Hey guys, test your subs out...

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: DLeRium
Weak. My Z2300s took that on easily. I say get a better source file even..

no way in hell

What are you talking about. This was nothing for my sub.

I'm pretty sure that it WAS nothing for your sub since it probably can't reproduce frequencies that low.

Hell, mine is a 100wattrms 400watt peak 10 inch and the specs say :

"(+/-3dB) 23-120Hz"

No way IN HELL that yours can even do that....



According to the Logitech website your system has a frequency response: 35Hz - 20kHz , and keep in mind that THX certification is pretty much BS on computer speakers....

It definitely means soemthign on home theaters speakers but there are things out there that far exceed those specs




And keep in mind that My Mirage Speakers and Athena sub are sH!T compared to the speaks I see at clients houses....

Some of those B&W's or M&K's or whatever just RAPE my meager setup

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
those clips were insane.....


my sub's suspension hates you

Like an F150 bouncing down the road with its bed filled to the rim with galena.

:laugh:

<---jsut drove home in an e350 FILLED TO THE BRIM, and whose suspension shows NO sign of what lies within, and DEFNITELY saw a lot of weighed-down e150s

 

[Rubycon]

I think they're talking about the OP's clip there wingman.

Baroclinic tendancies of nor'easters can rip your pieplates off the walls if yous know what I mean.

 

[NuKe9]

Check out these mp3's...

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
LOL

Edit:

If you really have Voice of the Theatre systems you're most likely very mismatched. The 525 compression driver needs serious phase alignment as well as impedance matching to work with consumer audio. It sounds nice when set up properly with a valve amp obviously.

The bass bin driver - horn loaded and very efficient rolls off sharply below 44 Hz and has an unusual front (dust cap) vented arrangement. It's also a 16 ohm speaker so it takes a very high voltage (read non home) amp to drive to high levels.

I'll bet you a dollar nobody on this forum owns VOTT speakers. I will, however, agree that you can hear below 20Hz, it's just that you need a very high SPL in order to do so.

IEMs might be able to do 6Hz. The distance between the diaphragm and your eardrum is very small, and there's a hell of a lot of "room" gain.

Do you two know something that science does not? Please enlighten the world.

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/ChrisDAmbrose.shtml

What exactly is the scientific explanation for the 20-20 000Hz brick wall human bandpass?

For very low frequencies (below 20Hz), the pressure waves propagate along the complete route of the cochlea - up scala vestibuli, around helicotrema and down scala tympani to the round window. Frequencies this low do not activate the organ of Corti and are below the threshold for hearing. Higher frequencies do not propagate to the helicotrema but are transmitted through the endolymph in the cochlea duct to the perilymph in the scala tympani.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochlea

"Below 20Hz" is not very precise. Is there a discontinuity to the left of these functions?

http://www.silcom.com/~aludwig/images/Fletcher-Munson.jpg

Possibly. I am still doing some research. Everything still points to most "sound" below 20Hz is felt by humans, not heard. One might think they are hearing it, when in fact, it is felt. The brain perceives this sensation as sound, "incorrectly".

 

[Rubycon]

Text

Gets the meters going right around 4:00.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Good lord if you think that has a lot of bass your system must be way over eq'd.

Want to hear real bass? Give this a shot. No limiting or rolloff used. With a real subwoofer (extension to below 20 Hz) it makes the air move in the room big time.

DING DING DING. Looks like some people are running their subs WAYYYY to high. There is nothing in that song that could even constitute a bass test

Yup. Most people have their bass waay overexaggerated. I get a pretty crisp, deep sounding concert bass drump punch sound with my relatively modest Swan M200/Velodyne VX10 setup. No earth shattering rumble.

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Good lord if you think that has a lot of bass your system must be way over eq'd.

Want to hear real bass? Give this a shot. No limiting or rolloff used. With a real subwoofer (extension to below 20 Hz) it makes the air move in the room big time.

DING DING DING. Looks like some people are running their subs WAYYYY to high. There is nothing in that song that could even constitute a bass test

Yup. Most people have their bass waay overexaggerated. I get a pretty crisp, deep sounding concert bass drump punch sound with my relatively modest Swan M200/Velodyne VX10 setup. No earth shattering rumble.

And I bet yours is dead on then. Generally for orchestral music bass should not "stand out" it should blend with the other sounds and sound the same as if the orchestra was playing it right in front of you.

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Text

Gets the meters going right around 4:00.

I like that one...kinda creepy

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Good lord if you think that has a lot of bass your system must be way over eq'd.

Want to hear real bass? Give this a shot. No limiting or rolloff used. With a real subwoofer (extension to below 20 Hz) it makes the air move in the room big time.

DING DING DING. Looks like some people are running their subs WAYYYY to high. There is nothing in that song that could even constitute a bass test

Yup. Most people have their bass waay overexaggerated. I get a pretty crisp, deep sounding concert bass drump punch sound with my relatively modest Swan M200/Velodyne VX10 setup. No earth shattering rumble.

And I bet yours is dead on then. Generally for orchestral music bass should not "stand out" it should blend with the other sounds and sound the same as if the orchestra was playing it right in front of you.

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Text

Gets the meters going right around 4:00.

I like that one...kinda creepy

Yup I configure mine with a frequency generator. I configure it so that every frequency sounds about the same volume.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
LOL

Edit:

If you really have Voice of the Theatre systems you're most likely very mismatched. The 525 compression driver needs serious phase alignment as well as impedance matching to work with consumer audio. It sounds nice when set up properly with a valve amp obviously.

The bass bin driver - horn loaded and very efficient rolls off sharply below 44 Hz and has an unusual front (dust cap) vented arrangement. It's also a 16 ohm speaker so it takes a very high voltage (read non home) amp to drive to high levels.

I'll bet you a dollar nobody on this forum owns VOTT speakers. I will, however, agree that you can hear below 20Hz, it's just that you need a very high SPL in order to do so.

IEMs might be able to do 6Hz. The distance between the diaphragm and your eardrum is very small, and there's a hell of a lot of "room" gain.

Do you two know something that science does not? Please enlighten the world.

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/ChrisDAmbrose.shtml

What exactly is the scientific explanation for the 20-20 000Hz brick wall human bandpass?

For very low frequencies (below 20Hz), the pressure waves propagate along the complete route of the cochlea - up scala vestibuli, around helicotrema and down scala tympani to the round window. Frequencies this low do not activate the organ of Corti and are below the threshold for hearing. Higher frequencies do not propagate to the helicotrema but are transmitted through the endolymph in the cochlea duct to the perilymph in the scala tympani.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochlea

"Below 20Hz" is not very precise. Is there a discontinuity to the left of these functions?

http://www.silcom.com/~aludwig/images/Fletcher-Munson.jpg

Possibly. I am still doing some research. Everything still points to most "sound" below 20Hz is felt by humans, not heard. One might think they are hearing it, when in fact, it is felt. The brain perceives this sensation as sound, "incorrectly".

I'd say people feel 21Hz more than they "hear" it, but it's still considered within the range of audible frequencies.

 

[J0hnny]

Damn $10 speakers at work. Will test this at home.

 

[Aquila76]

Originally posted by: Crescent13

Originally posted by: quasarsky

what's to be about?

That's all that assclown ever posts.

Nice clip, BTW. Pegged my work PC's Logitech X-220 sub.
Can't wait to try it on my 2x JL 12w6 in the car on lunch!

EDIT: Err, how do you get MP3 off putfile? I haven't used that one.

 

[RagingBITCH]

tagged!

 

[Rubycon]

This sounds kind of trashy but it will give your woofers a good rogering. :laugh:

Luckily it's short enough not to get one in trouble.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
LOL

Edit:

If you really have Voice of the Theatre systems you're most likely very mismatched. The 525 compression driver needs serious phase alignment as well as impedance matching to work with consumer audio. It sounds nice when set up properly with a valve amp obviously.

The bass bin driver - horn loaded and very efficient rolls off sharply below 44 Hz and has an unusual front (dust cap) vented arrangement. It's also a 16 ohm speaker so it takes a very high voltage (read non home) amp to drive to high levels.

I'll bet you a dollar nobody on this forum owns VOTT speakers. I will, however, agree that you can hear below 20Hz, it's just that you need a very high SPL in order to do so.

IEMs might be able to do 6Hz. The distance between the diaphragm and your eardrum is very small, and there's a hell of a lot of "room" gain.

Do you two know something that science does not? Please enlighten the world.

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/ChrisDAmbrose.shtml

What exactly is the scientific explanation for the 20-20 000Hz brick wall human bandpass?

For very low frequencies (below 20Hz), the pressure waves propagate along the complete route of the cochlea - up scala vestibuli, around helicotrema and down scala tympani to the round window. Frequencies this low do not activate the organ of Corti and are below the threshold for hearing. Higher frequencies do not propagate to the helicotrema but are transmitted through the endolymph in the cochlea duct to the perilymph in the scala tympani.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochlea

"Below 20Hz" is not very precise. Is there a discontinuity to the left of these functions?

http://www.silcom.com/~aludwig/images/Fletcher-Munson.jpg

Possibly. I am still doing some research. Everything still points to most "sound" below 20Hz is felt by humans, not heard. One might think they are hearing it, when in fact, it is felt. The brain perceives this sensation as sound, "incorrectly".

I'd say people feel 21Hz more than they "hear" it, but it's still considered within the range of audible frequencies.

And that is a valid point. Fact is, not enough research has been done in my opinion. Seems that most people are satisfied with the general thought that humans can't hear infrasonic sound. Some animals can, and do communicate with it (elephants) but we are simply unable to.

We can even detect the infrasonic waves produced from earthquakes many miles away (yet a human couldn't).

The 20Hz mark seems to be simply a guide. It is thought that some can hear a bit below, for sure (16Hz), but not many.

I wish a university would look into this subject more. Oh well.