Hillary Clinton Contiues the American Apology

bfdd

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She needs to go, she is a terrible representative of the USA and it infuriates me to no end the power she yields so poorly.
 

Jaskalas

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Americans die, condemn Americans. Yes we can!

This Democrat message from Clinton is nauseating - but do you really believe a Republican message would be any different?
 

PokerGuy

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obummer and hillary: "we're sorry, we should not have allowed someone to exercise their rights and offend idiots in the process, we should have asked the imams in the middle east what rights we are allowed to have".

Disgusting.
 

Geosurface

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Before she gets too far into how reprehensible the video is, how about we hear why it's reprehensible? Other than the worst production qualities and acting known to man? I mean, is what's shown accurate to what's in the Koran or what's known about Muhammed's life and actions, or is it not?

I like how she says we have a long tradition of freedom of expression almost begrudgingly, and like she's working on fixing that glaring oversight.
 

bfdd

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Her use of the word reprehensible is what pisses me off the most. Don't care if she knows or doesn't know what it means, it's the wrong fucking word to use because we do not censure speech like that here, it is a goddamn protected right and I am insanely offends that she would even use anything close to a word that has to do with censure. Disgusting? I agree, but not reprehensible and she owes us Americans an apology for offending our ideals now. I'll be waiting Mrs. Secretary.

Can we stop with the what the Republicans would have done, fucking idiots fighting over non-sense. Our Government is the government of the Democrats AND Republicans, it is not one of the people so shut the fuck up with your stupid party fighting.
 
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jackstar7

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I just see them as saying, "Yeah, sorry. We've got assholes in our country, too. Don't feed the trolls."

Rights come with responsibilities.
 

Budmantom

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She spent substantially more time criticizing and apologizing for the video than condemning the murderers, this is consistent with the democratic party.
 

SheHateMe

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So what would you have them do...embrace the fucking movie? FOUR people DIED behind this. There have been more riots in other countries and more embassies under attack...really, what would you have them do?

They don't want anymore bloodshed over this. Didnt Dubya apologize for a copy of the Quran being shot with a gun during one of his terms?


Yes, apologize and keep on fucking apologizing until these idiots stop rioting and attacking our Diplomats abroad.
 

OCGuy

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Obama's arab spring chickens...

Are coming home to ROOST!

Let this be a lesson in Syria. It is better to have the brutal Assad in power than a Saudi-backed Jihadi government.

They will turn on us immediately.
 

jackstar7

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She spent substantially more time criticizing and apologizing for the video than condemning the murderers, this is consistent with the democratic party.

"But as I said yesterday, there is no justification -- none at all -- for responding to this video with violence. We condemn the violence that has resulted in the strongest terms." - Sec. Clinton
 

bfdd

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I just see them as saying, "Yeah, sorry. We've got assholes in our country, too. Don't feed the trolls."

Rights come with responsibilities.

No they fuckinbg don't and that is the largest load of shit I have ever fucking heard. The rights listed in the bill of rights are natural and unalienable. Man is no more responsible for his nature than a pig or whale is for theirs. The Government isn't in the position to grant us rights, it's there to protect them.
 

spidey07

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Let this be a lesson in Syria. It is better to have the brutal Assad in power than a Saudi-backed Jihadi government.

They will turn on us immediately.

All of this was predicted, we all knew this was going to be the outcome. It was only liberals and obama supporters who couldn't see it or refuse that what we're seeing today is the only outcome if you learn from history instead of repeating it.
 

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So what would you have them do...embrace the fucking movie? FOUR people DIED behind this. There have been more riots in other countries and more embassies under attack...really, what would you have them do?

They don't want anymore bloodshed over this. Didnt Dubya apologize for a copy of the Quran being shot with a gun during one of his terms?


Yes, apologize and keep on fucking apologizing until these idiots stop rioting and attacking our Diplomats abroad.

You certainly don't come out and attack our Constitution, which is exactly what she did.
 

jackstar7

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No they fuckinbg don't and that is the largest load of shit I have ever fucking heard. The rights listed in the bill of rights are natural and unalienable. Man is no more responsible for his nature than a pig or whale is for theirs. The Government isn't in the position to grant us rights, it's there to protect them.

What the fuck?

We have laws.
 

bfdd

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"But as I said yesterday, there is no justification -- none at all -- for responding to this video with violence. We condemn the violence that has resulted in the strongest terms." - Sec. Clinton

"Strongest terms" sure carries a lot of weight. Way more than let's say string terms like, disgusting and reprehensible. She specifically had words chosen to describe the video, but none as hard and strong for the violence. Only reference to their existence. If you are completely incapable of seeing this subtext then I don't know how to help you.
 

bfdd

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What the fuck?

We have laws.

And 99% of them are bullshit and IMO themselves illegal and unjust. We simply aren't used to that concept because we were raised in this era and we're just supposed to accept reality as it is presented to us because it had already been figured out that perception is reality. Truth is our Government that we the people had doesn't exist any Longer what we have ow is an extreme bastardization due to assholes trying to control the world through legislation. Stolen from us long ago when the party of Jefferson crushed Hamilton's.
 

berzerker60

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Jesus Christ you Republicans are whiny babies. "Oh no someone criticized my free speech, you're violating my rights!!!!!" No, criticizing free speech is also free speech. That's what free speech is. You're allowed to make a dumb movie, I'm allowed to call it dumb, you're allowed to call me dumb. That's how free speech works, not the right to say anything you want without consequences or anyone saying anything negative about it.
 

Matt1970

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So what would you have them do...embrace the fucking movie? FOUR people DIED behind this. There have been more riots in other countries and more embassies under attack...really, what would you have them do?

They don't want anymore bloodshed over this. Didnt Dubya apologize for a copy of the Quran being shot with a gun during one of his terms?


Yes, apologize and keep on fucking apologizing until these idiots stop rioting and attacking our Diplomats abroad.

Yes, Apologize for having a free Country. Then we'll just sit down and talk with them. We will start passing laws that ban movies about the Muslim religion and sensor the content of anything that might get out to the Arab world. We will just start eliminating all the freedoms that offend the fucking nutcases in other Countries. The USA should NEVER apologize for it's freedoms.
 

ky54

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It's never been a secret that "progressives" (in the 30's version of the word) hate the First Amendment.
 

Matt1970

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Jesus Christ you Republicans are whiny babies. "Oh no someone criticized my free speech, you're violating my rights!!!!!" No, criticizing free speech is also free speech. That's what free speech is. You're allowed to make a dumb movie, I'm allowed to call it dumb, you're allowed to call me dumb. That's how free speech works, not the right to say anything you want without consequences or anyone saying anything negative about it.

A citizen criticizing our rights? Fine. The Government doing it? NO.