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HELP!!..WHAT ARE MY LEGAL RIGHTS HERE?!?!
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GrumpyMan
Diamond Member
A bud of mine I used to have used to hit the roids all the time. He and his wife went to Jamaica to vacation and while in the hotel room she made him angry at some comment she had made. Well he got so mad he threw her out the 5th floor window and of course cracked her head open and killed her. He's still in jail. Ruined his whole life. He was showing at competitions and starting to win in the heavy weight class at most of the events he was entering. He was huge and cut like a diamond.
Maybe your parents are tired of you overreacting to any little thing they say or do. Maybe they think you are going nuts and are going to kill someone and want to help you out while they can. Maybe they love you so much that they are willing to risk you going to jail just to get you off the roids.
Just be a man and move out if you feel that threatned by them or can't play by their rules. Pay your own bills for a change. Grow up and learn to take the consequences of your actions.
Maybe your parents are tired of you overreacting to any little thing they say or do. Maybe they think you are going nuts and are going to kill someone and want to help you out while they can. Maybe they love you so much that they are willing to risk you going to jail just to get you off the roids.
Just be a man and move out if you feel that threatned by them or can't play by their rules. Pay your own bills for a change. Grow up and learn to take the consequences of your actions.
Graphicd00d
Senior member
If they were being parents they should have confronted their kid and not have the police come clean up family situations. That's what a responsible parent would have done.
<sarcastic remark> Have a family member doing drugs? Call the police and we can take care of your problems!</sarcastic remark>
But how can you be so certain that is parents haven't tried countless times to turn his ass around? Maybe this is the first brush of his with steroids (and if you weren't using them, EnragedPC, why did you have them? Why did you claim to see a doctor and do two years worth of research? Your story doesn't add up!), but based on his allusions to getting a tattoo, it doesn't sound like he's a li'l cherub who just fcked up big one time.
Of course we can only get our information from him, and he is pretty clearly lying about some of his tale, so we'll never know the whole truth.
MrDingleDangle
Lifer
i like how people here skip certain posts, so i will post it again, a study done this year-
Measures of aggression and mood changes in male weightlifters with and without androgenic anabolic steroid use.
J Forensic Sci. 2003 May;48(3):646-51
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The subjective (BDHI) and objective (PSAP) assessments of aggression found that supranormal testosterone concentrations were associated with increased aggression. However, the PDQ-R results suggest that this finding was confounded by the personality disorder profile of the steroid users, because steroid users demonstrated Cluster B personality disorder traits for antisocial, borderline, and histrionic personality disorder.
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He posted links that document scientific studies proving his point. All you have done is bluster and put your head in the sand and claim the science is wrong and you are right. It's always the same when someone is confronted with scientific evidence that they refuse to believe. It's always a conspiricy.
Although the side effects mentioned are not necessarly common they DO exist and your claim that they are myths is patently false. I've taken legitimately presecribed steriods and I have read the drug information sheet handed to me by the pharmacist. All of the side effects mentioned DO occur with steriod use (and have been proven using a double blind medical study), their frequency and severity is determined by the amount of steriods used and the body chemistry of the person using them.
If you wish to prove otherwise why don't you link us to a respected medical source documenting how safe steriods are. I suggest you start with JAMA and find articles supporting your hypothesis.
From your own links
"Answer #6
At age 16 you should not be on steroids. It WILL stunt your growth. You should really wait until you are about 19 or 20.
But as far as the retards that answered previously. Answer #2: I have a BS degree in pharmacology and minored in sport nutrition. Your friend should have taken the quicker route and just shot himself for being an idiot. THIS IS FOR EVERYONE: steriods are not even as dangerous as most of the substances you take on an every day basis. We are a society of drug takers: coffee, cigarettes, alcohol, tylenol, aspirin, all these are drugs but we have become accustomed to taking them in certain doses. Try taking a hand full of aspirin and a 5th of bourbon and maybe a pack of smokes and see how fast the ambulance shows up at your door. But try taking 1000 mg of test. and a couple D-Bol tabs all together, and maybe you might smart off to cop who gives you a ticket for going 5 over the speed limit.
Back to answer #2. Your buddy had no business whatsoever using any kind of steroid, and you have no business criticizing anything you have never tried. He should have educated himself on the use and dosages before ever touching them. It's sustanon 250 he was taking, and three times a week means 750mg a week in addition to 15mg a day of d-bol tabs which is 105mg a week. If he had his head out of his A** long enough to read up on it he would have known that it's probably 3 times the dosage a beginner should have taken.
And that goes for you too in answer #4. Haven't you ever heard of a cycle? Go 12 weeks MAX. then get off for 12 weeks, then back on and so on. This ensures that your body has time to heal and bring your hormone levels back on line before you do another cycle.
As far as Answer #3, it is called oxymetholone and it is Anadrol 50. It is the strongest oral steroid made. DON'T exceed 1-3 tablets a day for any period longer than 4-6 weeks. And if you are under age (anything below 19) don't take it. Anadrol has numerous side effects and should only be taken by those who know what they are doing.
And as far as the little penis thing in answer #4, you know nothing. The only thing that shrinks is your balls not your penis. And it did it because you didn't take any clomid or HCG when you got off your cycle.
I hope I have made my point. Stupidity has killed more people than any steroid. Educate yourself first and find out what steriods do what, and the dosages you should take. Don't get impatient. It takes several weeks before you will start seeing results, and unless your diet is right you won't see any results anyway.
As far as 15-16 year olds juicing. DON'T. You are not ready, and your body is still changing. Stick to MET-RX and creatine and wait until you master that before you move up to the next level. (Wait until 19-20).
Answer #7
Thanks, to the person who wrote Response #6 for the dose of sanity. If any of you kids (anyone under 21) think you need steroids at your age should go see a shrink! I mean a head-shrinker, psychiatrist, therapist, whatever!
You don't need steroids. My body didn't fully mature until I was about 26. I didn't take steroids until I was in my late thirties, I had a 700+ pound squat, and a 54 inch chest. You have to realize that you have to fully develop your skeletal structure AND skeletal density before you can hang the meat on it.
Unfortunately, the young dudes that want to take steroids usually are the underachievers, or those who are "late bloomers" who feel that they have been dealt an unfair hand as far as their physique is concerned. But please, listen to me, if you work hard, and I mean hard....!!! you will get large and strong. Wait til you have peaked out, as I did, before you try anything other than vitamins.
I'm not going to disclose here on the internet who I am, but you will see me in the World's Strongest Man contest in the year 2000.
Answer #8
To #6, and #7, my hat's off. But I would like to emphasize one thing. Steroids that everyone sees on TV aren't the kind of stuff educated lifters use. Nobody breaks into their local veterinarians clinic to take home some crazy horse steroid. It doesn't happen. The steroids used are used in a serious procedure (cycles, stacks). Although they are used methodically, they are still powerful drugs that alter the human body. S--- happens sometimes.
The best thing to do for kids under twenty is a good diet. Carbs and add-ins till 3pm, and proteins until eight or nine. Make sure you eat about eight meals a day. If you get loggy eat more carbs. If you eat junk food during the weekends and no junk food during the week, your body will be fooled that it still has to burn all that junk food off during the week. This will rip you up, and give you the stuff you need to build your muscle. Have faith, and trust your body, it's the best machine ever built.
P.S. I'm eighteen, and have seen and done a lot in my gym.
Answer #9
I believe the answers given by #6, #7, and #8 are good answers and well backed by experience and education. They show that steroids can be effective and potentially less dangerous than the general public tends to believe. However, I would like to add that the use of steroids should really only be used if body building is your life. If competitions, shows, events, and being in the gym are your only worries, then go ahead, take steroids (but not until you're developed, such as age 21 or even older). If you are after a good body, strength, and and overall fitness, then there is no need for steroids; these things can be achieved through hard work and dedication, which will not only increase your physical fitness but your confidence and spirit as well. Work hard to earn what you desire, and if you are old enough to begin steroid use, be sure that your goal in life actually calls for their use."
There are plenty more stories and positive things in other links of yours. You didn't read it all liar.
"Answer #6
At age 16 you should not be on steroids. It WILL stunt your growth. You should really wait until you are about 19 or 20.
But as far as the retards that answered previously. Answer #2: I have a BS degree in pharmacology and minored in sport nutrition. Your friend should have taken the quicker route and just shot himself for being an idiot. THIS IS FOR EVERYONE: steriods are not even as dangerous as most of the substances you take on an every day basis. We are a society of drug takers: coffee, cigarettes, alcohol, tylenol, aspirin, all these are drugs but we have become accustomed to taking them in certain doses. Try taking a hand full of aspirin and a 5th of bourbon and maybe a pack of smokes and see how fast the ambulance shows up at your door. But try taking 1000 mg of test. and a couple D-Bol tabs all together, and maybe you might smart off to cop who gives you a ticket for going 5 over the speed limit.
Back to answer #2. Your buddy had no business whatsoever using any kind of steroid, and you have no business criticizing anything you have never tried. He should have educated himself on the use and dosages before ever touching them. It's sustanon 250 he was taking, and three times a week means 750mg a week in addition to 15mg a day of d-bol tabs which is 105mg a week. If he had his head out of his A** long enough to read up on it he would have known that it's probably 3 times the dosage a beginner should have taken.
And that goes for you too in answer #4. Haven't you ever heard of a cycle? Go 12 weeks MAX. then get off for 12 weeks, then back on and so on. This ensures that your body has time to heal and bring your hormone levels back on line before you do another cycle.
As far as Answer #3, it is called oxymetholone and it is Anadrol 50. It is the strongest oral steroid made. DON'T exceed 1-3 tablets a day for any period longer than 4-6 weeks. And if you are under age (anything below 19) don't take it. Anadrol has numerous side effects and should only be taken by those who know what they are doing.
And as far as the little penis thing in answer #4, you know nothing. The only thing that shrinks is your balls not your penis. And it did it because you didn't take any clomid or HCG when you got off your cycle.
I hope I have made my point. Stupidity has killed more people than any steroid. Educate yourself first and find out what steriods do what, and the dosages you should take. Don't get impatient. It takes several weeks before you will start seeing results, and unless your diet is right you won't see any results anyway.
As far as 15-16 year olds juicing. DON'T. You are not ready, and your body is still changing. Stick to MET-RX and creatine and wait until you master that before you move up to the next level. (Wait until 19-20).
Answer #7
Thanks, to the person who wrote Response #6 for the dose of sanity. If any of you kids (anyone under 21) think you need steroids at your age should go see a shrink! I mean a head-shrinker, psychiatrist, therapist, whatever!
You don't need steroids. My body didn't fully mature until I was about 26. I didn't take steroids until I was in my late thirties, I had a 700+ pound squat, and a 54 inch chest. You have to realize that you have to fully develop your skeletal structure AND skeletal density before you can hang the meat on it.
Unfortunately, the young dudes that want to take steroids usually are the underachievers, or those who are "late bloomers" who feel that they have been dealt an unfair hand as far as their physique is concerned. But please, listen to me, if you work hard, and I mean hard....!!! you will get large and strong. Wait til you have peaked out, as I did, before you try anything other than vitamins.
I'm not going to disclose here on the internet who I am, but you will see me in the World's Strongest Man contest in the year 2000.
Answer #8
To #6, and #7, my hat's off. But I would like to emphasize one thing. Steroids that everyone sees on TV aren't the kind of stuff educated lifters use. Nobody breaks into their local veterinarians clinic to take home some crazy horse steroid. It doesn't happen. The steroids used are used in a serious procedure (cycles, stacks). Although they are used methodically, they are still powerful drugs that alter the human body. S--- happens sometimes.
The best thing to do for kids under twenty is a good diet. Carbs and add-ins till 3pm, and proteins until eight or nine. Make sure you eat about eight meals a day. If you get loggy eat more carbs. If you eat junk food during the weekends and no junk food during the week, your body will be fooled that it still has to burn all that junk food off during the week. This will rip you up, and give you the stuff you need to build your muscle. Have faith, and trust your body, it's the best machine ever built.
P.S. I'm eighteen, and have seen and done a lot in my gym.
Answer #9
I believe the answers given by #6, #7, and #8 are good answers and well backed by experience and education. They show that steroids can be effective and potentially less dangerous than the general public tends to believe. However, I would like to add that the use of steroids should really only be used if body building is your life. If competitions, shows, events, and being in the gym are your only worries, then go ahead, take steroids (but not until you're developed, such as age 21 or even older). If you are after a good body, strength, and and overall fitness, then there is no need for steroids; these things can be achieved through hard work and dedication, which will not only increase your physical fitness but your confidence and spirit as well. Work hard to earn what you desire, and if you are old enough to begin steroid use, be sure that your goal in life actually calls for their use."
There are plenty more stories and positive things in other links of yours. You didn't read it all liar.
eh for anybody saying "think for yourself" in regards to steroids... i highly doubt that any of us have the scientific training to do so. asking someone without such training to "think for themselves" in regards to whether or not steroids are dangerous is like asking a blind man to drive.
Hossenfeffer
Diamond Member
Holy Decaf, Batman!
Seriously, chief, your best course of action is to get legal advice (not from an internet chat board) and come clean as best you can. Years from now, I'm willing to bet that you come to see where you and your parents both dropped the ball, how your choice to do the AS was "not the wisest", that you may have just been like the billions of other teenagers that rebel. Unless your parents are really messed up, they're trying to help you and, for whatever reason, felt this course of action was the best.
I agree with the folks that say we're getting an awfully one-sided view of things. I'd lay another bet down on this being far from the first conflict in the household.
kranky
Elite Member
If I had a shred of sympathy for you before, it's gone now. You started this thread because you were irate about your parents going through YOUR stuff, finding YOUR steroids, and giving YOUR PC to the cops. Now you want to say it's THEIR stuff, to save your own butt? It's not enough that you got caught, but you want to say that the stuff belonged to your parents?
dabuddha
Lifer
Not once did I claim that there weren't any positive points in those links. And I like how you got those "quotes" from the one link that has people's opinions/stories, not the numerous ones with scientific studies done by people one hundred times smarter than you are. Ignorant as usual. Keep it up kid and show everyone how foolish you truly are.
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