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HELP!!..WHAT ARE MY LEGAL RIGHTS HERE?!?!

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
From your own links


There are plenty more stories and positive things in other links of yours. You didn't read it all liar.

Not once did I claim that there weren't any positive points in those links. And I like how you got those "quotes" from the one link that has people's opinions/stories, not the numerous ones with scientific studies done by people one hundred times smarter than you are. Ignorant as usual. Keep it up kid and show everyone how foolish you truly are.

You omitted them and not me. You said all the links proved your point. They don't. BTW, please quit calling me a kid because I seriously doubt your balls have even dropped yet. In fact, I bet you like to act "old" online just to add validity to your arguments. Save it for someone else dick.

Wrong again as usual kid. I omitted nothing. I posted the entire link for everyone (especially uninformed people like you) to read. And I'm still waiting for you to post a scientific article supporting your theories like rahvin requested.

Actually you are wrong again as usual dick. You omitted anything that didn't support your position. I am way more informed than you are. I am still waiting for you to actually read the stuff yourself and visit some forums. Quit being a google doctor and read books about the subject as well.

Anytime you call me a "kid" is going to make me call you a dick. Every time. Any post you do it you will get "dick" in response.

Sure it is kid. Keep attacking me instead of the actual scientific facts I posted. Anyone else can see all I pasted were the links with the full article which you've obviously not read. Again, we're waiting. Post a scientific article supporting your thoeries instead of attacking me. It's not hard, I know you can do it 🙂
 
Originally posted by: dabuddha

Ahh just ignore him. From most of his other posts he tends to be all talk. He obviously has no clue just like EnragedPC.

agreed, effing neffer
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
my parents fingerprints will also be all over that box...and nobody has solid proof that i ever did AS...as the Box and the computer were in THERE house does it not make it THERE property...also making it THERE problem...cant I use that kind of defense tommorow?

If I had a shred of sympathy for you before, it's gone now. You started this thread because you were irate about your parents going through YOUR stuff, finding YOUR steroids, and giving YOUR PC to the cops. Now you want to say it's THEIR stuff, to save your own butt? It's not enough that you got caught, but you want to say that the stuff belonged to your parents?

He should have taken responsibility initially. He chose to break the law and he got busted. I don't agree with what his parents did, but that is tough sh!t. Looks like he needs to adjust his attitude immediately and start taking responsibility for his actions. Blaming anything on his parents makes me lose all sympathy as well.

Why? He's a product of their parenting. For him to turn out like that they have obviously dropped the ball several times along the way.

Gonad- I am not talking about his parent's turning him in or their parenting. I am talking about where he says he wants to FRAME them with his AS!

I'd do the same thing, IF I had asshole parents that tried to use the police instead of themselves to parent me. More so from them setting the example that it's OK to screw your family as much as just wanting to get even. If it was just the latter, I'd never even consider it, no matter how pissed off I was at them.
 
That is enough posts for this thread. Evidently, people believe every thing they see on tv or in the paper.

Enraged- Grow up and take responsibility.
dabuddha- Stop being a dickhead and learn to read.
Everyone else- Please research things and don't take internet links or selective studies as the gospel.

Good day.


<----Off to take a nap before work.
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
From your own links


There are plenty more stories and positive things in other links of yours. You didn't read it all liar.

Not once did I claim that there weren't any positive points in those links. And I like how you got those "quotes" from the one link that has people's opinions/stories, not the numerous ones with scientific studies done by people one hundred times smarter than you are. Ignorant as usual. Keep it up kid and show everyone how foolish you truly are.

You omitted them and not me. You said all the links proved your point. They don't. BTW, please quit calling me a kid because I seriously doubt your balls have even dropped yet. In fact, I bet you like to act "old" online just to add validity to your arguments. Save it for someone else dick.

Wrong again as usual kid. I omitted nothing. I posted the entire link for everyone (especially uninformed people like you) to read. And I'm still waiting for you to post a scientific article supporting your theories like rahvin requested.

Actually you are wrong again as usual dick. You omitted anything that didn't support your position. I am way more informed than you are. I am still waiting for you to actually read the stuff yourself and visit some forums. Quit being a google doctor and read books about the subject as well.

Anytime you call me a "kid" is going to make me call you a dick. Every time. Any post you do it you will get "dick" in response.


well i am still waiting for scientific studies to be shown against mine

you clearly said personality disorders were a myth...

i provided you a published scientific study, not a google search, on how it is not a myth...

you have returned nothing

 
Originally posted by: Millennium
That is enough posts for this thread. Evidently, people believe every thing they see on tv or in the paper.

Enraged- Grow up and take responsibility.
dabuddha- Stop being a dickhead and learn to read.
Everyone else- Please research things and don't take internet links or selective studies as the gospel.

Good day.


<----Off to take a nap before work.


So you are going to leave instead of giving some proof???

Big man you are

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Originally posted by: Millennium
That is enough posts for this thread. Evidently, people believe every thing they see on tv or in the paper.

Enraged- Grow up and take responsibility.
dabuddha- Stop being a dickhead and learn to read.
Everyone else- Please research things and don't take internet links or selective studies as the gospel.

Good day.


<----Off to take a nap before work.

Actually you really need to take your own advice kid. Stop with the attacks on us and instead try providing some scientific proof. Oh wait, that's right. You have none. Sadly, I place you barely one level above EnragedPC. At least you don't stoop to trying to frame your parents (as far as we know) like he seems to be hell bent on doing. But you have proven yourself to be as hard headed and idiotic as he is. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: bobcpg
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
...and please dont comment on steroids when u dont know anything about them....


they have to be illeagal for some reason.

Marijuana is illegal, so are automatic weapons. Neither should be. Your logic is flawed.


BWAH! Sorry, chief, but you just about made me spit coke out my nose with this one. Please tell me you're kidding.

And as to the facts. I'll agree that there's a lot of HEAVILY-biased info out there both pro and con. But please, if you're gonna take this hardline stance and "poo-poo" the links/info posted, do yourself the favor of providing something, ANYTHING to back your side up other than "I don't believe you".
 
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
hey if i have to go down they are goin with me...I dont want to live in this house but I get threatened with police action everytime i try to leave...its MY life I should get to make my own choices...i didnt hurt anybody else or even myself...
Hmm... I might change my mind here... it appears that your fscked-up attitude may have pushed your parents far over the edge.

It is your life and you do get to make your own choices. You've been doing that all along. But choices always have consequences, good or bad. What it sounds like to me is that you're a sniveling little punk who thinks that you can do whatever you want when you want and not ever have to face the consequences of your actions. Wanna know something? If you don't face up to reality and become a man, little boy, that attitude is gonna be your undoing.

I love teenagers - they're great. A profound change in my understanding of them happened years ago. I was like 23 years old and on a sales call at a customer's house. While at the house, the customer (the mother) got a phone call from the school. Her teenage daughter had done something wrong, and the father was picking her up. A little while passes and the father and daughter show up. The daughter is screaming and yelling, pissed off at everyone (even gave me a nasty look), throwing things around (the parents were quite embarrassed), and finally yells at the top of her lungs, "Why can't I be treated as an adult?" and slams her bedroom door.
My first thought was: well, when you decide to act like an adult, maybe then we'll decide to treat you like an adult.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
hey if i have to go down they are goin with me...I dont want to live in this house but I get threatened with police action everytime i try to leave...its MY life I should get to make my own choices...i didnt hurt anybody else or even myself...
Hmm... I might change my mind here... it appears that your fscked-up attitude may have pushed your parents far over the edge.

it's okay, the only reason i made that huge leap of logic so quickly is because i remember his threads from a year ago 😛
 
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
From your own links


There are plenty more stories and positive things in other links of yours. You didn't read it all liar.

Not once did I claim that there weren't any positive points in those links. And I like how you got those "quotes" from the one link that has people's opinions/stories, not the numerous ones with scientific studies done by people one hundred times smarter than you are. Ignorant as usual. Keep it up kid and show everyone how foolish you truly are.

You omitted them and not me. You said all the links proved your point. They don't. BTW, please quit calling me a kid because I seriously doubt your balls have even dropped yet. In fact, I bet you like to act "old" online just to add validity to your arguments. Save it for someone else dick.

Wrong again as usual kid. I omitted nothing. I posted the entire link for everyone (especially uninformed people like you) to read. And I'm still waiting for you to post a scientific article supporting your theories like rahvin requested.

Actually you are wrong again as usual dick. You omitted anything that didn't support your position. I am way more informed than you are. I am still waiting for you to actually read the stuff yourself and visit some forums. Quit being a google doctor and read books about the subject as well.

Anytime you call me a "kid" is going to make me call you a dick. Every time. Any post you do it you will get "dick" in response.

Sure it is kid. Keep attacking me instead of the actual scientific facts I posted. Anyone else can see all I pasted were the links with the full article which you've obviously not read. Again, we're waiting. Post a scientific article supporting your thoeries instead of attacking me. It's not hard, I know you can do it 🙂

Link 1

Link 2

Link 3
 
Hey, if people don't want to agree with me or think I am wrong that is fine. I will accept that, but really I do have to get some sleep. Enjoyed the debate. If I am wrong, then I am wrong and I screwed up. I still don't think the medical community is any more aware of drugs and their effects than the average user. They have personal experience and the doctors do not. I have read plenty of accounts of people that differ from the articles posted. People aren't going to change my opinion, so there is no use arguing with me.

If I am wrong, then sorry.
 
Originally posted by: Millennium

Link 1

Link 2

Link 3

Ahh yes finally some links. First ones an opinion piece. Not too bad I suppose. Second one seems to be from a website that sells steroids. I'm sure they'd tell the truth regarding how bad steroids are
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I'm reading the third one right now but so far, it does not even address the issue of side effects which is what this whole argument is about. Nice try though kid.
 
FOr you guys saying that his parents need to talk to him before they turn him in. I agree - but I believe in this case this little prick has been talked too many times by his parents. Honestly, I believe they are using their last resort.

My 17 year old sister got messed up on extacy when she was 15, and when my parents found out they sat down an talked to her about it then punished her and it seemed that she had stopped using it. Later on, when she was 16, we fond out that she was on crystal meth, and again they talked with her and told her that they would not support her using drugs, etc, and they started drug testing her weekly. At that time, she started behaiving very irrationally, going in rages, etc. She then ran away from home over the summer, and we did not see her until late september.

NOw, mind you, my sister is not a small girl. She is built like Laura Croft, she was on the girls weightlifting team at her high school, etc. Before she ran away, she got in a fight with 3 different girls, and kicked their asses. She was expelled from school due to one of those incidents also.

Anyway, when she came back, she seemed notably calmer, and moved back in. After getting in an arguement with my stepfather and father, instead of verbally arguing, she started to fight, She punched 7 holes in out walls, messed both of her hands up by hitting studs, etc. My parents had her arrested, then had her put in mental behavior facility. They ran all kinds of mental tests, and they did one of those brain scans and we were shocked. If you have ever seen one of those scans where a drug user brain has holes all in it, that's what it looked like. They told us that all of her bahavior was brought on by drug use, and she had been permanently changed due to it.

It's been almost year since she moved back in in, and after many hours with an anger managment therapist, and psychologists, she had made a complete change for the better. She no longer uses drugs, but she did get pregnant right before we turned her in, but thankfully her baby has not been effected by the drugs (as far as the doctors can tell). She's due any day now, BTW.

Anyway, sorry about the rambling, but I can honestly tell you that if we had not had her arrested, she would probably be dead by now. It's because we took that action that she is where she is today.
 
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium

Link 1

Link 2

Link 3

Ahh yes finally some links. First ones an opinion piece. Not too bad I suppose. Second one seems to be from a website that sells steroids. I'm sure they'd tell the truth regarding how bad steroids are
rolleye.gif
I'm reading the third one right now but so far, it does not even address the issue of side effects which is what this whole argument is about. Nice try though kid.

Millenium, the only thing those links show is that anabolic steroids add muscle. Nobody is arguing that. We are talking about the side effects.
 
I am not close-minded. I don't take links or medical studies at face value. Only the ignorant and stupid ignore the underlying facts
I'd love to see some links to medical studies supporting your position. I've not researched steroids much at all but a medical journal would be a nice start to swaying me to see things your way.

Wow there's alot of angst in this thread. I'll bet he was about to break! I'm guessing that he's always butting heads against his parents and they felt this was their last chance to get this thick headed son to wake up before he turned 18 moved out and really screwed himself over. Perhaps it was a misguided attempt, but at least they tried to do something I guess. I wish we could get his parents side of the story, I'll bet he's a real joy to live with.

My advice to enragedpc would be to loose the attitude and just move out. The police aren't going to care, so instead of wasting your money on drugs go see how you do in the real world. Are you still in high school?
 
1st DONT SAY ANYTHING TO THEM! anything you say, can and will be used agenst you. get a lawyer, if you can't afford one, one will be appointed to you. beyond that, your lawyer will inform you of your legal rights, as far as a search of your room, its not illegal unless you pay rent. your rights in this case are limited and you need to protect yourself.
 
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
is it possible to like disown or divorce ur parents at 17 1/2

yes but at this point its not reasonable, your out of their control legally in 6 months, but at that time they are within their full rights to boot your ass out of the house. right now if your charged, your charged as a juvenile, if you get amancipated your charged as an adult. You will want your lawyer to fight to keep it in the juvy system and push for a fast hearing / trial if thats what it takes, also seriously consider a plea bargin to that effect if its offered, it will most likely involve a drug rehab program or course and 6 months to a 1 year of probation depending on your state. why your parents decided now was a good time to do this, as it could have serious ramifications in the rest of your adult life, really gets me, but I'll agree that we probably don't have the full story.
 
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
oh and trust me I WANT to live on my own..but everytime they say they'll call the police if i step out the door

also again depending on the state, but most are this way, once you turn 16, you can leave without being considered a runaway, the cops won't do sh!t unless they report you as a missing person, if they do, go to the nearest police station, ID yourself and tell them your parents filed a false report. tell them that you moved out on your on recogncence, and tell them of your living arrangements and income status...they hate that false report kinda crap...
 
Originally posted by: SammySon
You have zero rights as a minor.

thats just not true, your rights are limited in some fasion, however, you do have the same rights as an adult defendant in criminal cases, the right to remain silent, the right to an attorney, ect...and the older you are the more rights you have.
 
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
Yes my parents are assholes...and please dont comment on steroids when u dont know anything about them....also they did NOT have a warrant..my parents just gave it to them like stupid peices of sh!t
Were they prescribed by a physician for a specif SHORT TERM reason?

NO? then you are a fvcking idiot.
 
plant a HUGE amount of crack in their room, store it in ziplock they've touched, wear rubber gloves throughout the transaction...that should screw um...
 
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