Help me rip an AUDIO CD PLEASE!

[MatthewF01]

OK heres the deal.

I have a TDK VeloCD 8/4/32, which will supposedly rip audio at 20x. I also have a SB Audigy MP3+ which supposedly will encode mp3's in real-time at 9x.

Now, Ive tried using MusicMatch, and Ive tried using Creative MediaSource. MediaSource adds the songs on a cd into queue, but just sits there and does nothing.

MusicMatch creates MP3 files, but only at 1x, and they are just silence for the time duration of the track. Im guessing that its switching to the wrong input to record from. Ive tried changing the input in the Audigy Mixer settings, but MM just switches back to the incorrect one.



Is there any way to make this simpler to do, AND take advantage of the hardware I have?

Id really appreciate any help you guys can offer me here..

By the way, im using modified Audigy 2 drivers on my A1. I believe they were the first set released for A2. I forgot how to mod them, in order to update them to newer A2 drivers so...

 

[DaveSimmons]

Just use CDex or EAC + LAME (search "mp3" or "ripper" for 10,000 threads on this). If your CPU is at least 800 MHz then software encoding will be faster, and LAME is a better encoder than some weird Creative Labs encoder anyway.

 

[MatthewF01]

thanks man, i appreciate it.


sorry for not searching!


if i have any more issues, ill be sure to post though

 

[DaveSimmons]

sorry for not searching!

You had a good reason not to search (unlike 9,999 of the others ) since you thought the Creative "hardware assisted" encoding was worth using. No way to learn that it isn't until you ask someone

 

[MatthewF01]

yea i guess my TbredA 1800+ @ 1.9Ghz (400mhz bus) with corsair 3200 isnt worth wasting time on a crappy little hardware encode...

 

[MatthewF01]

OK so i set up EAC with LAME.

When I try to do a run, i get an error message saying EAC couldnt detect a matching read command for this cd drive.
I should activate the autodetection of the read command in drive options dialog.



I have it set on autodetection. Even when i let it detect the setting, it PUTS IT ON Autodetection...


Im using my TDK 8/4/32 for this..


anyone?

thanks!

 

[MatthewF01]

bah, ive tried everything, and still cant figure out why it wont work!

 

[DaveSimmons]

I think someone in the Hydrogen Audio forums suggested deleting the drive from Windows device manager, unhooking the cable from the drive, restarting Windows so it boots with the drive gone, then re-attaching the drive and letting Windows set it up again.

[ ed ] do the attaching and detaching with the computer off and unplugged of course!

 

[Skibby9]

try dBpowerAMP converter, and use the ogg vorbis encoder. Don't waste your time with mp3, unless you are encoding for a portable mp3 player. Ogg sounds way better than mp3!

 

[MatthewF01]

Originally posted by: Skibby9
try dBpowerAMP converter, and use the ogg vorbis encoder. Don't waste your time with mp3, unless you are encoding for a portable mp3 player. Ogg sounds way better than mp3!

Actually, i want to encode to mp3 cuz i just got a 256MB SD storage card for my iPaq 3955, and wanna listen to some mp3s on it, at least until i put a damn cd player in my car...



And is letting Windows reinstall the drive going to solve that problem?

 

[HendrixFan]

Try an older version of EAC. I know the newest version wouldnt work with my drive, but the older 0.9p10 worked for me.

 

[MatthewF01]

blast. i hoped that the older version would work, but still no joy.

thats rather disappointing.

 

[Skibby9]

Try CDex. -- it lets me rip extremely quickly with my lite-on 40x12x48 and my pioneer 16x dvd-rom (slot loader) drives. No configuration required, except make up an email address for remote cddb access.

There may be decoding/playback software available at xiph.org that allows you to play ogg files on your ipaq. I know the directshow plugin that makes windows media player play ogg files works...

But if you can use winamp on your ipaq that would be even better, as winamp accepts oggs natively.

I can tell you this, oggs encoded at 128kbps sound at least as good as mp3s at 256kbps. I am really picky about my music, and trust me, ogg is the way to go. That is, until I move back to the US and can get good deals on hard drives. Then it will be FLAC for me!

 

[DaveSimmons]

That is, until I move back to the US and can get good deals on hard drives. Then it will be FLAC for me!

That's what I've just started doing, and it sounds sweet through both my Sennheiser headphones and Polk speakers -- no more hard-to-pin-down but still annoying smearing of the sound or weird phase-shifting artifacts. At 300 MB per CD it's not quite practical for an ipaq though

 

[MatthewF01]

ok CDex seems to work fine, but i STILL am having that issue where the mp3 file generated is just entirely silence for the duration of the song.


Do i need to fix a mixer setting for the Audigy?

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: MatthewF01
ok CDex seems to work fine, but i STILL am having that issue where the mp3 file generated is just entirely silence for the duration of the song.


Do i need to fix a mixer setting for the Audigy?

With all these programs are you telling them to extract "through the soundcard" or using analog instead of using Digital Audio Extraction? If so, don't!

Did any of them complain about "ASPI layer not found"? If so you need to download it from Adaptec (the Anandtec audio extraction FAQ covers this).

 

[bob332]

Originally posted by: Skibby9
try dBpowerAMP converter, and use the ogg vorbis encoder. Don't waste your time with mp3, unless you are encoding for a portable mp3 player. Ogg sounds way better than mp3!

aac sounds pretty damn good to me.

 

[bob332]

audiograbber with the lame dll works excellent. depending on the cd, you might not hit 20x, although you should, but with your hardware you should be able to encode a lot faster than 9x. F the creative stuff.

 

[Skibby9]

another trick is to use CDex (linked above) to rip a cd to .wav, and then use your favorite encoder (oggdropper is pretty cool, set it to delete your input file) to convert. Ripping to .wav should go as fast as your cdrom will allow.

It is just a (small) pain to take the extra steps, but it sounds like you may want to give this a try.

 

[MatthewF01]

Originally posted by: Skibby9
another trick is to use CDex (linked above) to rip a cd to .wav, and then use your favorite encoder (oggdropper is pretty cool, set it to delete your input file) to convert. Ripping to .wav should go as fast as your cdrom will allow.

It is just a (small) pain to take the extra steps, but it sounds like you may want to give this a try.

i actually thought about doing that. so i tried it, ripped to .wav's, and tried to first listen to the wavs, but AGAIN they were just complete silence. One question though, why doesnt the read LED go on, on the cd-drive when ripping? Could that be part of my problem?

I used mkw Compression Tool to generate it to mp3 and still silence, sooo... something is wrong in the ripping process.

 

[Skibby9]

Hmmm.. interesting... can you play normal audio cds thru windows media player?

 

[MatthewF01]

yup no problems there. all programs can play cd's fine.

if you're familiar with the Creative Mixer, could it be a setting there? I think ive tried everything, but I could be overlooking something

 

[Skibby9]

Does it burn cds correctly?

I wonder if there is some sort of software conflict... I once had CDex and Nero and CloneCD running at the same time, and one of those apps complained about an ASPI issue... I was reluctant to download and install the Adaptec aspi.exe as that hosed my dvd playback last time. Just closing some apps made the problem go away....

As for me, I don't run any of the Creative crap. I just download the driver (which should definitely not be 25 Mb) for my SB Live, and select the minimal installation.

If you already tried the disconnect, boot, shut down, reconnect, boot, and still have the problem, try a different IDE cable. Maybe yours has a break somewhere.

 

[MatthewF01]

burns cds fine too. It seems fine everywhere else. I tried to rip one track using my other drive, the DVD rom, and same problem. The read LED didnt go on with that one either.

No programs said anything about this ASPI so i dont think it could be a problem...

i guess im gonna have to try this disconnect thingie, ugh..

 

[Pauli]

Regarding the "silent" rips you have been getting: I believe you need to enable "Digital CD Playback" in your Device Manager properties for your burner. I don't know exactly where this option can be found in WinXP, but in Win2K, it's on the Properties dialog of your CD reader device from Device Manager. Enable it, reboot, and give it another go with CDex.