Hillary faints @ ground zero?

[VRAMdemon]

Lol...this thread is comedy gold...

Ok. So when do we get to diagnose 70 yr. old Trump with all his incoherent word salads, tics and facial spasms. And just what the hell is he hiding by painting his entire skull orange - except for the eyes which are pinker than Barbie's bedroom.

I mean, if we can extrapolate metal parts falling out of her, catatonia and epilepsy upon Clinton, I think we should at least be allowed to lay some early onset Alzheimer's (which his father had), lupus or perchance testicular elephantiasis or something on Donny boy (but I'm actually leaning toward extreme amphetamine abuse). I mean, it's obviously obvious if it's obvious for Clinton, no?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Boy are CBS bad at this cover up stuff. Apparently they were dumb enough that the clip in question was run in full during CBS This Morning, and on CBSNews.com and on CBSN.

 

[werepossum]

Clinton's side of the story in interview with Anderson Cooper:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/12/politics/hillary-clinton-health-transparency/index.html

Summary - Clinton says her seasonal allergies were unusually persistent. which presumably means she was coughing and sneezing for longer than usual. She "got off the road" and went to see a doctor Friday, who diagnosed her with pneumonia and recommended 5 days bed rest. She says she ignored the doctor's advice, thought she could "power through it." But it didn't work out too well. On Sunday she felt dizzy and stumbled, but did not lose consciousness. The weather was hot and humid. She felt better after getting into the air conditioned van.

Absolutely no one who has seen that video and watched her loaded into a van like a large, limp piece of meat with one shoe missing believes that she didn't lose consciousness. I'm not sure why she would even try to pass that off as the truth, except habit, given that passing out from pneumonia is hardly in and of itself remarkable or a setback to her campaign. It could even be spun as an example of how hardworking she is. (You know, working through pneumonia when normally they would have already put her down for her first nap.) It's rather disturbing that her staff and protection detail took this as normal, and that she travels with her own doctor, but hardly a major setback.

And for those who don't know, "squeeze my fingers" is a test of comprehension not only used for stroke or epilepsy.

Unfortunately, this is comforting to too many. The status quo represents a known. Yes, they are corrupt but they give us things and they are saying they will give us more things! It's a fucking sickness that cannot be perpetuated indefinitely but greed is now the norm. Greed, envy, all the seven deadly sins spelled out in Christianity have become aspirations fueled by the political class seeking power.

The pisser is that we have a man, yes a flawed man, that actually wants to change the system. Despite that system fighting back in every way it seemingly can, he has risen to the top of his party and he now faces a candidate that wants to not just continue the comfort of the status quo but make it larger. The shortsighted, the people that live for the moment think she's wonderful for all the wrong reasons. Reasons that they have been conditioned to believe are righteous and just.

Will we ever know to what degree he can achieve success against a system that will eventually fail without major intervention? Stay tuned. I fully suspect that the bread and circuses will be maintained and intensified over the next four years. The longer it perpetuates the harder the fall. It's been said that history is destined to repeat itself. It certainly appears so.

What in Trump's pre-campaign history would make you believe anything he says?

Even assuming we suspend belief, he gets visa hires and cheap foreign manufacturing labor for his own businesses. Dude's a billionaire; if he's not willing to accept lower profit for himself, then obviously his professed beliefs are extremely shallow compared to his self-interest.

Why you guys still talking about all this? Its already been reported by ABC Clinton passed away.....Onto the next topic.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Fixer_guy/status/775226672756854785

lol +1

Sadly, zombie Hillary is no worse a candidate than live Hillary - or Trump.

 

[werepossum]

There are no conspiracy theories here, just the honest truth that is finally coming out.

Hillary and her people are incapable of telling the truth. They have used every excuse to avoid hillarys health and they are running out of excuses.

It is doubtful hillary will be able to stand the full length of the debates. All the democrats need is for hillary to pass out in plain view of the public and it will be over.

The democrats are dragging a dead horse behind a truck claiming the horse is just tired. Hillary is done for.

Why would it be over? Die-hard Hillary supporters will happily vote for her decomposing corpse. Those who simply hate Trump are hardly going to balk at the prospect of having Tim Kaine instead. And for those who hate both Hillary and Trump but don't hate Kaine who seems pretty innocuous and perhaps even virtuous, the prospect of having Hillary not serve a full term can only sweeten the deal. Hell, if I was convinced that she'd serve less than a year, I might vote for the Hildabeast myself. I love Johnson, but a vote for him is not truly a vote against Trump.

As for Air Force One, the Secret Service managed with FDR; I seriously doubt they'll have a problem dragging her into the jet. In fact, kudos to the Secret Service for attempting to guard not only the candidate, but also her dignity.

 

[Jhhnn]

At 0:39 Bill rubs his left eye when he says it is a mystery to me and all her doctors.

That is body language that he is lying and he hopes people do not see what is going on.

Someone touching their left ear or left eye when they say something is probably lying.

Riiiight....

 

[Texashiker]

Riiiight....

Fine, dont take my word for it.

How about this?

http://www.today.com/health/he-lying-his-body-may-tell-truth-2D80555436

He may also touch the face near his eyes or even begin rubbing his eyes when speaking an untruth.

 

[Blue_Max]

Anyone see the footage of one of her coughing fits and they zoomed in on the glass of water they gave her... she spits out a GIANT wad of yellow-orange phlegm into the glass. That woman's battling a serious illness, which is fine in its own right. Just be honest about it!

I can't help but wonder if she knows she's going to die in the next year and has the dominoes set in such a way that a certain person will take the reigns after her passing (were she elected, of course.)
*shrug*

 

[HamburgerBoy]

EDIT: nvm, apparently the news is a month old

 

[MongGrel]

At 0:39 Bill rubs his left eye when he says it is a mystery to me and all her doctors.

That is body language that he is lying and he hopes people do not see what is going on.

Someone touching their left ear or left eye when they say something is probably lying.

The whole body language to me is bullshit to begin with. My father used to try pulling that crap on me in the 70's and he was almost always wrong.

People that formulate opinions based on a random gesture half the time are off base to begin with. My second wife was a psychotherapist and I had to deal with her crap awhile also.

You're basing your opinions on random bullshit, people put too much faith in thinking they can read others intentions on others random gestures a lot of the time.

I'd say there are a high incidence of people misinterpreting "body language" thinking they are reading people over time, the only reason I have worried about it ever is just as guide to avoid some things other people think is some magic indicator of intentions. Some people think it is like reading tarot cards.

Go back to your tugboat, no one is going to take your word about anything.

 

[MongGrel]

Anyone see the footage of one of her coughing fits and they zoomed in on the glass of water they gave her... she spits out a GIANT wad of yellow-orange phlegm into the glass. That woman's battling a serious illness, which is fine in its own right. Just be honest about it!

I can't help but wonder if she knows she's going to die in the next year and has the dominoes set in such a way that a certain person will take the reigns after her passing (were she elected, of course.)
*shrug*

You mean like Trump is planning on handing over the reins to Pence if he is elected ?

He doesn't want to be President, other than to say he did it.

I do not want him or Pence in charge of the military.

 

[Jhhnn]

Absolutely no one who has seen that video and watched her loaded into a van like a large, limp piece of meat with one shoe missing believes that she didn't lose consciousness. I'm not sure why she would even try to pass that off as the truth, except habit, given that passing out from pneumonia is hardly in and of itself remarkable or a setback to her campaign. It could even be spun as an example of how hardworking she is. (You know, working through pneumonia when normally they would have already put her down for her first nap.) It's rather disturbing that her staff and protection detail took this as normal, and that she travels with her own doctor, but hardly a major setback.

And for those who don't know, "squeeze my fingers" is a test of comprehension not only used for stroke or epilepsy.


What in Trump's pre-campaign history would make you believe anything he says?

Even assuming we suspend belief, he gets visa hires and cheap foreign manufacturing labor for his own businesses. Dude's a billionaire; if he's not willing to accept lower profit for himself, then obviously his professed beliefs are extremely shallow compared to his self-interest.


lol +1

Sadly, zombie Hillary is no worse a candidate than live Hillary - or Trump.

Or, you know, when she was feeling woozy & they said "we have you" she let them do it?

What is the source of the assertion that Hillary travels with a personal physician?

What leads you to believe that the staff & the protection detail took this as "normal"?

You're remarkably adept at putting out the FUD under the wrapper of reasonableness.

 

[werepossum]

Or, you know, when she was feeling woozy & they said "we have you" she let them do it?

What is the source of the assertion that Hillary travels with a personal physician?

What leads you to believe that the staff & the protection detail took this as "normal"?

You're remarkably adept at putting out the FUD under the wrapper of reasonableness.

Nah, I'm just remarkably reasonable about things which interfere with your vapid far left view.

 

[nexus5rocks]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE-hKEA8ALo

LOL making excuses for Hillary.
It was unseasonably cool, NOT hot, NOT humid in downtown in NYC.

 

[trenchfoot]

Well, I guess any time soon the Repub controlled House and Senate will be forming up more select committees to prove how Hillary's fainting spells caused four Americans to die in Benghazi.

 

[Texashiker]

The whole body language to me is bullshit to begin with.

The FBI and other law enforcement agencies disagree with you.

 

[werepossum]

Hey, everybody, watch this:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._measure_in_case_there_were_to_be_a_fall.html

NBC's Alex Witt: Clinton's Traveling Physician "Merely A Precautionary Measure" In Case There Were To Be A Fall
Tim Hains
On Date September 11, 2016

NBC's Alex Witt: Clinton's Traveling Physician "Merely A Precautionary Measure" In Case There Were To Be A Fall

MSNBC reports on Hillary Clinton's fall Sunday in New York City, saying that "when someone is taking blood thinners," it is important to have a "protective layer" there, such as a personal physician "in case there were to be a fall" on the trail. "If she is traveling with a physician, it is merely a precautionary measure," NBC's Alex Witt reported.

Witt talked to NBC's Kristen Welker, who was staking out the ill Clinton who was taking a break at her daughter's Manhattan apartment.

"It's not out of the ordinary," NBC's Welker defended Clinton's use of a traveling physician, noting her "punishing" schedule on the campaign trail. Transcript of the exchange below.

RAW: Clinton Stumbles And Falls, Escorted Into Van After Abruptly Leaving 9/11 Memorial

ALEX WITT, MSNBC: Let me say, viewers, you may be able to hear this in my voice --I'm sick today and I'm working-- and many of us do that, not feeling 100% and you just keep going.

And my I ask though, the extent to which Secretary of State Hillary Clinton travels with a physician, and there is some hay made of that. I will also say anecdotally that my father is a physician, and I've spoken with him and other physicians, about the prospect if she is traveling with a physician, it is merely a precautionary measure.

When someone is taking blood thinners, it is important to have sort of a protective layer there, in case there were to be a fall.

It is not necessarily some emergency focus. But rather something that, just in case it is a wise thing to do. Do you know the extent to which she travels with a physician?

KRISTEN WELKER, MSNBC: That is right. And it is not out of the ordinary you would have that type of situation when you are on such a punishing schedule like a campaign. I think that is the right way to put into context. There seems to be a little bit of movement here outside of the apartment, Alex, so we're going to go try and see what we can figure out and get back to you asap. But again, she came here after not feeling well. And resting at her daughter's apartment, presumably would be looked at by that physician that you mentioned, just to make sure everything is okay.

Hey, sometimes it's fun to poke the troll.

 

[Jhhnn]

Hey, everybody, watch this:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._measure_in_case_there_were_to_be_a_fall.html


Hey, sometimes it's fun to poke the troll.

Fail-

"If she is traveling with a physician, it is merely a precautionary measure," NBC's Alex Witt reported.

"If" being the operative term.

 

[JSt0rm]

if i was a rich beyond most peoples dreams 70 year old i would travel with a personal doctor. Thats how the rich do it...

Personal general care doctors and ultra high end specialists that only take cash. This excludes all the plebs from ever trying to contact them about care.

 

[Jhhnn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE-hKEA8ALo

LOL making excuses for Hillary.
It was unseasonably cool, NOT hot, NOT humid in downtown in NYC.

Bullshit-

https://www.wunderground.com/histor...reqdb.zip=10001&reqdb.magic=4&reqdb.wmo=99999

Humid, too.

 

[Pens1566]

Bullshit-

https://www.wunderground.com/histor...reqdb.zip=10001&reqdb.magic=4&reqdb.wmo=99999

Humid, too.

Yeah, that's been debunked already. There was another congressmen in attendance that stated he sweat through his shirt it was so muggy. An hour+ of standing in that, in the sun, with full pantsuit. NBC reported she was wearing a protective vest as well. That'll do it.

Of course, the vest is necessary because of someone's statement about 2nd amendment solutions.

 

[Balt]

The FBI and other law enforcement agencies disagree with you.

Actually, they don't. Even the FBI and LE don't claim to be human lie detectors, unless maybe it's somebody trying to sell a book. Even the very best at it only correctly identify a lie from a truth slightly more than 50% of the time. Asking follow-up questions and making people answer the same question in different ways (chronologically and then backwards, for example) is really how they do it.

What they mostly look at, in terms of body language, is changes in behavior. Someone who suddenly tenses up or starts fidgeting still doesn't identify a lie, however. It just identifies a subject the person being interrogated may not want to talk about.

 

[Jhhnn]

Actually, they don't. Even the FBI and LE don't claim to be human lie detectors, unless maybe it's somebody trying to sell a book. Even the very best at it only correctly identify a lie from a truth slightly more than 50% of the time. Asking follow-up questions and making people answer the same question in different ways (chronologically and then backwards, for example) is really how they do it.

What they mostly look at, in terms of body language, is changes in behavior. Someone who suddenly tenses up or starts fidgeting still doesn't identify a lie, however. It just identifies a subject the person being interrogated may not want to talk about.

Besides that, the FBI is highly trained. TH isn't- he just wants to call Clinton a liar.

 

[Starbuck1975]

The Clinton campaign excels at mishandling the truth.

 

[MongGrel]

The FBI and other law enforcement agencies disagree with you.

I still do not care. And probably why they are wrong a lot of the time, whether they care to admit it or not.

Balt pretty much covered this one all ready though.

 

[IGBT]

https://theintercept.com/2016/09/13/colin-powell-emails/

On Hillary: Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with hubris.”
“They are going to dick up the legitimate and necessary use of emails with friggin record rules. I saw email more like a telephone than a cable machine,” Powell wrote last year to his business partner Jeffrey Leeds. “As long as the stuff is unclassified. I had a secure State.gov machine. Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with hubris.”