. You think you're above that and they have no say in this process. Who is the know nothing?

I prefer somebody who will shake it up a bit.

an invalid puppet won't shake things up.

 

[MongGrel]

I have taken several jobs in my life. A few didn't turn out but ultimately I turned them into opportunities. Friends wondered why I took such risks, most often advising me not to. I got progressively better jobs and have done well while they stick to one job and do well for them.

Some prefer to stagnate, it is comfortable, and that's fine. I don't think poorly of them for it, it's their life. Others prefer to see or make change happen.

You prefer to a stagnate. The lies, the continual hyper interventionism, hyper globalism...etc. driving our ship into an iceberg for the last 30 is years. It's fine for you. It's worked out and you are quite happy with it and you deride thosr who aren't as "know nothings", but in reality, you don't even attempt to know what they feel, or see, or think on a daily basis. You think you're above that and they have no say in this process. Who is the know nothing?

I prefer somebody who will shake it up a bit.

an invalid puppet won't shake things up.

That month really did fly by fast. You're back to ranting non stop in less than two hours.

Hillary was not going to bow out of a 9/11 event no matter what, long story short.

Trump isn't going to stir anything up, talk about driving shit into an iceburg.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...us-bureau-poverty-rate-down-median-incomes-up

 

[LegendKiller]

That month really did fly by fast. Back to ranting non stop in less than two hours.

Hillary was not going to bow out of a 9/11 event no matter what, long story short.

Just like she won't bow out of the race no matter how much worse it gets. That's why you guys are trying everything you can to duhflect.

Did jhnn ever answer whether he has ever seen a fat usss agent?

 

[MongGrel]

Just like she won't bow out of the race no matter how much worse it gets. That's why you guys are trying everything you can to duhflect.

Did jhnn ever answer whether he has ever seen a fat usss agent?

I did not deflect a damned thing.

Get your head out of your ass.

 

[realibrad]

Heh. Found a little something to deflect upon, the "straight' part?

Boo-hoo.

Hey shit for brains, its not deflection if I address your points. Don't use words you don't understand.

Homelessness?-

http://citylimits.org/2012/03/05/homelessness-its-about-race-not-just-poverty/

Suicide? People do that when they can't resolve inner conflicts & inconsistencies. The way Trumpists leap for compartmentalization & denial it's a wonder more don't off themselves.

First, its true that percapita Black males represent higher rates, but its also true that White males represent the largest group. Are you saying that because Black males represent a higher % adjusted for population it is not an issue for whites? Amazing.

Next, wtf are you talking about with Trumpists. That might be one of the most insensitive remarks about suicide I have seen. You are amazingly cold and callous about a very sad situation. Typical political person I supposed, but sad.

As for suicide, why is that not a symptom of culture and other things are for minorities? Why should we address things like low education and not something like suicide?

 

[agent00f]

I have taken several jobs in my life. A few didn't turn out but ultimately I turned them into opportunities. Friends wondered why I took such risks, most often advising me not to. I got progressively better jobs and have done well while they stick to one job and do well for them.

Some prefer to stagnate, it is comfortable, and that's fine. I don't think poorly of them for it, it's their life. Others prefer to see or make change happen.

You prefer to a stagnate. The lies, the continual hyper interventionism, hyper globalism...etc. driving our ship into an iceberg for the last 30 is years. It's fine for you. It's worked out and you are quite happy with it and you deride thosr who aren't as "know nothings", but in reality, you don't even attempt to know what they feel, or see, or think on a daily basis. You think you're above that and they have no say in this process. Who is the know nothing?

I prefer somebody who will shake it up a bit.

an invalid puppet won't shake things up.

Seems pretty easy to see that you're really motivated to rationalize a rather terrible choice in trump, which results in the quite obtuse rant about risk, information, fake intellectualism (rather self-reflective, congrats), and maybe the illuminati. It's not hard to observe that the conservatives are throwing every condition they can find on webmd at that wall, which only makes them look pretty desperate.

Also, I'm not sure what your corp ladder climbing has to do with anything. Especially when it completely contradicts your own argument not one post ago that taking a risk on clinton is bad.

 

[Jhhnn]

Just like she won't bow out of the race no matter how much worse it gets. That's why you guys are trying everything you can to duhflect.

Did jhnn ever answer whether he has ever seen a fat usss agent?

So why does the guy act like a Secret Service agent & what's that thing hanging out of his ear? Why do the other agents treat him like an agent?

Is it some conspiracy? Consult Alex Jones & get back to us, OK?