health care reform- what exactly are they proposing?

[chucky2]

I'm 30, 31 in Sept, so you can see exactly how my generation is turning out to be. Just go to the supermarket, mall, downtown Chicago, etc. My generation is fat. The younger generations are even fatter.

Building jungle gyms and walking trails will not help with that. It's a lifestyle choice - both conscious and unconscious - that kids, and their parents for the kids, make. And then they continue to make throughout their lives as they get older.

That's why I laugh (cynically) at the healthcare stats people through up when comparing US vs. EU in respect to obesity, high blood pressure, etc. Those stats are all F'ing meaningless because people in the EU don't make the same lifestyle choices people here in the US make.

I'm not even arguing for or against UHC...just the fact that people think they're going to change American lifestyle choices by building walking trails and jungle gyms. Soon as someone says that, they need to bow out of the discussion: They've lost any objectivity and rational thinking...can't trust anything else they say.

Chuck

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: chucky2
I'm 30, 31 in Sept, so you can see exactly how my generation is turning out to be. Just go to the supermarket, mall, downtown Chicago, etc. My generation is fat. The younger generations are even fatter.

Building jungle gyms and walking trails will not help with that. It's a lifestyle choice - both conscious and unconscious - that kids, and their parents for the kids, make. And then they continue to make throughout their lives as they get older.

That's why I laugh (cynically) at the healthcare stats people through up when comparing US vs. EU in respect to obesity, high blood pressure, etc. Those stats are all F'ing meaningless because people in the EU don't make the same lifestyle choices people here in the US make.

I'm not even arguing for or against UHC...just the fact that people think they're going to change American lifestyle choices by building walking trails and jungle gyms. Soon as someone says that, they need to bow out of the discussion: They've lost any objectivity and rational thinking...can't trust anything else they say.

Chuck

He did say, "Active Kids", so I think that constitutes "Lifestyle choice". They might change their mind, but being Active to start with does affect the decision later on.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: chucky2
I'm 30, 31 in Sept, so you can see exactly how my generation is turning out to be. Just go to the supermarket, mall, downtown Chicago, etc. My generation is fat. The younger generations are even fatter.

Building jungle gyms and walking trails will not help with that. It's a lifestyle choice - both conscious and unconscious - that kids, and their parents for the kids, make. And then they continue to make throughout their lives as they get older.

That's why I laugh (cynically) at the healthcare stats people through up when comparing US vs. EU in respect to obesity, high blood pressure, etc. Those stats are all F'ing meaningless because people in the EU don't make the same lifestyle choices people here in the US make.

I'm not even arguing for or against UHC...just the fact that people think they're going to change American lifestyle choices by building walking trails and jungle gyms. Soon as someone says that, they need to bow out of the discussion: They've lost any objectivity and rational thinking...can't trust anything else they say.

Chuck

Planet Fitness is having a $99 a year sale. Be proactive, don't wait for those Jungle Gyms and Walking Trails. you could save the future generation of taxpayers a lot of money not to mention improve the quality of your life.

 

[chucky2]

I used to be a long distance runner in high school and JuCo, so I'm not stranger to exercise - senior year of high school I was in outstanding shape (like, got lost in the boonies running one day, when I finally went back and drove where I ran, it was a little over 28 miles...and I could have turned around and did it again had I needed to).

Once I hit 22-23 though, I just didn't care any longer; plus my knees were shot. Yes, I knew that eating bad was bad. Yes, I knew how to do other forms of exercise. Yes, I even had exercise trails, a lake to swim in, etc.

Did I do any of that? Nope!

And here I sit today, a fat @ss by choice. And when I want to stop being a fat @ss, I'll eat better, and go on my "walking trails" (here in the 'Not CA or East Coast so we're not super duper Awesome like them Midwest', we calls these "sidewalks") and get some exercise.

I just cannot make this any simpler for you to grasp:

THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE FAT AND LAZY, WILL CONTINUE TO BE FAT AND LAZY AFTER WE SPEND A TRILLION DOLLARS OF MONEY WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE.

WHY?

Because they want to, that's why.

/Thread.

Chuck

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: chucky2
I used to be a long distance runner in high school and JuCo, so I'm not stranger to exercise - senior year of high school I was in outstanding shape (like, got lost in the boonies running one day, when I finally went back and drove where I ran, it was a little over 28 miles...and I could have turned around and did it again had I needed to).

Once I hit 22-23 though, I just didn't care any longer; plus my knees were shot. Yes, I knew that eating bad was bad. Yes, I knew how to do other forms of exercise. Yes, I even had exercise trails, a lake to swim in, etc.

Did I do any of that? Nope!

And here I sit today, a fat @ss by choice. And when I want to stop being a fat @ss, I'll eat better, and go on my "walking trails" (here in the 'Not CA or East Coast so we're not super duper Awesome like them Midwest', we calls these "sidewalks") and get some exercise.

I just cannot make this any simpler for you to grasp:

THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE FAT AND LAZY, WILL CONTINUE TO BE FAT AND LAZY AFTER WE SPEND A TRILLION DOLLARS OF MONEY WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE.

WHY?

Because they want to, that's why.

/Thread.

Chuck

Lay off the roids man. You are not Everybody.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: chucky2
I used to be a long distance runner in high school and JuCo, so I'm not stranger to exercise - senior year of high school I was in outstanding shape (like, got lost in the boonies running one day, when I finally went back and drove where I ran, it was a little over 28 miles...and I could have turned around and did it again had I needed to).

Once I hit 22-23 though, I just didn't care any longer; plus my knees were shot. Yes, I knew that eating bad was bad. Yes, I knew how to do other forms of exercise. Yes, I even had exercise trails, a lake to swim in, etc.

Did I do any of that? Nope!

And here I sit today, a fat @ss by choice. And when I want to stop being a fat @ss, I'll eat better, and go on my "walking trails" (here in the 'Not CA or East Coast so we're not super duper Awesome like them Midwest', we calls these "sidewalks") and get some exercise.

I just cannot make this any simpler for you to grasp:

THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE FAT AND LAZY, WILL CONTINUE TO BE FAT AND LAZY AFTER WE SPEND A TRILLION DOLLARS OF MONEY WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE.

WHY?

Because they want to, that's why.

/Thread.

Chuck

you just don't get it, do you?

hopefully, one of these days, you'll realize that making it easy to be healthy goes a long way in changing attitude so that people will make the choice to be healthy rather than lazyass american stereotypes.

it's like the ghetto lifestyle. do you think ghetto people would have been ghetto is the lifestlye they grew up seeing was different and useful to society?

you gotta change the culture and it has to start somewhere. and like i said before, a small change in society makes a huge impact overall.

 

[vi edit]

you just don't get it, do you?

hopefully, one of these days, you'll realize that making it easy to be healthy goes a long way in changing attitude so that people will make the choice to be healthy rather than lazyass american stereotypes.

it's like the ghetto lifestyle. do you think ghetto people would have been ghetto is the lifestlye they grew up seeing was different and useful to society?

you gotta change the culture and it has to start somewhere. and like i said before, a small change in society makes a huge impact overall.

The government could give out free treadmills and make memberships to gyms tax deductible...if not free and it won't solve a thing.

People have to *want* to be healthy and take the initiative to do so. Free handouts and access to facilities to do so aren't enough. The only way that "want" is going to be there is if there are major financial incentives to do so. Dangling the carrot of a happy, long life isn't good enough.

 

[quest55720]

Originally posted by: vi edit

you just don't get it, do you?

hopefully, one of these days, you'll realize that making it easy to be healthy goes a long way in changing attitude so that people will make the choice to be healthy rather than lazyass american stereotypes.

it's like the ghetto lifestyle. do you think ghetto people would have been ghetto is the lifestlye they grew up seeing was different and useful to society?

you gotta change the culture and it has to start somewhere. and like i said before, a small change in society makes a huge impact overall.

The government could give out free treadmills and make memberships to gyms tax deductible...if not free and it won't solve a thing.

People have to *want* to be healthy and take the initiative to do so. Free handouts and access to facilities to do so aren't enough. The only way that "want" is going to be there is if there are major financial incentives to do so. Dangling the carrot of a happy, long life isn't good enough.

I agree that is what is missing from Obama-care. Major financial incentives to be in decent shape and be non tobacco user. That is going to be the best way to get costs down is to get people to lead healthier lifestyles. That is how companies like safeway have kept costs flat for the last 3 years. All I see in Obama-care is sky rocketing costs there is nothing in there to reduce costs.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: chucky2
That is all well and good, but that's not what they're saying to the American public - in fact, they're saying anything but that.

Why?

Because the American public would give a big FU to whoever is going to tell them they're going to raise their food prices up double, triple, quadruple, whatever it'll be so they have organic food (it's only somewhat more now because of the low % of people that buy organic...what happens when it's government pushed to be All/Most? Supply and demand....prices will shoot way up).

Because the American public is not going to change their eating and exercise behaviors because Uncle Sam (with my tax money btw) put in a walking trail 4 miles from their house. Guess what!!!!! There's a sidewalk 10 feet from their house. We all know that if you're a fat @ss, the walking trail 4 miles away is going to be used exactly as the sidewalk 10 feet away: Zero.

Because the American public is not going to rush to the Dr. amid their busy/"busy" schedules so they can tell the Dr. that nothing's wrong with them, and hear from the Dr. things they already know (i.e. you're fat, your diet sucks, you don't exercise, etc).

WAKE UP!!!!

You want to make a stand?? Fine:

Mandate that all schools will have only organic food, zero high sugar beverages allowed (no, Mommy let me bring Pepsi to school BS), and that the kids will have a minimum of 1.5 hours of active gym per day - no excuses. Where to find the time: Cut out the BS taught in the other classes. American students don't need to be learning about 15th century Europe, we've got 20th and 21st century America to worry about. The don't need to learn music or painting...they can do that BS at home on their own time.

Here's what's not Fine:

Spending my tax dollars on phew phew sh1t that is a complete and utter waste of time.

Chuck

? huh? wtf makes you think that this is "phew phew (i think you mean "frou frou") shit"? you seriously don't realize how much diet impacts health? you don't realize the tremendous difference organic food has in your health vs genetically modified foods and other foods with high fructose corn syrup vs sugar?

hfcs doesn't metabolize the same way sugar does in your body. genetically modified foods don't have any nutritional value. it leads to a society of unhealthy, pre-conditioned, uninsurable people to lead to MORE money spent on "health" care.

if i've said it once, i've said it a million times... health is what the government needs to focus on in order to lower costs of health care. if that happens, allowing sick care for everyone won't cost that much because there will be less people getting sick needing to see medical doctors.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: vi edit

you just don't get it, do you?

hopefully, one of these days, you'll realize that making it easy to be healthy goes a long way in changing attitude so that people will make the choice to be healthy rather than lazyass american stereotypes.

it's like the ghetto lifestyle. do you think ghetto people would have been ghetto is the lifestlye they grew up seeing was different and useful to society?

you gotta change the culture and it has to start somewhere. and like i said before, a small change in society makes a huge impact overall.

The government could give out free treadmills and make memberships to gyms tax deductible...if not free and it won't solve a thing.

People have to *want* to be healthy and take the initiative to do so. Free handouts and access to facilities to do so aren't enough. The only way that "want" is going to be there is if there are major financial incentives to do so. Dangling the carrot of a happy, long life isn't good enough.

it won't do anything because there still isn't a culture of health. it hasn't become fashionable to be healthy yet. being healthy isn't the new ipod or going green or the new networking website, yet... but that's what this administration is trying to do. they're trying to make it desirable to sweat, eat healthy, quit smoking, and live healthy. paying less taxes if you're healthy is one way of doing it.

 

[quest55720]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: vi edit

you just don't get it, do you?

hopefully, one of these days, you'll realize that making it easy to be healthy goes a long way in changing attitude so that people will make the choice to be healthy rather than lazyass american stereotypes.

it's like the ghetto lifestyle. do you think ghetto people would have been ghetto is the lifestlye they grew up seeing was different and useful to society?

you gotta change the culture and it has to start somewhere. and like i said before, a small change in society makes a huge impact overall.

The government could give out free treadmills and make memberships to gyms tax deductible...if not free and it won't solve a thing.

People have to *want* to be healthy and take the initiative to do so. Free handouts and access to facilities to do so aren't enough. The only way that "want" is going to be there is if there are major financial incentives to do so. Dangling the carrot of a happy, long life isn't good enough.

it won't do anything because there still isn't a culture of health. it hasn't become fashionable to be healthy yet. being healthy isn't the new ipod or going green or the new networking website, yet... but that's what this administration is trying to do. they're trying to make it desirable to sweat, eat healthy, quit smoking, and live healthy. paying less taxes if you're healthy is one way of doing it.

I just saw a great interview with a senator who is a Doctor don't remember the name. It was on Gretta tonight on fox news. He talked about what was missing in the bills the incentives to be healthy. I am glad at least 1 person in DC gets it. As sad as it sounds but people need financial incentives to be more healthy.

 

[chucky2]

@eits: Pray tell me this:

There is probably a sidewalk out in front of every persons house in suburban America. In that same suburban America, there are 10s of Millions of people fat, sitting around every night.

After we spend Billions (that we borrow from the Chinese or just print out of thin air) on "walking trails"...

...what malfunctioning brain cell in your empty cranium thinks those same 10's of Millions that sit inside watcing WWE every night, eating chips and slogging down cheap beer, are going to go, 'OMG, The Obamasiah and Eits have delivered to us Walking Trails, only 12 miles away!!! We're going to go walking instead of watching Macho Man Randy Savage fly through the air into Rick Flair!!!! Quick Honey, waddle on over to the table, get the Camaro keys, and we'll smog on over to the Walking Trail!!!'

Now, back to Reality Eits!

People already can eat correctly, and stay in shape. They don't need any help from the Fed. (which is us, since we that actually pay taxes is what funds the Fed.) to do so. They absolutely know what they need to do...they just choose not to do it. There's plenty of people in Somalia skinny....they don't have Walking Trails and jungle gyms...so clearly there are other, cheaper, ways of people losing weight - like, eating right, and exercising. Until people choose to lose weight though, they won't.

No matter how much $$$,$$$,$$$,$$$ you and your Messiah want to spend trying to convince people not to eat the 12-pc of fried chicken, by themself, 2-3 times of week, at 8 PM every night, you will never get them in any significant number to stop.

Chuck

P.S. I think you read my school thoughts wrong...I was advocating exercise and proper eating for K-12, since that's where you're going to have the best chance of making a dent in our obesity problem. Of course, when they get home and play video games all day, and eat the sh1tty food their parents have decided to slop on the table, there'll be another step or two back for the step forward, but hey, at the Messiah and you can blow some money on something else, Right?!

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: vi edit

you just don't get it, do you?

hopefully, one of these days, you'll realize that making it easy to be healthy goes a long way in changing attitude so that people will make the choice to be healthy rather than lazyass american stereotypes.

it's like the ghetto lifestyle. do you think ghetto people would have been ghetto is the lifestlye they grew up seeing was different and useful to society?

you gotta change the culture and it has to start somewhere. and like i said before, a small change in society makes a huge impact overall.

The government could give out free treadmills and make memberships to gyms tax deductible...if not free and it won't solve a thing.

People have to *want* to be healthy and take the initiative to do so. Free handouts and access to facilities to do so aren't enough. The only way that "want" is going to be there is if there are major financial incentives to do so. Dangling the carrot of a happy, long life isn't good enough.

it won't do anything because there still isn't a culture of health. it hasn't become fashionable to be healthy yet. being healthy isn't the new ipod or going green or the new networking website, yet... but that's what this administration is trying to do. they're trying to make it desirable to sweat, eat healthy, quit smoking, and live healthy. paying less taxes if you're healthy is one way of doing it.

:roll:

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: vi edit

you just don't get it, do you?

hopefully, one of these days, you'll realize that making it easy to be healthy goes a long way in changing attitude so that people will make the choice to be healthy rather than lazyass american stereotypes.

it's like the ghetto lifestyle. do you think ghetto people would have been ghetto is the lifestlye they grew up seeing was different and useful to society?

you gotta change the culture and it has to start somewhere. and like i said before, a small change in society makes a huge impact overall.

The government could give out free treadmills and make memberships to gyms tax deductible...if not free and it won't solve a thing.

People have to *want* to be healthy and take the initiative to do so. Free handouts and access to facilities to do so aren't enough. The only way that "want" is going to be there is if there are major financial incentives to do so. Dangling the carrot of a happy, long life isn't good enough.

it won't do anything because there still isn't a culture of health. it hasn't become fashionable to be healthy yet. being healthy isn't the new ipod or going green or the new networking website, yet... but that's what this administration is trying to do. they're trying to make it desirable to sweat, eat healthy, quit smoking, and live healthy. paying less taxes if you're healthy is one way of doing it.

:roll:

?? why are you rolling your eyes at that? i don't get it.

 

[SammyJr]

Originally posted by: chucky2
@eits: Pray tell me this:

There is probably a sidewalk out in front of every persons house in suburban America. In that same suburban America, there are 10s of Millions of people fat, sitting around every night.

After we spend Billions (that we borrow from the Chinese or just print out of thin air) on "walking trails"...

...what malfunctioning brain cell in your empty cranium thinks those same 10's of Millions that sit inside watcing WWE every night, eating chips and slogging down cheap beer, are going to go, 'OMG, The Obamasiah and Eits have delivered to us Walking Trails, only 12 miles away!!! We're going to go walking instead of watching Macho Man Randy Savage fly through the air into Rick Flair!!!! Quick Honey, waddle on over to the table, get the Camaro keys, and we'll smog on over to the Walking Trail!!!'

Now, back to Reality Eits!

People already can eat correctly, and stay in shape. They don't need any help from the Fed. (which is us, since we that actually pay taxes is what funds the Fed.) to do so. They absolutely know what they need to do...they just choose not to do it. There's plenty of people in Somalia skinny....they don't have Walking Trails and jungle gyms...so clearly there are other, cheaper, ways of people losing weight - like, eating right, and exercising. Until people choose to lose weight though, they won't.

No matter how much $$$,$$$,$$$,$$$ you and your Messiah want to spend trying to convince people not to eat the 12-pc of fried chicken, by themself, 2-3 times of week, at 8 PM every night, you will never get them in any significant number to stop.

Chuck

P.S. I think you read my school thoughts wrong...I was advocating exercise and proper eating for K-12, since that's where you're going to have the best chance of making a dent in our obesity problem. Of course, when they get home and play video games all day, and eat the sh1tty food their parents have decided to slop on the table, there'll be another step or two back for the step forward, but hey, at the Messiah and you can blow some money on something else, Right?!

You make some very valid points, but referring to Obama as the "Messiah" makes you sound like a "currently masturbating to a picture of Palin" tool.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: vi edit

you just don't get it, do you?

hopefully, one of these days, you'll realize that making it easy to be healthy goes a long way in changing attitude so that people will make the choice to be healthy rather than lazyass american stereotypes.

it's like the ghetto lifestyle. do you think ghetto people would have been ghetto is the lifestlye they grew up seeing was different and useful to society?

you gotta change the culture and it has to start somewhere. and like i said before, a small change in society makes a huge impact overall.

The government could give out free treadmills and make memberships to gyms tax deductible...if not free and it won't solve a thing.

People have to *want* to be healthy and take the initiative to do so. Free handouts and access to facilities to do so aren't enough. The only way that "want" is going to be there is if there are major financial incentives to do so. Dangling the carrot of a happy, long life isn't good enough.

it won't do anything because there still isn't a culture of health. it hasn't become fashionable to be healthy yet. being healthy isn't the new ipod or going green or the new networking website, yet... but that's what this administration is trying to do. they're trying to make it desirable to sweat, eat healthy, quit smoking, and live healthy. paying less taxes if you're healthy is one way of doing it.

:roll:

?? why are you rolling your eyes at that? i don't get it.

Because you're clueless? First of all, the incentive for health is everywhere. Or haven't you noticed the multi-billion dollar fitness and health industries? Second, you can't force people to be healthy any more than you can force them to have common sense as you clearly demonstrate.

But then again, you're the fool that said something along the lines of "Government should control that, because they're smarter and know better than us." So it doesn't surprise me that you think the government has magical powers of persuasion.

 

[chucky2]

Referring to Obama as The Messiah, or, The Obamassiah, etc comes from two parts:

1.) The total slurping attitude ot the Obamanuts on anything and everything Obama says, regardless of the degree Obama is World Class Used Car Salesman'ing it to them. Truly there are many people here, and throughout the world, that are in rapture with him...even though he's just another politician.

2.) Simply using the same logic applied to the same people that were frothing at the mouth over Bush, going BDS, 'Bush&Co', etc. Where despite not agreeing with everything Bush said/did, if you agreed with any of it vs. the left, you were labeled any number of things.

Anyways, I (and every other fat American) know I'm right on this, and Eits is living in a Messiah induced pipe dream, but that's OK! This is America, it's allowed.....

Chuck

 

[SammyJr]

Originally posted by: chucky2
Referring to Obama as The Messiah, or, The Obamassiah, etc comes from two parts:

1.) The total slurping attitude ot the Obamanuts on anything and everything Obama says, regardless of the degree Obama is World Class Used Car Salesman'ing it to them. Truly there are many people here, and throughout the world, that are in rapture with him...even though he's just another politician.

2.) Simply using the same logic applied to the same people that were frothing at the mouth over Bush, going BDS, 'Bush&Co', etc. Where despite not agreeing with everything Bush said/did, if you agreed with any of it vs. the left, you were labeled any number of things.

Anyways, I (and every other fat American) know I'm right on this, and Eits is living in a Messiah induced pipe dream, but that's OK! This is America, it's allowed.....

Chuck

1. For the nickname Messiah to work, support for Obama would have to be on the level of "Yer either with us or again us." and its nowhere near that. A lot of liberals and liberal groups are displeased with him in that he's not progressive enough or that he's not being persuasive enough with the Blue Dogs. If a health plan passes without an immediate public option, Obama's approval will tank.

2. Maybe I've missed it, but eits is only supporting one aspect of Obama's policies. I haven't seen him respond at all to any of the other issues. Contrast to a lot of Bush supporters where everything Bush wanted from abstinence education to War to tax cuts for the rich to the Prescription Drug plan was pure gold. These same ex-Bush supporters are now universally opposed to anything Obama does. I'll bet some of them have taken to corking their ass because they don't want to shit like no stinkin' Democrat.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: chuncky
Referring to Obama as The Messiah, or, The Obamassiah, etc comes from two parts:

1.) Rush Limbaugh.

2.) Sean Hannity
Anyways, I (and every other fat American) know I'm right on this, and Eits is living in a Messiah induced pipe dream, but that's OK! This is America, it's allowed.....

Chunck

:shocked:

 

[chucky2]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: chuncky
Referring to Obama as The Messiah, or, The Obamassiah, etc comes from two parts:

1.) Rush Limbaugh.

2.) Sean Hannity
Anyways, I (and every other fat American) know I'm right on this, and Eits is living in a Messiah induced pipe dream, but that's OK! This is America, it's allowed.....

Chunck

:shocked:

I like the name change, nice touch....the rest, I don't nor never have listened to them. Can't stand talk radio mainly, I like music when I drive.

So.....you Fail..... :thumbsdown:

Chuck

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: vi edit

you just don't get it, do you?

hopefully, one of these days, you'll realize that making it easy to be healthy goes a long way in changing attitude so that people will make the choice to be healthy rather than lazyass american stereotypes.

it's like the ghetto lifestyle. do you think ghetto people would have been ghetto is the lifestlye they grew up seeing was different and useful to society?

you gotta change the culture and it has to start somewhere. and like i said before, a small change in society makes a huge impact overall.

The government could give out free treadmills and make memberships to gyms tax deductible...if not free and it won't solve a thing.

People have to *want* to be healthy and take the initiative to do so. Free handouts and access to facilities to do so aren't enough. The only way that "want" is going to be there is if there are major financial incentives to do so. Dangling the carrot of a happy, long life isn't good enough.

it won't do anything because there still isn't a culture of health. it hasn't become fashionable to be healthy yet. being healthy isn't the new ipod or going green or the new networking website, yet... but that's what this administration is trying to do. they're trying to make it desirable to sweat, eat healthy, quit smoking, and live healthy. paying less taxes if you're healthy is one way of doing it.

:roll:

?? why are you rolling your eyes at that? i don't get it.

Because you're clueless? First of all, the incentive for health is everywhere. Or haven't you noticed the multi-billion dollar fitness and health industries? Second, you can't force people to be healthy any more than you can force them to have common sense as you clearly demonstrate.

But then again, you're the fool that said something along the lines of "Government should control that, because they're smarter and know better than us." So it doesn't surprise me that you think the government has magical powers of persuasion.

lol. way to be the most ignorant person in the forums.

 

[chucky2]

Originally posted by: SammyJr

1. For the nickname Messiah to work, support for Obama would have to be on the level of "Yer either with us or again us." and its nowhere near that. A lot of liberals and liberal groups are displeased with him in that he's not progressive enough or that he's not being persuasive enough with the Blue Dogs. If a health plan passes without an immediate public option, Obama's approval will tank.

No, the Messiah nick's work fine because there are simply so many drinking the koolaid he p1sses out, and loving the taste of it...regardless of the differing flavors. You only have to go back through the threads around here around election time to witness the Obamanuts, their posts are right there to see.

2. Maybe I've missed it, but eits is only supporting one aspect of Obama's policies. I haven't seen him respond at all to any of the other issues. Contrast to a lot of Bush supporters where everything Bush wanted from abstinence education to War to tax cuts for the rich to the Prescription Drug plan was pure gold. These same ex-Bush supporters are now universally opposed to anything Obama does. I'll bet some of them have taken to corking their ass because they don't want to shit like no stinkin' Democrat.

If you've read enough P&N threads, and seen enough Eits comments, you'll know he's an Obamanut. Now, to be fair, he's not a jpeyton or a Mooner, or a Koolaid234, or a Macro...but he's a koolaid drinker one and the same. He's proved it himself in this thread by this line right here:

"being healthy isn't the new ipod or going green or the new networking website, yet... but that's what this administration is trying to do. they're trying to make it desirable to sweat, eat healthy, quit smoking, and live healthy. paying less taxes if you're healthy is one way of doing it. "

He actually believes this rather than the truth: They're p1ssing away money they took from us on sh1t that won't ever work - which they know - so they can dole out more pet project money to buy more votes. Period. Eits is either totally F'ing stupid, or, he knows this. If he knows this, and still advocates this, he's a Obamanut. Wihich one, who knows? Does it matter?

Chuck

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: chuncky
Referring to Obama as The Messiah, or, The Obamassiah, etc comes from two parts:

1.) Rush Limbaugh.

2.) Sean Hannity
Anyways, I (and every other fat American) know I'm right on this, and Eits is living in a Messiah induced pipe dream, but that's OK! This is America, it's allowed.....

Chunck

:shocked:

I like the name change, nice touch....the rest, I don't nor never have listened to them. Can't stand talk radio mainly, I like music when I drive.

So.....you Fail..... :thumbsdown:

Chuck

No you got it from the other tree swingers here who got it from those two.

BTW I changed the name to protect the innocent..so you wouldn't be credited with posting that.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: SammyJr

1. For the nickname Messiah to work, support for Obama would have to be on the level of "Yer either with us or again us." and its nowhere near that. A lot of liberals and liberal groups are displeased with him in that he's not progressive enough or that he's not being persuasive enough with the Blue Dogs. If a health plan passes without an immediate public option, Obama's approval will tank.

No, the Messiah nick's work fine because there are simply so many drinking the koolaid he p1sses out, and loving the taste of it...regardless of the differing flavors. You only have to go back through the threads around here around election time to witness the Obamanuts, their posts are right there to see.

2. Maybe I've missed it, but eits is only supporting one aspect of Obama's policies. I haven't seen him respond at all to any of the other issues. Contrast to a lot of Bush supporters where everything Bush wanted from abstinence education to War to tax cuts for the rich to the Prescription Drug plan was pure gold. These same ex-Bush supporters are now universally opposed to anything Obama does. I'll bet some of them have taken to corking their ass because they don't want to shit like no stinkin' Democrat.

If you've read enough P&N threads, and seen enough Eits comments, you'll know he's an Obamanut. Now, to be fair, he's not a jpeyton or a Mooner, or a Koolaid234, or a Macro...but he's a koolaid drinker one and the same. He's proved it himself in this thread by this line right here:

"being healthy isn't the new ipod or going green or the new networking website, yet... but that's what this administration is trying to do. they're trying to make it desirable to sweat, eat healthy, quit smoking, and live healthy. paying less taxes if you're healthy is one way of doing it. "

He actually believes this rather than the truth: They're p1ssing away money they took from us on sh1t that won't ever work - which they know - so they can dole out more pet project money to buy more votes. Period. Eits is either totally F'ing stupid, or, he knows this. If he knows this, and still advocates this, he's a Obamanut. Wihich one, who knows? Does it matter?

Chuck

What's with you guys with your fantasies about Obama sexing you up?

 

[chucky2]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
No you got it from the other tree swingers here who got it from those two.

BTW I changed the name to protect the innocent..so you wouldn't be credited with posting that.

Entirely probable, but, since it so fits them, the name still applies. Sorry, them's the breaks...

Chuck