[Hexus]Nvidia’s F2P in-game cash bundle

[RussianSensation]

Sure, it does. Because there is not NSR #2 for equal AMD cards.

You are saying NSR bundle doesn't apply to HD7850-7970 cards?

I feel sorry for anyone who buys this over this.

 

[sontin]

No, i thought it would only apply to the GTX650TI and lower.

 

[notty22]

Proof? .

It seems you are trying to find NV vs. AMD in every post, which is why your mind tends to gravitate towards seeing bias in nearly every response.

Great, more walls of text. More misdirection, like the strawman arguments you twist around peoples posts to state, 'so you are saying'. Don't care about your European, elitism theories and Apple hating, and marketing conspiracy theories for ones company success, and endless whining and excuse making for your current vanguard.
From now on, I will call you on every comment and ask for proof and links. Which you often provide to your arguments but not always.

edit: And your endless cherry-picking and spamming of low ball prices in your posts and total denial that most of the 7970's are over 400 dollars, and other card price comparisons.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Check this on TechReport's website regarding Hawken, post by demalion, upvoted by 50 members!!!

lol come on RS. It's not like the internet isn't filled with disgruntled AMD users/trolls.



This one was my favorite!

hawken is very much a competitive style shooter and everything shown in that video just fluffs up the screen and distracts, and quite frankly looks pretty dumb.

Reminds me of the endless debate over BF3 where countless threads dwindled into chaos over max settings at 1600p.

 

[RussianSensation]

lol come on RS. It's not like the internet isn't filled with disgruntled AMD users/trolls.

Believe it or not I actually like PhysX in Hawken. I was only bringing up the point to highlight the double standards and hypocricy of downplaying great value when the competitor offers it and then justify the same moves when your employer does it to promote its key features/games/tech.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

He's just a person, and as far I'm concerned everyone should be entitled to an opinion without getting attacked over it.

We're discussing opinions here, not facts, there is no right or wrong, only what someone feels. There is no reason for him to get attacked because his opinion is AMD is dooky and Nvidia is a golden idol (or whatever it may be).

Tolerance is something sorely lacking around here, which is why every thing turns into a mud flinging fest.

 

[RussianSensation]

Don't care about your European, elitism theories and Apple hating,

You seem to be upset when people make a connection between Apple users overpaying for the brand and NV GPU owners often engaging in similar practices. I am guessing I touched a nerve there since you see the connection of brand marketing.

From now on, I will call you on every comment and ask for proof and links. Which you often provide to your arguments but not always.

You said people downplayed previous NV GPU bundles. I actually bought 470s because they had a bunch of free games over 5850s (and other awesome features of 470s like OCing headroom, class-leading DX11 performance in modern games, more VRAM, ironically all the features HD7900 trounces GTX680 in, etc.)

edit: And your endless cherry-picking and spamming of low ball prices in your posts and total denial that most of the 7970's are over 400 dollars, and other card price comparisons.

Most of the prices I quote come from Amazon, Newegg or NCIX. These are very popular online shops in North America. You seem to be in denial that many HD7950s and 7970s were selling for way less than 670/680 cards since at least July. No need for me to cherry-pick anything. Where do you think all those comments came from that NV charges more for cards because of (insert better drivers, physX, 3D vision, etc.).

Also, I look for cheapest prices on GTX600 and HD7000 cards on those 3 websites. I can easily find 1Ghz HD7970 for under $400 but I cannot find a GTX680 for those prices. Can you?

 

[SirPauly]

Believe it or not I actually like PhysX in Hawken.

I do as well and my favorite are the turbulence effects in Hawken -- when I did see the turbulence effects in Dark Void, definitely desired to see more - think they're neat!

 

[Ferzerp]

Bundles are derpy schemes to make it seem like you're getting a better value. They're paying pennies on the dollar for these things (if even that in this f2p thing). Lowering prices would be a much better thing, but as long as people are fooled by the "$100 value!" crap, it will keep happening.

 

[tviceman]

Techreport sums up this bundle vs. AMD's bundle quite nicely:

I can't help but feel that this offer lacks the pizazz of the AMD one, though. The sense of value is clearly more abstract, given that anyone is free to download and play Hawken, PlanetSide 2, and World of Tanks without paying anything. Extra in-game goodies may improve the experience, but I'm not sure they have quite the same entertainment value as a whole new game—or two.

http://techreport.com/news/24349/nvidia-bundles-geforce-gtx-cards-with-free-to-play-credit

 

[The Alias]

Also, I look for cheapest prices on GTX600 and HD7000 cards on those 3 websites. I can easily find 1Ghz HD7970 for under $400 but I cannot find a GTX680 for those prices. Can you?

probably gonna use a microcenter in-store pickup price lol

 

[Will Robinson]

Originally Posted by Phynaz
Lol, You see these ridiculous "business moves" by an obviously desperate company because they do not have any other options. They have no new technology to overtake anything out there now, and to even move one of their products off the shelves, will give away money to make it happen.

-Keysplayer.
:thumbup:

Classic case of foot-in-mouth.

Classic pwnage there lol
And as for the "hater" PM...yikes!
That's the 2nd time recently someone has got a poison pen PM from him...wtf Keys?
Posting as an NV fan is one thing but harrassment PMs is over the top dude.:thumbsdown:

 

[thilanliyan]

Techreport sums up this bundle vs. AMD's bundle quite nicely:


http://techreport.com/news/24349/nvidia-bundles-geforce-gtx-cards-with-free-to-play-credit

And don't forget everyone... Techreport is THE bastion of truth ever since they broke the AMD frame time story!! They are always right...always...seriously, ALWAYS! Therefore we can conclude that nVidia's bundle sucks and AMD's is better. Anyone that argues that nVidia's bundle is better must visit Techreport and be enlightened, and refrain from posting further in this thread, unless you have something nice to say about AMD's bundle.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

Why? Crisis 3 is just a scrappy walled off console port with bad graphics.

At least these are all PC titles, two of them even have physx!


Way to start a thread guys!

Actually Crysis 3 falls under the EA agreement to have all their titles be part of the Gaming Evolved program. Not sure what this does to Crysis being a TWIMTBP title, but AMD is involved in the dev process now.

 

[RussianSensation]

He's just a person, and as far I'm concerned everyone should be entitled to an opinion without getting attacked over it.

We're discussing opinions here, not facts, there is no right or wrong, only what someone feels. There is no reason for him to get attacked because his opinion is AMD is dooky and Nvidia is a golden idol (or whatever it may be).

Tolerance is something sorely lacking around here, which is why every thing turns into a mud flinging fest.

If you said you love Planetside 2, WoT and Hawken over AMD's GE bundled games, people wouldn't say anything. The comments made by Keys are akin to someone who works at Coca Cola mocking Pepsi for being "desperate" for launching Gatorade because it's a non-carbonated beverage. Weeks later Coca-Cola introduces Powerade as a competitor...

I am pretty sure it's not professional to publicly rip apart your competitor and then see your company doing the same thing to improve sales.

 

[AnandThenMan]

I like when companies show desperation to get your business. That means they are trying harder to win you over and offer better value. When companies take their branding and market position for granted and milk their loyal consumers, they get into trouble.

The comments made by Keys are akin to someone who works at Coca Cola mocking Pepsi for being "desperate" for launching Gatorade because it's a non-carbonated beverage. Weeks later Coca-Cola introduces Powerade as a competitor....

lol great analogy.

I am pretty sure it's not professional to publicly rip apart your competitor and then see your company doing the same thing to improve sales

Reflects very poorly on Nvidia IMO.

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

First reply won the thread, everything else was unnecessary
Im seriously starting to see Rollo's shadow somewhere around here... No one can be this stupid, biased, and clueless

 

[3DVagabond]

Bundles are derpy schemes to make it seem like you're getting a better value. They're paying pennies on the dollar for these things (if even that in this f2p thing). Lowering prices would be a much better thing, but as long as people are fooled by the "$100 value!" crap, it will keep happening.

You are correct, except that if someone would buy these "giveaways" if they weren't bundled in, then they do offer significantly more value than reducing the price of the product by the amount they cost the supplier would. In cases like game bundles you can actually resell them for likely more than they cost the supplier.

They are definitely a way to save cost to the seller though compared to discounting the product by the same amount. It's called a "win/win/win". Everybody comes out ahead.

 

[sontin]

Techreport sums up this bundle vs. AMD's bundle quite nicely:


http://techreport.com/news/24349/nvidia-bundles-geforce-gtx-cards-with-free-to-play-credit

Hm,

I'm not sure they have quite the same entertainment value

Steam shows me, that i played Planetside 2 140 hours. I don't know, but i guess Planetside had "some entertainment value" for me.

 

[Quantos]

While I haven't played any of the three games in Nvidia's bundle, I did hear good things about all of them. That said, this deal doesn't seem as good as AMD's. The marketing in AMD's deal just sounds a lot better.

I'm convinced that for some people, this deal will actually be very good; as far as I know, Planetside 2 has a good amount of following, so definitely some people might take up this deal. It seems more specialized to people who would play F2P games in the first place, and who are very likely to be attracted by currency in three of them. That said, perhaps the deal would benefit from being even more specific. How about having the possibility of choosing 150$ of currency for one game only? A lot of people I know have the tendency of focusing on a single game at a time; perhaps this would be a way to convince fervent players of Planetside 2, WoT or Hawken to take the deal.

That said, to a less knowledgeable crowd, I cannot help but feel that the AMD deal is better. From an outsider perspective (e.g. someone who doesn't buy computers parts or games often), the perspective of free AAA title sounds better than currency in F2P games.

 

[raghu78]

I think you're clueless and really do hate me personally.

the way you behave you make it easy for anybody or everybody to dislike you. Even if you are a Nvidia Focus Group member that does not mean you have to constantly praise Nvidia and constantly ridicule and criticize AMD. The best example of that being you called the never settle reloaded bundle a desperate attempt to move product when at the same time Nvidia was bundling Borderlands 2 , Assassins Creed3 and Call of Duty Black Ops II.

For one, you attack ME and my opinion without me even participating in this thread yet. You should have just attacked the subject. It would have been a smarter thing to do.

What do you think you do when it comes to AMD. always attack AMD. there is a difference between opinion and hate / extreme prejudice. Yours is pure hatred for a competitor of the company you get freebies from and adore.

For the next, you seem to think that Nvidia is as desperate as AMD is. If anything, this is a nice PhysX bundle from NV to promote their tech. This very well could be a knee jerk to address the incredible bundle AMD offered as well. I don't discount that, but you thought I might I suppose.

Wow. you really are the worst of all hypocrites. When AMD bundles games they are desperate. When Nvidia does they are not.

Like I said. Clueless.

yeah its you who don't have a clue why people pick on you. because its you who pollute these forums with your non stop anti AMD hate campaign. save us the torture and find some other site for your viral campaign.

 

[railven]

Wow...this got ugly...

On the issue, most F2P games I've played, a lot of the purchasables are vanity or utility.

Why isn't Guild Wars 2 on the list? That's another nVidia game right? I'm not sure what the resale value is on these coupons, but if I were buying now I'd definitely sell them.

Isn't Eve another nVidia game? I know The Secret World is and that just went F2P.

Seems with so many F2P games branding an nVidia logo, they could have just made some general coupon to work wherever...ie cash?

 

[SirPauly]

While I haven't played any of the three games in Nvidia's bundle, I did hear good things about all of them. That said, this deal doesn't seem as good as AMD's. The marketing in AMD's deal just sounds a lot better.

I'm convinced that for some people, this deal will actually be very good; as far as I know, Planetside 2 has a good amount of following, so definitely some people might take up this deal. It seems more specialized to people who would play F2P games in the first place, and who are very likely to be attracted by currency in three of them. That said, perhaps the deal would benefit from being even more specific. How about having the possibility of choosing 150$ of currency for one game only? A lot of people I know have the tendency of focusing on a single game at a time; perhaps this would be a way to convince fervent players of Planetside 2, WoT or Hawken to take the deal.

That said, to a less knowledgeable crowd, I cannot help but feel that the AMD deal is better. From an outsider perspective (e.g. someone who doesn't buy computers parts or games often), the perspective of free AAA title sounds better than currency in F2P games.

Nice post! Personally think AMD's is better but also feel that nVidia's is an interesting concept based on the popularity of the free-to-play model and titles. Interesting thinking and curious what team or individual came up with the idea!

 

[WelshBloke]

Planetside 2 is pretty good and there's a lot of people playing.

That said $25 is not a lot when there's plenty of half price and other offers on the in game currency.

It's an interesting idea but I can't see it driving sales as much as free games.

 

[SirPauly]

Was actually curious about the free-to-play models and what kind of impact they are having on the PC Platform:

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/join-the-free-to-play-revolution