help finishing off my build

[builder-inator]

Alright thanks!! I'm going with the FX-4170/HD7790. Will you also be able to teach me how to build it once I order the parts

 

[Termie]

Alright thanks!! I'm going with the FX-4170/HD7790. Will you also be able to teach me how to build it once I order the parts

Oh, wow, that's a tall order! I might be able to help!

 

[builder-inator]

Thanks a load, I've been to so many forums and you in this forum were the only one the actually helped me finish my search

 

[builder-inator]

Right so my brother told me that I should at least have 8GB RAM

 

[Termie]

Buy one stick, save up for a second one later on. You won't notice that missing 4GB in any games. If you get heavily into recording while gaming, you may find a need for it, but that can come later on. Right now, you're up against your budget wall, so I'd stick with the current setup. Sacrificing anything else for RAM would be a mistake.

 

[builder-inator]

He says that I'll really need it so I'm thinking I'll go down one in graphics

 

[birthdaymonkey]

He says that I'll really need it so I'm thinking I'll go down one in graphics

He is mistaken.

Plus you can easily add another 4GB down the road if necessary, but you'll be stuck with whatever video card you pick unless you want to sell it.

 

[builder-inator]

Lol now I really don't know what to do, he says that there's no way he'll let me get 4GB then update. Maybe it's because he wants to do video editing, rendering and recording

 

[Torn Mind]

I suspect it has to do with Crysis 3's "hi-performance" requirements. http://www.ign.com/wikis/crysis-3/System_Requirements

But you don't have the recommended GPU either.

 

[birthdaymonkey]

Lol now I really don't know what to do, he says that there's no way he'll let me get 4GB then update. Maybe it's because he wants to do video editing, rendering and recording

You're really asking too much of a budget machine. It's hard to make something that can game and encode video competently on a strict budget. You're going to have to make some compromises.

 

[builder-inator]

You're really asking too much of a budget machine. It's hard to make something that can game and encode video competently on a strict budget. You're going to have to make some compromises.

But even with 4GB, can this build not do the video work?

 

[mfenn]

But even with 4GB, can this build not do the video work?

It can still do it, just more slowly.

 

[builder-inator]

OK know what, I'm somehow going to arrange the extra cash and get the 8GB without changing anything

 

[mfenn]

OK know what, I'm somehow going to arrange the extra cash and get the 8GB without changing anything

Extort it from your brother since he's so keen on having 8GB. :twisted:

 

[builder-inator]

I was snooping around through other forums and asked the same initial question, and this is what they said, " Besides, that power supply is highly doubtful it will give the power you need. Why? Well that video card alone needs a minimum of a 450 Watt power supply as per manufacture's specs. Second it is PCI-e 3.0 card and your motherboard is limited to 2.0. Third, it may have 3 gigs of DDR5 but it only has a 128-bit interface. A 2 gig card with a 256-bit interface 2.0 will be considerably cheaper and not be a waste of money." sorry but anyone would look for other opinions

 

[builder-inator]

Now I am really confused by what they said so can anyone here help with this? Yes I've asked them too but I prefer this forum. Just sayin'

 

[mfenn]

Lol he recommends many things but doesn't pay for anything. I was snooping around through other forums and asked the same initial question, and this is what they said,

Short answer, the person(s) who gave you advice on the other forum are misinformed. Long answer to follow:

" Besides, that power supply is highly doubtful it will give the power you need. Why? Well that video card alone needs a minimum of a 450 Watt power supply as per manufacture's specs.

GPU manufacturers have to grossly inflate their PSU power recommendations in order to account for people who have very crappy power supplies that can output their rated wattage. The CX430 does not fall into that category. Your true power draw with the 7790 would be less than 250W.

Second it is PCI-e 3.0 card and your motherboard is limited to 2.0.

Does not matter at all for a single 7790. Even a high-end card like the 7970 barely touches the bandwidth offered by PCIe 3.0.

Third, it may have 3 gigs of DDR5 but it only has a 128-bit interface. A 2 gig card with a 256-bit interface 2.0 will be considerably cheaper and not be a waste of money."

Not sure where the other poster got the idea that the 7790 is a 3GB card. It's a 2GB card. Anyway, comparing a small sub feature like memory bus width is silly. What matters is which card gets the most actual game performance for your money.

If you can get a 7850 within your budget, without completely compromising the rest of your machine, then that's great, but I doubt it will happen.

 

[builder-inator]

Oh man thanks a load for clearing it up! So my build is OK and will last me at least 3 years?

CPU: AMD FX 4170 Bulldozer Series CPU - 4.2GHz Quad(4) Core, AM3+ Socket,12MB, HyperTran - R1476

Motherboard: MSI AMD 970A-G46 970 Chipset - R1025

Memory: G.Skill F3-14900CL10S-8GBXL RipjawsX 1x8GB DDR3-1866 MHz Desktop Memory - R872

Video Card: PowerColor AX7770 1GBD5-PP2DH Radeon HD7770 - R1379

Power Supply: Corsair Builder Series CX430 V2 430W Power Supply - 80PLUS Certified - R513

I was thinking I downgrade the Ram to 1333 but I can't find anything

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Oh man thanks a load for clearing it up! So my build is OK and will last me at least 3 years?

CPU: AMD FX 4170 Bulldozer Series CPU - 4.2GHz Quad(4) Core, AM3+ Socket,12MB, HyperTran - R1476

Motherboard: MSI AMD 970A-G46 970 Chipset - R1025

Memory: G.Skill F3-14900CL10S-8GBXL RipjawsX 1x8GB DDR3-1866 MHz Desktop Memory - R872

Video Card: PowerColor AX7770 1GBD5-PP2DH Radeon HD7770 - R1379

Power Supply: Corsair Builder Series CX430 V2 430W Power Supply - 80PLUS Certified - R513

I was thinking I downgrade the Ram to 1333 but I can't find anything

Downgrade to 1333mhz or 1600mhz. the 1866 isnt worth the cost.

 

[builder-inator]

I did as you said, I couldn't find a 1333 so I got a 1600.
G.Skill F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL (1x 8GB) DDR3-1600MHz 1.5V CL9 Ripjaws Desktop Memory

 

[mfenn]

I did as you said, I couldn't find a 1333 so I got a 1600.
G.Skill F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL (1x 8GB) DDR3-1600MHz 1.5V CL9 Ripjaws Desktop Memory

See if you can get a 2x4GB kit for the same price. That'll let you run dual-channel which increases your performance a bit. Your mobo has 4 DIMM slots, so getting two modules now won't lock you out of upgrades either.

 

[builder-inator]

I'm still looking for one. But my brother says I should wait for DDR4

 

[Termie]

I'm still looking for one. But my brother says I should wait for DDR4

OK, now he's just giving you bad advice. Even if DDR4 were anywhere close to coming to market, it wouldn't work in today's systems. Furthermore, I still contend that his requirement that you get 8GB is off-base.

I'd stick with the advice you've heard hear already.

 

[builder-inator]

Alright thanks. I can't find 2x4GB because it becomes too expensive and I have tried looking for 1x4GB then buying another but it's still too expensive. So I guess the 1x8GB will be fine?

Now to clarify again:

CPU: AMD FX 4170 Bulldozer Series CPU - 4.2GHz Quad(4) Core, AM3+ Socket,12MB, HyperTran

Motherboard: MSI AMD 970A-G46 970 Chipset

Memory: G.Skill F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL (1x 8GB) DDR3-1600MHz 1.5V CL9 Ripjaws Desktop Memory

Video Card: PowerColor AX7770 1GBD5-PP2DH Radeon HD7770

Power Supply: Corsair Builder Series CX430 V2 430W Power Supply - 80PLUS Certified

 

[Termie]

All good but you wanted the 7790 instead of the 7770 for more gaming performance.