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Starbuck1975

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Trump is softening the ground for when he starts pardoning people in his administration and people close too him
There are a few good articles out there suggesting that these pardons are Trump signaling to Cohen and Manafort, amongst others, that he has their backs, so that they don’t flip for Mueller.
 

compuwiz1

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There are a few good articles out there suggesting that these pardons are Trump signaling to Cohen and Manafort, amongst others, that he has their backs, so that they don’t flip for Mueller.

As always, there will be conspiracy theories. Did you know that drinking beer causes your babies to be born naked? :p
 
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fskimospy

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As always, there will be conspiracy theories. Did you know that drinking beer causes your babies to be born naked? :p

What do you think Trump’s reasoning was for pardoning a guy who was obviously guilty of felony campaign finance crimes, who had admitted as much, but had gotten off pretty easy?

I thought Trump was all about election integrity, lol.
 

1prophet

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What do you think Trump’s reasoning was for pardoning a guy who was obviously guilty of felony campaign finance crimes, who had admitted as much, but had gotten off pretty easy?

I thought Trump was all about election integrity, lol.

Trump is the ugliness that you are forced to look at while you gnash your teeth about the injustice of it all, the end result of a two party corporate owned establishment political system that promoted profits before people, red carpet service to their benefactors while paying lip service to the middle class, the inevitable result of the lowest common denominator thinking in the race to the bottom while chasing the "profits only matter" prize.

Fix the economic/social conditions that allowed someone like Trump to become president, or ignore them and blame all your ills on trump without doing anything about the underlying socioeconomic factors and risk having even someone worse next time.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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The left needs to just STFU about this. This is not a thing and is typical of POTUS privilege to pardon.

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-pardons

Bottom line is, you lot are not more moral, just freaking hypocrites.

Because Nixon promising to pardon those who stayed strong was normal.

For sake of discussion , what would you say if Trump started to pardon people like Flynn and others in legal jeopardy?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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What do you think Trump’s reasoning was for pardoning a guy who was obviously guilty of felony campaign finance crimes, who had admitted as much, but had gotten off pretty easy?

I thought Trump was all about election integrity, lol.

Watch maddow on YouTube about Haldeman and Nixon's pardon talk. The part near the end about a tape not released for years is very relevant.
 

fskimospy

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Trump is the ugliness that you are forced to look at while you gnash your teeth about the injustice of it all, the end result of a two party corporate owned establishment political system that promoted profits before people, red carpet service to their benefactors while paying lip service to the middle class, the inevitable result of the lowest common denominator thinking in the race to the bottom while chasing the "profits only matter" prize.

Fix the economic/social conditions that allowed someone like Trump to become president, or ignore them and blame all your ills on trump without doing anything about the underlying socioeconomic factors and risk having even someone worse next time.

There’s little evidence that economic anxiety led to Trump’s election. The evidence mostly points to racial resentment and a perceived loss of status. The average Trump voter made more money than the average Clinton voter, after all.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/us/politics/trump-economic-anxiety.html

People, conservatives in particular, keep trying to push the ‘economic problems’ reason for Trump because the reality is much uglier. They don’t want to admit just how disgusting the views of the average Trump voter are.
 

fskimospy

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Watch maddow on YouTube about Haldeman and Nixon's pardon talk. The part near the end about a tape not released for years is very relevant.

You’re saying it wasn’t because our good friend Dinesh was treated ‘very unfairly’ by the government?

Where’s my fainting couch?!
 
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ivwshane

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Remember when you were all about looking into the "why", when the black president was going to use the pardon?

The left needs to just STFU about this. This is not a thing and is typical of POTUS privilege to pardon.

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-pardons

Bottom line is, you lot are not more moral, just freaking hypocrites.

I think Trump is soft playing on Hillary for show, in the hopes that Obama doesn't pardon her. If O doesn't feel any threat from Trump, he may not pardon her. If he doesn't, I think the Trump administration and his new AG will unleash hell on her. It will be interesting to see who gets pardons before Obama leaves office. After that, we will look into why.

I guess it only makes sense to look at the reason for pardons when it's not your team, right hypocrite?
 
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fskimospy

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Remember when you were all about looking into the "why", when the black president was going to use the pardon?

I guess it only makes sense to look atv the reason for pardons when it's not your team, right hypocrite?

Ouch.
 

TeeJay1952

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Trump is the ugliness that you are forced to look at while you gnash your teeth about the injustice of it all, the end result of a two party corporate owned establishment political system that promoted profits before people, red carpet service to their benefactors while paying lip service to the middle class, the inevitable result of the lowest common denominator thinking in the race to the bottom while chasing the "profits only matter" prize.

Fix the economic/social conditions that allowed someone like Trump to become president, or ignore them and blame all your ills on trump without doing anything about the underlying socioeconomic factors and risk having even someone worse next time.

WORSE? Satan? Putin himself? What could be worse?
 

nickqt

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Make me you son of a bitch. If D'Souza was helping obama this would never have happened at all, obama couldnt stand that D'Souza attacked him. Why isnt george soros facing charges?
He pled guilty you dumb son of a bitch. Quit trying to scapegoat your felon hero, scumbag.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Remember when you were all about looking into the "why", when the black president was going to use the pardon?





I guess it only makes sense to look at the reason for pardons when it's not your team, right hypocrite?

/Done
 
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I dont know, He is very powerful and has lots of resources to defend himself.
I know this is going to make me throw up in my mouth, but drumpf is the president, and if I've heard correctly, that is the most powerful office in the world.
unless donny knows he's a sham, a poseur and will be found out and taken to task publicly and really isn't a billionaire, so big bad soros has beta boy donny cringing in a corner, whooda thunk it?
 

MrSquished

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I see millions of incorruptibles in various comment threads all over the web. There are tons of these morons out there. And not only do they have guns, but they vote too. How the fuck does one sleep at night