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HELP!!..WHAT ARE MY LEGAL RIGHTS HERE?!?!

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I do think this kid is a moron, and the parents certainly have every right to search his room, and frankly they don't need a reason. Its their house. What I'd like to know is why they would turn him in to the cops...unless he's a problem child that they are sick of dealing with. Also, I don't quite understand why they gave the cops his computer. Or if they hate the kid enough to turn him in to the cops, why they would say they won't let him leave.
 
Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
my parents fingerprints will also be all over that box...and nobody has solid proof that i ever did AS...as the Box and the computer were in THERE house does it not make it THERE property...also making it THERE problem...cant I use that kind of defense tommorow?

If I had a shred of sympathy for you before, it's gone now. You started this thread because you were irate about your parents going through YOUR stuff, finding YOUR steroids, and giving YOUR PC to the cops. Now you want to say it's THEIR stuff, to save your own butt? It's not enough that you got caught, but you want to say that the stuff belonged to your parents?

He should have taken responsibility initially. He chose to break the law and he got busted. I don't agree with what his parents did, but that is tough sh!t. Looks like he needs to adjust his attitude immediately and start taking responsibility for his actions. Blaming anything on his parents makes me lose all sympathy as well.
 
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
From your own links


There are plenty more stories and positive things in other links of yours. You didn't read it all liar.

Not once did I claim that there weren't any positive points in those links. And I like how you got those "quotes" from the one link that has people's opinions/stories, not the numerous ones with scientific studies done by people one hundred times smarter than you are. Ignorant as usual. Keep it up kid and show everyone how foolish you truly are.

You omitted them and not me. You said all the links proved your point. They don't. BTW, please quit calling me a kid because I seriously doubt your balls have even dropped yet. In fact, I bet you like to act "old" online just to add validity to your arguments. Save it for someone else dick.
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
my parents fingerprints will also be all over that box...and nobody has solid proof that i ever did AS...as the Box and the computer were in THERE house does it not make it THERE property...also making it THERE problem...cant I use that kind of defense tommorow?

If I had a shred of sympathy for you before, it's gone now. You started this thread because you were irate about your parents going through YOUR stuff, finding YOUR steroids, and giving YOUR PC to the cops. Now you want to say it's THEIR stuff, to save your own butt? It's not enough that you got caught, but you want to say that the stuff belonged to your parents?

He should have taken responsibility initially. He chose to break the law and he got busted. I don't agree with what his parents did, but that is tough sh!t. Looks like he needs to adjust his attitude immediately and start taking responsibility for his actions. Blaming anything on his parents makes me lose all sympathy as well.

Though I don't agree with you on his parent's actions, I do agree with you on his need to adjust his attitude and lack of responsibility.
 
Originally posted by: gopunk
i'm going to take a great big leap of logic and say that they have given up on trying to solve everything through a nice chat...
That may be true. And I will admit that EnragedPC's attitude and behavior sucks. However, I can't approve of how the parents have reacted either - it's not like his rebellious behavior is somehow new or unusual in a teenager. And the ramifications of legal intervention in this matter are bound to be much more serious than the steroid use would have been.

And this other argument... I once heard about someone who was cold clean and sober who killed someone else!! :Q No one should ever be allowed to be clean and sober!!
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Drugs don't kill people - people kill people.

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: gopunk
eh for anybody saying "think for yourself" in regards to steroids... i highly doubt that any of us have the scientific training to do so. asking someone without such training to "think for themselves" in regards to whether or not steroids are dangerous is like asking a blind man to drive.

dabuddha has plenty. Haven't you seen how he can use google? Instant expert.

Yes and you're the expert of spouting off nonsense based on no scientific facts 🙂

Ever heard or selective quoting? People make marijuana appear to be a health threat as well in "scientific studies." You call ME close minded when it is quite the opposite.
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
From your own links


There are plenty more stories and positive things in other links of yours. You didn't read it all liar.

Not once did I claim that there weren't any positive points in those links. And I like how you got those "quotes" from the one link that has people's opinions/stories, not the numerous ones with scientific studies done by people one hundred times smarter than you are. Ignorant as usual. Keep it up kid and show everyone how foolish you truly are.

You omitted them and not me. You said all the links proved your point. They don't. BTW, please quit calling me a kid because I seriously doubt your balls have even dropped yet. In fact, I bet you like to act "old" online just to add validity to your arguments. Save it for someone else dick.

Wrong again as usual kid. I omitted nothing. I posted the entire link for everyone (especially uninformed people like you) to read. And I'm still waiting for you to post a scientific article supporting your theories like rahvin requested.
 
Enraged, I hope your grammar is better when you are in court, because frankly you sound like a fool, and you will not win very many court cases if you can't even form a sentence correctly.

Oh, and if you want to leave home, technically your parents ARE allowed to stop you, unless you get a court order disowning yourself.
 
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
hey if i have to go down they are goin with me...I dont want to live in this house but I get threatened with police action everytime i try to leave...its MY life I should get to make my own choices...i didnt hurt anybody else or even myself...

My sympathy level just dropped from not caring, to hoping you go down. Take some responsibility bud. This is real life and you have to man up. If you are man enough to use and order steroids you should be man enough to take responsibility. Stop being a pussy and act like a 17 year old, and not some three year old getting nursed.
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
my parents fingerprints will also be all over that box...and nobody has solid proof that i ever did AS...as the Box and the computer were in THERE house does it not make it THERE property...also making it THERE problem...cant I use that kind of defense tommorow?

If I had a shred of sympathy for you before, it's gone now. You started this thread because you were irate about your parents going through YOUR stuff, finding YOUR steroids, and giving YOUR PC to the cops. Now you want to say it's THEIR stuff, to save your own butt? It's not enough that you got caught, but you want to say that the stuff belonged to your parents?

He should have taken responsibility initially. He chose to break the law and he got busted. I don't agree with what his parents did, but that is tough sh!t. Looks like he needs to adjust his attitude immediately and start taking responsibility for his actions. Blaming anything on his parents makes me lose all sympathy as well.

Why? He's a product of their parenting. For him to turn out like that they have obviously dropped the ball several times along the way.
 
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: waggy
I dont know why you guys are even trying.

Millennium and ragepc are not going to understand.

Yeah I know. I've noticed how close minded Millennium can be and EnragedPC seems to be just as stupid. It saddens me that he'd try to do this to his parents. Though we do not know the whole story as it is obvious he's leaving quite a bit out.

I am not close-minded. I don't take links or medical studies at face value. Only the ignorant and stupid ignore the underlying facts.
 
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
hey if i have to go down they are goin with me...I dont want to live in this house but I get threatened with police action everytime i try to leave...its MY life I should get to make my own choices...i didnt hurt anybody else or even myself...

by law, you do not get to make your own choices until you are 18, and even then you still can't do somethings (like drink, for example). you can either accept this, regardless of whether it is right or wrong, and move on to build a fruitful life, or you can spend all your time breaking the law and rebelling because you *should* be allowed to do this or that.
 
Originally posted by: bobcpg
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
...and please dont comment on steroids when u dont know anything about them....


they have to be illeagal for some reason.

Marijuana is illegal, so are automatic weapons. Neither should be. Your logic is flawed.
 
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
Roid Rage is a MYTH....an asshole on steroids is still going to be an asshole...just like an asshole who gets drunk is going to be an asshole....ROID RAGE IS A MYTH...ask any user and he will tell u its a myth....

I used to work with two body builders who have used steroids, and they've told me that it isn't a myth. I'm sorry that you have convinced yourself that there aren't any negative side effects, but your wrong. One of them got to big, so quick, that his body is now covered in stretch marks, and he has never refuted the claims of these studies.
 
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
my parents fingerprints will also be all over that box...and nobody has solid proof that i ever did AS...as the Box and the computer were in THERE house does it not make it THERE property...also making it THERE problem...cant I use that kind of defense tommorow?

If I had a shred of sympathy for you before, it's gone now. You started this thread because you were irate about your parents going through YOUR stuff, finding YOUR steroids, and giving YOUR PC to the cops. Now you want to say it's THEIR stuff, to save your own butt? It's not enough that you got caught, but you want to say that the stuff belonged to your parents?

He should have taken responsibility initially. He chose to break the law and he got busted. I don't agree with what his parents did, but that is tough sh!t. Looks like he needs to adjust his attitude immediately and start taking responsibility for his actions. Blaming anything on his parents makes me lose all sympathy as well.

Why? He's a product of their parenting. For him to turn out like that they have obviously dropped the ball several times along the way.

Gonad- I am not talking about his parent's turning him in or their parenting. I am talking about where he says he wants to FRAME them with his AS!
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: waggy
I dont know why you guys are even trying.

Millennium and ragepc are not going to understand.

Yeah I know. I've noticed how close minded Millennium can be and EnragedPC seems to be just as stupid. It saddens me that he'd try to do this to his parents. Though we do not know the whole story as it is obvious he's leaving quite a bit out.

I am not close-minded. I don't take links or medical studies at face value. Only the ignorant and stupid ignore the underlying facts.

I think everyone's question is "Where do your 'underlying facts' come from?"
 
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
Roid Rage is a MYTH....an asshole on steroids is still going to be an asshole...just like an asshole who gets drunk is going to be an asshole....ROID RAGE IS A MYTH...ask any user and he will tell u its a myth....

I used to work with two body builders who have used steroids, and they've told me that it isn't a myth. I'm sorry that you have convinced yourself that there aren't any negative side effects, but your wrong. One of them got to big, so quick, that his body is now covered in stretch marks, and he has never refuted the claims of these studies.
Of course any user will tell your "Roid Rage" is a myth. It is called denial.

 
Enraged are you a single child?

Also are you sure you haven't had a continuing problem with your parents and this isn't like an out of the blue thing but they've had problems disciplining you in the past and believe that they are no longer capable of it so they had to get police involved? Like I said earlier I wouldn't turn an otherwise good kid in for roids but if I felt out of control and my son was, in general, going the wrong way in life and I'd tried all else maybe some "tough love" is the last resort.

For what it's worth - and I think it would be a TERRIBLE idea - I thought that once a person became 16 they could legally leave the house. At least I think I learned that on Degrassi High (Canadian show). Moving out before finishing your education all on your own without a great job, etc. is a very very difficult thing to do and as much angst as you have between your parents now you should realize that most of us have had it at some point and I have found that most people sometime during their 20's become on much better terms with their parents as they grow up and start to appreciate why their parents did or do what they did or do.
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: bobcpg
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
...and please dont comment on steroids when u dont know anything about them....


they have to be illeagal for some reason.

Marijuana is illegal, so are automatic weapons. Neither should be. Your logic is flawed.

no, he said that there is some reason, which there are in both of those cases. doesn't mean that the reasons for illegality outweigh the reasons against.
 
It sounds to me like you're nowhere near READY to live on your own. Trust me on this one, once you get out on your own you'll be wishing you had a nice place to live where you didn't have to bust your ass 40+ hrs a week so at the end of the pay period you can give up over 80% of your income just to cover your bills and basic needs.

Ok I never had a problem working hard to have my own life. I would rather work two jobs and have my own place and rules then live at home and have to put up with overbearing parents (if his are in this case we do not know). But I have lived with manipulative, overbearing parents and it's not fun either.

If you feel you are really being wronged by your parents (and not just bitching), do this:


1) find a good job, work at it for 2 months, save as much as you can. Open your own bank account and tell NOONE.

2) Locate a good apartment and hopefully a roommate. Splitting bills is easier when u first start. Remember to live as far below your means as you can without putting yourself in jeopardy.

3) Move out when your parents aren't around. Don't give them your new number or address. Continue doing the same thing for a year, then arrange a meeting with your parents (like a lunch).

4) Show your parents how you have been responsible and you don't need their help. Thank them for the work they did to get you where you are (you owe them this much), but keep them at a distance. Don't give out your contact information, just tell them you will call them from time to time that you are doing ok. All parents worry, even the overbearing ones. They have earned that right at least.

5) Some day 5-10 years from now when you have established your own career, family, and life and have forgiven them,, go back to your parents and discuss your childhood. You may find common ground and friendship but you need time to let the wounds heal first.


That's your best plan.
 
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
From your own links


There are plenty more stories and positive things in other links of yours. You didn't read it all liar.

Not once did I claim that there weren't any positive points in those links. And I like how you got those "quotes" from the one link that has people's opinions/stories, not the numerous ones with scientific studies done by people one hundred times smarter than you are. Ignorant as usual. Keep it up kid and show everyone how foolish you truly are.

You omitted them and not me. You said all the links proved your point. They don't. BTW, please quit calling me a kid because I seriously doubt your balls have even dropped yet. In fact, I bet you like to act "old" online just to add validity to your arguments. Save it for someone else dick.

Wrong again as usual kid. I omitted nothing. I posted the entire link for everyone (especially uninformed people like you) to read. And I'm still waiting for you to post a scientific article supporting your theories like rahvin requested.

Actually you are wrong again as usual dick. You omitted anything that didn't support your position. I am way more informed than you are. I am still waiting for you to actually read the stuff yourself and visit some forums. Quit being a google doctor and read books about the subject as well.

Anytime you call me a "kid" is going to make me call you a dick. Every time. Any post you do it you will get "dick" in response.
 
Originally posted by: Legendary
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: waggy
I dont know why you guys are even trying.

Millennium and ragepc are not going to understand.

Yeah I know. I've noticed how close minded Millennium can be and EnragedPC seems to be just as stupid. It saddens me that he'd try to do this to his parents. Though we do not know the whole story as it is obvious he's leaving quite a bit out.

I am not close-minded. I don't take links or medical studies at face value. Only the ignorant and stupid ignore the underlying facts.

I think everyone's question is "Where do your 'underlying facts' come from?"

From reading people's experiences and not selective studies.
 
Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: EnragedPC
Roid Rage is a MYTH....an asshole on steroids is still going to be an asshole...just like an asshole who gets drunk is going to be an asshole....ROID RAGE IS A MYTH...ask any user and he will tell u its a myth....

I used to work with two body builders who have used steroids, and they've told me that it isn't a myth. I'm sorry that you have convinced yourself that there aren't any negative side effects, but your wrong. One of them got to big, so quick, that his body is now covered in stretch marks, and he has never refuted the claims of these studies.
Of course any user will tell your "Roid Rage" is a myth. It is called denial.

Don't became one of the brainwashed masses minendo.
 
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