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Heath Ledger found dead in his apartment

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Originally posted by: pyonir
First Brad Renfro...now Heath...decent young actors. 🙁
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not sure i see renfro being anywhere near Ledgers class. Heath was a first class actor. he wasn't just a good young actor, he was an established pro.

 
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: pyonir
First Brad Renfro...now Heath...decent young actors. 🙁
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not sure i see renfro being anywhere near Ledgers class. Heath was a first class actor. he wasn't just a good young actor, he was an established pro.
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Ok. Good for you.
 
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Not trying to be a jerk, but I wonder if playing the Joker like, messed him up somehow? The Wikipedia article on the movie mentioned that he basically locked himself in a hotel room for a month trying to "get into" the character, he stopped being able to sleep for more than an hour at a time, etc... I mean, it's possible he was drug addled and crazy before doing that, but I can't imagine it helped.
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most of his roles were of characters that were "trouble". he liked the bad guy role, the priest who goes beyond, very interesteing roles, but also somewhat obsessive roles.

i think the roles he played reflected a little of who he was.

i liked almost every movie he was in. from Knights tale, to Casanove, The brothers grimm, lods of dogtown, 10 Things i hate about you (i really like julia stiles, not even sure why) etc.


good actor, interesting characters.

RIP.
 
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
It's pretty tough to overdose on pills. And that I DO know what I'm talking about there, from a friend who's an ER doctor. You can't really do it on accident.

Zinfamous, I'll agree that depression is misunderstood, but automatically claiming that everyone who kills themselves is brutally depressed and unable to pull themselves out of it is also a bit short-sighted. Some people are merely weak and pathetic, and it's the easy way out. We don't know which was the case here.
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Oh, I agree. I just think people are jumping to quick conclusions on this one. Based on his recent history, there is a strong possibility for depression. Perhaps severe. I'm intrigued by your suggestion that his prep for the Dark Night may have pushed him over the edge. Even non-actors are capable of convincing themselves of a personal reality that doesn't exist. If Ledger prepped as intensely as suggested on top of some recent personal trauma, then that is a bit worrisome. (if indeed he suffered form clinical depression)

I also hope the police bring that Olsen chick in for questioning...I never trusted either of those sisters... 😉
 
Wow so much gossip, rumors and speculation here (as well as some blatant falsehoods) and people are judging him on that already. Shame on you ATOT.
 
This will add about 50 million to Batman's BO. I just hope all the scenes with the Joker were complete!

Best wishes for his family
 
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
It's pretty tough to overdose on pills. And that I DO know what I'm talking about there, from a friend who's an ER doctor. You can't really do it on accident.

Zinfamous, I'll agree that depression is misunderstood, but automatically claiming that everyone who kills themselves is brutally depressed and unable to pull themselves out of it is also a bit short-sighted. Some people are merely weak and pathetic, and it's the easy way out. We don't know which was the case here.
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:roll:
 
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Ultimately sad if the death was accidental.
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that would be extremely tragic. Hope they release more info about the OD, if that's what it even was. Without a coroners report, we are really clueless. Here's to, for his sake, that he was getting ready to take some sleeping pills to fall asleep, and right then had a heart attack and the pill bottle fell? Very plausible in all actuality. All shucks, now I'm just in denial. lol He was a great actor but I guess they too are simply humans and deal with the same brain chemical malfunctions as the rest of population.

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
It's pretty tough to overdose on pills. And that I DO know what I'm talking about there, from a friend who's an ER doctor. You can't really do it on accident.

Zinfamous, I'll agree that depression is misunderstood, but automatically claiming that everyone who kills themselves is brutally depressed and unable to pull themselves out of it is also a bit short-sighted. Some people are merely weak and pathetic, and it's the easy way out. We don't know which was the case here.
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here's the thing though, I wanna know what OTC sleep med. Unisom? You'd have to down a bulk container if your ledger's size to kill ya. Not some general target shelf bottle of Unisom. Besides, what's in unisom and a couple other OTC sleep meds is actually an antihistamine that doubles as useful agent in helping wind down and fall asleep at night.
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Ultimately sad if the death was accidental.
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that would be extremely tragic. Hope they release more info about the OD, if that's what it even was. Without a coroners report, we are really clueless. Here's to, for his sake, that he was getting ready to take some sleeping pills to fall asleep, and right then had a heart attack and the pill bottle fell? Very plausible in all actuality. All shucks, now I'm just in denial. lol He was a great actor but I guess they too are simply humans and deal with the same brain chemical malfunctions as the rest of population.

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
It's pretty tough to overdose on pills. And that I DO know what I'm talking about there, from a friend who's an ER doctor. You can't really do it on accident.

Zinfamous, I'll agree that depression is misunderstood, but automatically claiming that everyone who kills themselves is brutally depressed and unable to pull themselves out of it is also a bit short-sighted. Some people are merely weak and pathetic, and it's the easy way out. We don't know which was the case here.
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here's the thing though, I wanna know what OTC sleep med. Unisom? You'd have to down a bulk container if your ledger's size to kill ya. Not some general target shelf bottle of Unisom. Besides, what's in unisom and a couple other OTC sleep meds is actually an antihistamine that doubles as useful agent in helping wind down and fall asleep at night.
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It doesn't matter what kind they are, though, the problem is that you'll puke up the pills if you ingest enough to kill yourself all at once. It's not a physical amount of pills, it's the potency of them. Your body somehow "knows" (don't ask me how) that something's no good in there and you puke it up. You have to take some pills, then an hour later or so take some more. Otherwise, again, you just puke 'em up and probably don't die from it.


Such a measured, well-reasoned response Pontifex!! Well done!
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Ultimately sad if the death was accidental.
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that would be extremely tragic. Hope they release more info about the OD, if that's what it even was. Without a coroners report, we are really clueless. Here's to, for his sake, that he was getting ready to take some sleeping pills to fall asleep, and right then had a heart attack and the pill bottle fell? Very plausible in all actuality. All shucks, now I'm just in denial. lol He was a great actor but I guess they too are simply humans and deal with the same brain chemical malfunctions as the rest of population.

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
It's pretty tough to overdose on pills. And that I DO know what I'm talking about there, from a friend who's an ER doctor. You can't really do it on accident.

Zinfamous, I'll agree that depression is misunderstood, but automatically claiming that everyone who kills themselves is brutally depressed and unable to pull themselves out of it is also a bit short-sighted. Some people are merely weak and pathetic, and it's the easy way out. We don't know which was the case here.
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here's the thing though, I wanna know what OTC sleep med. Unisom? You'd have to down a bulk container if your ledger's size to kill ya. Not some general target shelf bottle of Unisom. Besides, what's in unisom and a couple other OTC sleep meds is actually an antihistamine that doubles as useful agent in helping wind down and fall asleep at night.
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I've heard that most sleeping pills are time-released to avoid the possible OD. (Not sure how true that is)
 
I watched part of an interview of him about a month ago. He looked in pretty bad shape...fidgeting, nervous, unrested, and he had lost a lot of hair. When I saw it, my first impression was that of someone suffering from withdrawal. I don't know if it's a coincidence that he played a heroin addict in a 2006 movie.

In any case, RIP. It's sad that it ended for him this way.
 
It's just amazing how many celebrities just "can't deal" with their own lives... I mean seriously, they have everything they want, they do anything they want, they don't get in trouble for anything... Almost like children, you know? And yet they find new and creative ways to hurt themselves, or plain screw their lives up (Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, etc, etc, etc, etc)

I guess if you have nothing to work hard for, it's not worth living? It just doesn't make sense. It's sad how incredibly unhappy some of these celebrities are...

EDIT: CNN said that some other young Hollywood actor died in the last two weeks, who else was that? Wait, found it, Brad Renfro.
 
Hollywood's got a serious problem with making young people millionaires overnight and surrounding them with temptations like sex, alcohol and drugs without the proper support structures to help them deal with it. Unfortunately, Heath will not be the last one to die an early and tragic death. RIP
 
Originally posted by: JC86
Hollywood's got a serious problem with making young people millionaires overnight and surrounding them with temptations like sex, alcohol and drugs without the proper support structures to help them deal with it. Unfortunately, Heath will not be the last one to die an early and tragic death. RIP
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whatever happened to personal responsibility?
 
FWIW - Heath's work was done on The Dark Knight. He had completed his portion.

Hey folks, Harry here... There's a lot of rumors swirling around right now in regards to Heath and where his involvement with THE DARK KNIGHT was. I got it confirmed from a source involved in Post-Production on THE DARK KNIGHT. Heath's post work was complete. He had indeed finished it, as to not interfere with the production of the film he was doing with Gilliam. We're now working to find out what's going to happen there. The last known photo of Heath was as a clown in that film. Will Terry re-cast? What will happen? We'll try to find out for all of you. But there will be no-dubbing on Heath in THE DARK KNIGHT - his performance was finished.

Harry
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